Trackz wrote:
would luffy be able to survive inside the sun?
No but since when is heatblast near that heat?
i nan episode where ben is reverted to a baby, he shifts i to heatblast, gwen then baits him into going nova hot and vaporizing there enemy (and all of the water i nthe cave they were in)
The problem I have with Ben 10 is that it has plot holes and inconsitency although I like the show. XLR8 moved so fast that he could move the ball during the game without getting any notice.
Yet he gets constantly beat up by much slower opponents.. like Vilgax, Hex(he managed to hit him first) etc.
Manchester, back in Naruto vs Ben 10. You said Ben 10 beat Naruto. You mentioned XLR8’s speed as one of his reasons. I know Luffy’s reacttion managed to match Bellamy, soru users, etc... But are they close to speed of time slowing?
Also, to those Ben 10 supporters. If Ben 10000 is so strong, why have I seen him beat up by Kevin 11000 who doesn’t seem that fast or strong as Luffy? Can Kevin 11000 split island with his hand? He was beat up to pulp by Way Big that didn’t even split the ground. I know that I love lots of shows, cartoons, anime, manga that have plot holes.
Anyway, I can’t decide since Ben 10 seems inconsistense with their character power. (I beg them to keep consistense....
I think Manchester needs to calm down and bring more points like last time.
Trackz wrote:
i nan episode where ben is reverted to a baby, he shifts i to heatblast, gwen then baits him into going nova hot and vaporizing there enemy (and all of the water i nthe cave they were in)
Ace could do that.Its isn’t really heat close to the sun.
lionfranky wrote:
The problem I have with Ben 10 is that it has plot holes and inconsitency although I like the show. XLR8 moved so fast that he could move the ball during the game without getting any notice.
Yet he gets constantly beat up by much slower opponents.. like Vilgax, Hex(he managed to hit him first) etc.
All true.But I’ll go ahead an answer your next post.
lionfranky wrote:
Manchester, back in Naruto vs Ben 10. You said Ben 10 beat Naruto. You mentioned XLR8’s speed as one of his reasons. I know Luffy’s reacttion managed to match Bellamy, soru users, etc... But are they close to speed of time slowing?
They aren’t but remember Narutos durability is a farcry from Luffys.
lionfranky wrote:
Also, to those Ben 10 supporters. If Ben 10000 is so strong, why have I seen him beat up by Kevin 11000 who doesn’t seem that fast or strong as Luffy? Can Kevin 11000 split island with his hand? He was beat up to pulp by Way Big that didn’t even split the ground. I know that I love lots of shows, cartoons, anime, manga that have plot holes.
Anyway, I can’t decide since Ben 10 seems inconsistense with their character power. (I beg them to keep consistense....
I think Manchester needs to calm down and bring more points like last time.
Everything said in these points are true.Also don’t worry I’m not mad just haven’t been on in a few days.
Trackz wrote:
i nan episode where ben is reverted to a baby, he shifts i to heatblast, gwen then baits him into going nova hot and vaporizing there enemy (and all of the water i nthe cave they were in)
Ace could do that.Its isn’t really heat close to the sun.
nova heat...Im pretty sure thats above the suns temperature
I mean look at it. Ben 10 with master code could easily go toe to toe with Vilgax, Kevin and other monsters easily(Revenge) Yet later episode shows that Ben 10000 doesn’t seem to change to other aliens a lot during battle. I know this is kid show, but they need to strengthen each character to make it more realistic. Yes this one needs to be stronger. Seriously, Diamondhead cannot break normal steel bar? WTF? (At Ben 10 vs Negative 10, where he misses and shoots at steel bar.)
luffy goes second gear, mixes with third gear (Power and Super Speed with Giant Limbs that can destroy islands) then he pwns ben 10, simple as that. and yes he can mix gears although it puts a tremendous strain on his body
and if that doesnt work, luffy does same thing i just mentioned while hes nightmare luffy, and either kills ben or takes his hits until ben reverts back normal which is when he kills ben by breathing on him lol. unless hes ben 10,000 this isnt much of a fight. ben can be fast all he wants, but unless his fast aliens are strong (which i havent seen so far) this fight is over soon, unless they have white dwarf punch like the flash or sumthing (and they dont)
Trackz wrote:
i nan episode where ben is reverted to a baby, he shifts i to heatblast, gwen then baits him into going nova hot and vaporizing there enemy (and all of the water i nthe cave they were in)
Ace could do that.Its isn’t really heat close to the sun.
Sasukefan1 wrote:
and if that doesnt work, luffy does same thing i just mentioned while hes nightmare luffy, and either kills ben or takes his hits until ben reverts back normal which is when he kills ben by breathing on him lol. unless hes ben 10,000 this isnt much of a fight. ben can be fast all he wants, but unless his fast aliens are strong (which i havent seen so far) this fight is over soon, unless they have white dwarf punch like the flash or sumthing (and they dont)
Trackz wrote:
master code allows him to change at a seoncds notice, he cna use xlr8 (much faster than luffy) to propell himself then switch to fourarms who would alreayd be going at the velocity to throw the punch (ot into canonbolt)
We saw how good XLR8 was against Vilgax.Luffy is durable enough to take Four Arms attacks.He survived blows from Rob Lucci his equal.
Trackz wrote:
the mast4er code doesnt jsut mean he doesnt have to change back it means he can change between them extremely fast
I know I watch Ben 10.
ok I was just saying, xlr8 however wasnt going at his fastest now did he have the master code, with the master code yo usaw what easy work he made of both vilgax and kevin
Trackz wrote:
master code allows him to change at a seoncds notice, he cna use xlr8 (much faster than luffy) to propell himself then switch to fourarms who would alreayd be going at the velocity to throw the punch (ot into canonbolt)
We saw how good XLR8 was against Vilgax.Luffy is durable enough to take Four Arms attacks.He survived blows from Rob Lucci his equal.
Trackz wrote:
the mast4er code doesnt jsut mean he doesnt have to change back it means he can change between them extremely fast
I know I watch Ben 10.
ok I was just saying, xlr8 however wasnt going at his fastest now did he have the master code, with the master code yo usaw what easy work he made of both vilgax and kevin
Trackz wrote:
master code allows him to change at a seoncds notice, he cna use xlr8 (much faster than luffy) to propell himself then switch to fourarms who would alreayd be going at the velocity to throw the punch (ot into canonbolt)
We saw how good XLR8 was against Vilgax.Luffy is durable enough to take Four Arms attacks.He survived blows from Rob Lucci his equal.
Trackz wrote:
the mast4er code doesnt jsut mean he doesnt have to change back it means he can change between them extremely fast
I know I watch Ben 10.
ok I was just saying, xlr8 however wasnt going at his fastest now did he have the master code, with the master code yo usaw what easy work he made of both vilgax and kevin
also how strong is lucci?
lucci would rape ben so hard it’s not even funny
how strong is lucci
Lucci has the power of a god...ok now that last statement was obviously a lie, but seriously, Lucci is extremely powerful, he almost beat Luffy..almost..Lucci is a master practitioner of the fighting style Rokushiki, he can easily slice through ships with an air wave created from a simple kick, he has the ability of Soru which allows him to move at an extremely high speed(the principle of it is that Lucci kicks off the ground 10 times at an instant, giving him unmatched speed in combat) he has killed people by literally poking them(Shigan)...he has flicked fireballs and can transform into a partial leopard from, giving him further enhanced strength, he has an ability which allows him to shift his body structure, which can make him more agile, he is immune to almost all blunt attacks and could block most of Luffy’s blows with an ability called Tekkai(Iron Mass) which allows him to harden his muscles to the point where he cannot be harmed by any attack, he also used a variation that harmed Luffy whenever he tried attacking the Tekkai. When he was 15-18 years old he was hit in the back by 5 cannons and it did nothing. Lucci’s ultimate attack is the Rokuougan, which creates an explosion within the target’s body, causing massive amounts of internal damage. Luffy beat this guy...Ben doesn’t stand a chance...
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