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25 Nov 2007 02:57 pm
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Etain wrote: which will take this off-topic shocked.


Too late, now I have a bone to pick with Mr. Caserta.

Atresac wrote: (destroying the good name of Josh, just like that ass Cid)


Are you imply something... Josh?
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25 Nov 2007 02:58 pm
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Yes I do!

But not here... this topic is srs.

If you want to bitch and complain and moan and whine post it in off-topic.
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25 Nov 2007 03:00 pm
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Atresac wrote:
I just don’t think killing yourself over someone online is too common of a thing.


I don’t know if it would be possible to say one way or the other for sure. This incident happened to get publicized. If there are other incidents, do they receive the same coverage?

Also, when people come onto this or any other forum or chat room, talk about contemplating suicide, and don’t return...how do we know what happened to them?
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25 Nov 2007 03:01 pm
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Well honestly, a lot of guests might post here once and never come back. So while the possibility is there it’s definitely not the only possible reason.
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25 Nov 2007 03:16 pm
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As sad as it is... I’m willing to bet that somebody’s killed themselves after coming here to spill their guys... Some of the things I’ve seen before Bjarne made it against the rules to encourage suicide was horrible.
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I think people take the Internet too seriously sometimes, I really do, and I think people like this Megan need to get out more rather than stay on a website most of their day and get emotionally attached. It proves you have no life.

On the flipside, there needs to be less bullshit pressure from popular media about how people should be, especially since most of the beauty you’ve seen on T.V., in movies, and in magazines is all just a combination of artistic lighting, special effects, and our wondrous friend, Photoshop. Society is fucked up as it is, I have to say. I hate it.

And, contrary to what you may believe, I do get out, frequently.

I’m not really trying to rag on people who are on websites such as MySpace or Facebook, or here on moviecodec as well, and I’m certainly not attacking the websites, but rather trying to get a point across that the computer is becoming a scourge and we’re going down a path that’s leading us into emotional instability and degrading health.

I believe the mother that created that persona for the teenage girl was a sick woman. Sick. And then she encourages suicide? As if the girl didn’t have her own problems, she just pushes the envelope. Some sort of action better be taken on her, for justice’s sake.

Yet, Megan, the girl who killed herself, needs to get a life if her “life” is on MySpace. I know that sounds degrading and cruel, but its the truth. People underestimate what a little neighborhood walk can do for you, granted, a walk in New York City could end up in Hell, but Missouri isn’t exactly ridden with that, as far as I know. So many people get so serious about MySpace that its ridiculous. A good friend of mine spends ALL his time on there, and its damaged more than one of his relationships. Not only that, he went from being an active baseball player to an emo that can’t get out of his home, except to go to work or get in a fight (part of that is his family’s past, but its not helping).

I think both sides are wrong, but I’m leaning more for the girl’s side on this one. Its one thing to have no life, but another to treat someone so horribly. Fuck that mom; fuck her up the fucking ass.
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25 Nov 2007 03:51 pm
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Atresac wrote: Well honestly, a lot of guests might post here once and never come back. So while the possibility is there it’s definitely not the only possible reason.


Yep I know. There could be a multitude of reasons. That’s why I said it’s not possible to say one way or the other for sure.
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RageOverdose wrote: I think people take the Internet too seriously sometimes, I really do, and I think people like this Megan need to get out more rather than stay on a website most of their day and get emotionally attached. It proves you have no life.

On the flipside, there needs to be less bullshit pressure from popular media about how people should be, especially since most of the beauty you’ve seen on T.V., in movies, and in magazines is all just a combination of artistic lighting, special effects, and our wondrous friend, Photoshop. Society is fucked up as it is, I have to say. I hate it.

And, contrary to what you may believe, I do get out, frequently.

I’m not really trying to rag on people who are on websites such as MySpace or Facebook, or here on moviecodec as well, and I’m certainly not attacking the websites, but rather trying to get a point across that the computer is becoming a scourge and we’re going down a path that’s leading us into emotional instability and degrading health.

I believe the mother that created that persona for the teenage girl was a sick woman. Sick. And then she encourages suicide? As if the girl didn’t have her own problems, she just pushes the envelope. Some sort of action better be taken on her, for justice’s sake.

Yet, Megan, the girl who killed herself, needs to get a life if her “life” is on MySpace. I know that sounds degrading and cruel, but its the truth. People underestimate what a little neighborhood walk can do for you, granted, a walk in New York City could end up in Hell, but Missouri isn’t exactly ridden with that, as far as I know. So many people get so serious about MySpace that its ridiculous. A good friend of mine spends ALL his time on there, and its damaged more than one of his relationships. Not only that, he went from being an active baseball player to an emo that can’t get out of his home, except to go to work or get in a fight (part of that is his family’s past, but its not helping).

I think both sides are wrong, but I’m leaning more for the girl’s side on this one. Its one thing to have no life, but another to treat someone so horribly. Fuck that mom; fuck her up the fucking ass.


Although I would agree that it is important to establish a life outside the Internet, I also believe that bullying is bullying is bullying. No matter where it happens - the Internet or real life - the effect is the same.

If someone is saying horrible things about you, threatening you, or demeaning you there really is no way to not take that seriously. I’m giving my perspective from personal experience.

People have always bullied one another...but the Internet makes the bully feel like they have anonymity to hide behind.
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Etain wrote:
Although I would agree that it is important to establish a life outside the Internet, I also believe that bullying is bullying is bullying. No matter where it happens - the Internet or real life - the effect is the same.

If someone is saying horrible things about you, threatening you, or demeaning you there really is no way to not take that seriously. I’m giving my perspective from personal experience.

People have always bullied one another...but the Internet makes the bully feel like they have anonymity to hide behind.


I agree that bullying is bullying and its just wrong, especially when its going as far as to tell a person they are better off dead. Especially when that person is an insecure 13 year old girl, and I know that, at that age, many teenagers, male or female, or very insecure about themselves, and she apparently had a weight problem, which really doesn’t help. But that’s where the media thing came in, because Hollywood is shit.

But what I mean by taking seriously is, don’t go out using MySpace to get into love relationships. Not only was it not built for that reason, the popularity of the whole thing and the ease of false information there makes it too risky.

But, see, whenever someone is seemingly trying to call for help or something on the Internet, I don’t go off and harass them, like many of the members here have done to Skittles. I may get harsh, but I won’t go off and bully them. Sarcasm is like sex, you gotta be in the mood. Hell, just about anything needs to be done in the proper mood. There’s a time and place for everything, but I guess people on the Internet thinks everything is okay whenever. Emotions still flow through cyberspace.
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25 Nov 2007 04:20 pm
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RageOverdose wrote:
I agree that bullying is bullying and its just wrong, especially when its going as far as to tell a person they are better off dead. Especially when that person is an insecure 13 year old girl, and I know that, at that age, many teenagers, male or female, or very insecure about themselves, and she apparently had a weight problem, which really doesn’t help. But that’s where the media thing came in, because Hollywood is shit.


I agree. Women at any age are very insecure about their appearance...but this is especially true of teens.

But what I mean by taking seriously is, don’t go out using MySpace to get into love relationships. Not only was it not built for that reason, the popularity of the whole thing and the ease of false information there makes it too risky.


Yep I agree (looks at self and says “hypocrite” ). I misunderstood your initial point. Although I don’t think there’s anything wrong with happening to fall for someone over the internet, it’s not good to purposefully go looking for someone there. Especially for a teenager, and especially on MySpace.

But, see, whenever someone is seemingly trying to call for help or something on the Internet, I don’t go off and harass them, like many of the members here have done to Skittles. I may get harsh, but I won’t go off and bully them. Sarcasm is like sex, you gotta be in the mood. Hell, just about anything needs to be done in the proper mood. There’s a time and place for everything, but I guess people on the Internet thinks everything is okay whenever. Emotions still flow through cyberspace.


Yes I’ve never thought it was right what people do to others - mainly to females for some reason - when someone comes on here with a cry for help.

I also have a feeling that why the media latched onto this story is they seem to like to have reasons to vilify things like MySpace. These sorts of things probably happen in real life more often than we know (someone getting bullied so much that they take their life), but we never really seem to hear of it.
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RageOverdose wrote: But what I mean by taking seriously is, don’t go out using MySpace to get into love relationships. Not only was it not built for that reason, the popularity of the whole thing and the ease of false information there makes it too risky.


I somewhat agree... I don’t think people should get online looking for love. But it does happen by chance, and I’m not going to say that’s bad because the girl I love I met online... On this site.
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saw it on AC

shameful...
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Its easy to see what has happened here.

After reading the article, we have a insecure young girl, desperate for companionship and acceptance.

She was insecure because of her ADD and her weight problems which in the past would have seen her ridiculed and outcast from a majority of the social circles, further creating her dependence on friends.

So when she and her female friend had a falling out which ended her friendship, she would be isolated, sad and fell alone. This is why she took a shining to 'Josh'.

Josh was the encompassing being that held her dreams and aspirations alive and made her feel like she had someone to talk to, to share things with. Josh was her hope and for much part, her sanity.

he would have been one of the few people of her age in her school area that was not out to judge her, a fresh start if you will and she fell for him hard.

So after a appropriate period of time, after she had began to place all her hopes in josh, 'he' broke her, leaving her desperately alone, depressed, isolated and essentially gutted.

The one person whom she felt close to turned on her and then she had no one.

She did not place faith in her parents as they sought to caution her with her online infatuation with Josh which made them in her eyes, strangers because they did not understand her feelings and therefore, she isolated herself form her parents and more than likely felt oppressed by her own mother, especially when her mother chastised her about the use of her foul language in retort to Josh.

The use of Foul language when normally she would not use such a tone implies the high emotional state of the child and the mothers lack of understanding and compassion combined with the harassment form her last friend would have left her feeling like the last person on earth of whom nobody gave a damn about.

It was at this time, at the hight of her emotional depression the message that the world would be better of without her hits home with all to much truth, albeit, only in her eyes. So, upset and alone, she goes up to her last place of sanctuary and tries to rid the world of her existence because the world would truly be better of without her.

Dead inside, the chocking of breath of her lungs is a release of all the negativity and sorrow. Chances are she would have not struggled as she closes her eyes and waits for the pain to end, safe in knowing that she will be better of away from a world that does not love her and only seeks to make her unhappy. A final tear would be shed, not for the pain, but for the mixture of sorry and happiness that she, like many others in this situation, has found her escape, her final absolution.
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firewolf81 wrote: Its easy to see what has happened here.

After reading the article, we have a insecure young girl, desperate for companionship and acceptance.

She was insecure because of her ADD and her weight problems which in the past would have seen her ridiculed and outcast from a majority of the social circles, further creating her dependence on friends.

So when she and her female friend had a falling out which ended her friendship, she would be isolated, sad and fell alone. This is why she took a shining to 'Josh'.

Josh was the encompassing being that held her dreams and aspirations alive and made her feel like she had someone to talk to, to share things with. Josh was her hope and for much part, her sanity.

he would have been one of the few people of her age in her school area that was not out to judge her, a fresh start if you will and she fell for him hard.

So after a appropriate period of time, after she had began to place all her hopes in josh, 'he' broke her, leaving her desperately alone, depressed, isolated and essentially gutted.

The one person whom she felt close to turned on her and then she had no one.

She did not place faith in her parents as they sought to caution her with her online infatuation with Josh which made them in her eyes, strangers because they did not understand her feelings and therefore, she isolated herself form her parents and more than likely felt oppressed by her own mother, especially when her mother chastised her about the use of her foul language in retort to Josh.

The use of Foul language when normally she would not use such a tone implies the high emotional state of the child and the mothers lack of understanding and compassion combined with the harassment form her last friend would have left her feeling like the last person on earth of whom nobody gave a damn about.

It was at this time, at the hight of her emotional depression the message that the world would be better of without her hits home with all to much truth, albeit, only in her eyes. So, upset and alone, she goes up to her last place of sanctuary and tries to rid the world of her existence because the world would truly be better of without her.

Dead inside, the chocking of breath of her lungs is a release of all the negativity and sorrow. Chances are she would have not struggled as she closes her eyes and waits for the pain to end, safe in knowing that she will be better of away from a world that does not love her and only seeks to make her unhappy. A final tear would be shed, not for the pain, but for the mixture of sorry and happiness that she, like many others in this situation, has found her escape, her final absolution.


now I’m depressed... again
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firewolf81 wrote: Its easy to see what has happened here.

After reading the article, we have a insecure young girl, desperate for companionship and acceptance.

She was insecure because of her ADD and her weight problems which in the past would have seen her ridiculed and outcast from a majority of the social circles, further creating her dependence on friends.

So when she and her female friend had a falling out which ended her friendship, she would be isolated, sad and fell alone. This is why she took a shining to 'Josh'.

Josh was the encompassing being that held her dreams and aspirations alive and made her feel like she had someone to talk to, to share things with. Josh was her hope and for much part, her sanity.

he would have been one of the few people of her age in her school area that was not out to judge her, a fresh start if you will and she fell for him hard.

So after a appropriate period of time, after she had began to place all her hopes in josh, 'he' broke her, leaving her desperately alone, depressed, isolated and essentially gutted.

The one person whom she felt close to turned on her and then she had no one.

She did not place faith in her parents as they sought to caution her with her online infatuation with Josh which made them in her eyes, strangers because they did not understand her feelings and therefore, she isolated herself form her parents and more than likely felt oppressed by her own mother, especially when her mother chastised her about the use of her foul language in retort to Josh.

The use of Foul language when normally she would not use such a tone implies the high emotional state of the child and the mothers lack of understanding and compassion combined with the harassment form her last friend would have left her feeling like the last person on earth of whom nobody gave a damn about.

It was at this time, at the hight of her emotional depression the message that the world would be better of without her hits home with all to much truth, albeit, only in her eyes. So, upset and alone, she goes up to her last place of sanctuary and tries to rid the world of her existence because the world would truly be better of without her.

Dead inside, the chocking of breath of her lungs is a release of all the negativity and sorrow. Chances are she would have not struggled as she closes her eyes and waits for the pain to end, safe in knowing that she will be better of away from a world that does not love her and only seeks to make her unhappy. A final tear would be shed, not for the pain, but for the mixture of sorry and happiness that she, like many others in this situation, has found her escape, her final absolution.


now I’m depressed... again


Why?

Feel not sorry for the lost girl who has found solace in her own demise for she is free form the constraints of this existence we call life. She is free from her suffering and we should be happy that she is at peace.
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i think those parents should louse coustody of their own child for this,,,cause this is clearly a case of abuse,,,(bullying is abuse) whether ist done to your child or others and if a parent teaches that kind of thing to a child ,,,well its bad
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I don’t know, I guess it reminds of how close I would have been on her position and...

Ugh I can’t put in words how I feel, I’ve felt and I sure know will feel.

In a way I am happy because, as you say she has ended her misery but sad because it’s a pattern us teens and many adults too have to go through and it just won’t go away.

I mean, it saddens me because I know what went through her mind in her last moments, it just brings back so many memories.
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I mentioned something like this a long time ago...
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NEREVAR117 wrote: I mentioned something like this a long time ago...


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firewolf81 wrote: Its easy to see what has happened here.

After reading the article, we have a insecure young girl, desperate for companionship and acceptance.

She was insecure because of her ADD and her weight problems which in the past would have seen her ridiculed and outcast from a majority of the social circles, further creating her dependence on friends.

So when she and her female friend had a falling out which ended her friendship, she would be isolated, sad and fell alone. This is why she took a shining to 'Josh'.

Josh was the encompassing being that held her dreams and aspirations alive and made her feel like she had someone to talk to, to share things with. Josh was her hope and for much part, her sanity.

he would have been one of the few people of her age in her school area that was not out to judge her, a fresh start if you will and she fell for him hard.

So after a appropriate period of time, after she had began to place all her hopes in josh, 'he' broke her, leaving her desperately alone, depressed, isolated and essentially gutted.

The one person whom she felt close to turned on her and then she had no one.

She did not place faith in her parents as they sought to caution her with her online infatuation with Josh which made them in her eyes, strangers because they did not understand her feelings and therefore, she isolated herself form her parents and more than likely felt oppressed by her own mother, especially when her mother chastised her about the use of her foul language in retort to Josh.

The use of Foul language when normally she would not use such a tone implies the high emotional state of the child and the mothers lack of understanding and compassion combined with the harassment form her last friend would have left her feeling like the last person on earth of whom nobody gave a damn about.

It was at this time, at the hight of her emotional depression the message that the world would be better of without her hits home with all to much truth, albeit, only in her eyes. So, upset and alone, she goes up to her last place of sanctuary and tries to rid the world of her existence because the world would truly be better of without her.

Dead inside, the chocking of breath of her lungs is a release of all the negativity and sorrow. Chances are she would have not struggled as she closes her eyes and waits for the pain to end, safe in knowing that she will be better of away from a world that does not love her and only seeks to make her unhappy. A final tear would be shed, not for the pain, but for the mixture of sorry and happiness that she, like many others in this situation, has found her escape, her final absolution.


Thanks for making me feel like shit...
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