| 27 Nov 2007 11:12 pm |
The Clown Prince of Crime Rep: 20  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,792 OFFLINE | Now that I’m not to sure about.Its definately stronger than Roshis punch but no ones punches in DBZ have been shown to be capable of destroying planets.
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| 27 Nov 2007 11:17 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 12  Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,663 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
Now that I’m not to sure about.Its definately stronger than Roshis punch but no ones punches in DBZ have been shown to be capable of destroying planets.
yes there is no punch that split planets in the manga or anime but those punch is greater that full roshi.
kid goku killed drum in just 1 kick which is he drum is more powerfull than ten and roshi.
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| 28 Nov 2007 02:49 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 44  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 9,352 OFFLINE | yes there is no punch that split planets in the manga or anime but those punch is greater that full roshi.
kid goku killed drum in just 1 kick which is he his more powerfull than ten and roshi.
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But SSJ3 Goku below Roshi’s kamehameha is that correct MB coz SSJ3 Goku never destroy moon and even cant destroy planet coz he never show that...???
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| 28 Nov 2007 08:10 am |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 862 OFFLINE | Wait, is WW as strong as supes? Because if so, i dont think that 18 is stronger than her anymore, because i dont think 18 could destroy a planet with punches alone....
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| 28 Nov 2007 07:29 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1  Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 2,123 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
What are you talking about?If your talking about that event its been concluding as bad writing since Supes blows are capable of shaking earth even destroying it.
When Superman thought Batman was DS... This was right before Infinite Crisis, a littel before WW killed Maxwell Lord and this created a rift between the Earth’s greatest heroes...
Manchester Black wrote:
The point is she raced him 18 wouldn’t make it at all.
Nope, she’d almost WIN.
Manchester Black wrote:
So what makes you think 18 would have even come close to having a chance?
The fact that WW tried her hardest and the fact that Shenron couldn’t turn her human since she was too strong for a GOD.
Manchester Black wrote:
One its actually debatable because Supes can technically defeat him with heat vision.As for Kara she is stronger than her cousin.
Remember when MM gains resistance from the fire after doing it with that hell flames chick? He can also turn himself intangible. Which SG are you talking about, the Matrix one is stronger not Kara. That one villain THOUGHT she was stronger but that was only because Kara was enraged at the time and Kal still had mental blocks depowering him...
Manchester Black wrote:
One she isn’t faster.18 wouldn’t be able to race Flash at all.Second Smarter?We really need to learn our Wonder Woman history.More durable she needs to take blows from Supes.Also I greatly disagree with Seed if he thinks 18 can destroy earth with her fist.
One she isn’t and 18 could almost win against Flash or at least put up a better effort than WW. 18 retains the intelligence of Gero who is smarter than Bulma’s dad...WW IS smart, just not in their catergory. She’s nowhere near as smart as Bruce and he’s a frekain genius so yeah... If Supes makes them loves taps, she can take em... I don’t disagree, Master Roshi destroyed the moon with a pl of 50ish and that’s giving him a lot of credit. Earth’s mass is greater than the moon but not by that much meaing even someone with a pl of 500-1000 could do that to the Earth. Now imagine SSJ Goku with a pl of 15 million - his punching force is BY FAR stronger than Roshi’s attack... So if he could do it and 18 >>>>>>>>>> a normal SSJ, she could easily split the Earth with her fist...
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| 28 Nov 2007 08:35 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 14  Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,449 OFFLINE | oh dear God no your arguing 18 vs WW...whay are some people so pathetic
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| 29 Nov 2007 02:31 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 44  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 9,352 OFFLINE | One she isn’t and 18 could almost win against Flash or at least put up a better effort than WW. 18 retains the intelligence of Gero who is smarter than Bulma’s dad...WW IS smart, just not in their catergory. She’s nowhere near as smart as Bruce and he’s a frekain genius so yeah... If Supes makes them loves taps, she can take em... I don’t disagree, Master Roshi destroyed the moon with a pl of 50ish and that’s giving him a lot of credit. Earth’s mass is greater than the moon but not by that much meaing even someone with a pl of 500-1000 could do that to the Earth. Now imagine SSJ Goku with a pl of 15 million - his punching force is BY FAR stronger than Roshi’s attack... So if he could do it and 18 >>>>>>>>>> a normal SSJ, she could easily split the Earth with her fist...
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They will seek for proof... Superman fans will think that Master Roshi is stronger than SSJ3 Goku and 18.
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| 29 Nov 2007 08:16 am |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 862 OFFLINE | I vote for 18... still. And i was just searching for reasons ww would win.
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| 29 Nov 2007 03:00 pm |
The Clown Prince of Crime Rep: 20  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,792 OFFLINE | UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
When Superman thought Batman was DS... This was right before Infinite Crisis, a littel before WW killed Maxwell Lord and this created a rift between the Earth’s greatest heroes...
As I said before thats pure bad writing.
ULXR wrote:
Nope, she’d almost WIN.
Tell me what speed feats those oh wait SHE HAS NONE!
ULXR wrote:
The fact that WW tried her hardest and the fact that Shenron couldn’t turn her human since she was too strong for a GOD.
No because Shenron is a pussy.
ULXR wrote:
Remember when MM gains resistance from the fire after doing it with that hell flames chick? He can also turn himself intangible. Which SG are you talking about, the Matrix one is stronger not Kara. That one villain THOUGHT she was stronger but that was only because Kara was enraged at the time and Kal still had mental blocks depowering him...
Kara is said to be stronger than Supes mainly because she doesn’t have mental blocks.
ULXR wrote:
One she isn’t
Someone needs to take a trip to the WW respect thread.
ULXR wrote:
and 18 could almost win against Flash or at least put up a better effort than WW.
Hell no.18 has no feats to back it up.
ULXR wrote:
18 retains the intelligence of Gero who is smarter than Bulma’s dad...WW IS smart, just not in their catergory.
Your pulling this far out of your ass. This was never stated.
ULXR wrote:
She’s nowhere near as smart as Bruce and he’s a frekain genius so yeah... If Supes makes them loves taps, she can take em... I don’t disagree, Master Roshi destroyed the moon with a pl of 50ish and that’s giving him a lot of credit. Earth’s mass is greater than the moon but not by that much meaing even someone with a pl of 500-1000 could do that to the Earth. Now imagine SSJ Goku with a pl of 15 million - his punching force is BY FAR stronger than Roshi’s attack... So if he could do it and 18 >>>>>>>>>> a normal SSJ, she could easily split the Earth with her fist...
This is all a hell no.Strength is not a factor in DBZ as we discovered with Goku and 40 tons.
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| 30 Nov 2007 09:04 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 44  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 9,352 OFFLINE | This is all a hell no.Strength is not a factor in DBZ as we discovered with Goku and 40 tons.
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You mean Frieza with pl 530.000 cant destroy earth with one blow???
While SSJ 1 Goku only 15.000.000 and 18 is beyond that level... CANT DESTROY THE MOON AND EARTH???
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| 30 Nov 2007 09:05 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 44  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 9,352 OFFLINE | May I ask you something MB...???
Which is stronger 100.000 tons Hammer or 40 tons Nukes...???
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| 30 Nov 2007 09:06 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 44  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 9,352 OFFLINE | Hammer = Punch/Hit
Nukes = Blast/Destroy/Pulverize
For you to know...
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| 30 Nov 2007 02:47 pm |
The Clown Prince of Crime Rep: 20  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,792 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
You mean Frieza with pl 530.000 cant destroy earth with one blow???
While SSJ 1 Goku only 15.000.000 and 18 is beyond that level... CANT DESTROY THE MOON AND EARTH???
Now I see I have no reason to respond to you.
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| 01 Dec 2007 02:01 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 44  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 9,352 OFFLINE | Now I see I have no reason to respond to you.
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You still not answering my questions...
Which is stronger 100.000 tons of hammer or 40 tons nukes...???
The very reasonable why you dont want answer me coz you will seek for proof that Goku eradicate galaxies... Coz Goku will never do that even if necessary...
That is the reason why you say Goku DBZ only planet destroyer... SSJ1 to 3 only planet SSJ3 = Frieza
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| 01 Dec 2007 10:50 am |
The Clown Prince of Crime Rep: 20  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,792 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
You still not answering my questions...
Which is stronger 100.000 tons of hammer or 40 tons nukes...???
The nukes.
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
The very reasonable why you dont want answer me coz you will seek for proof that Goku eradicate galaxies... Coz Goku will never do that even if necessary...
That is the reason why you say Goku DBZ only planet destroyer... SSJ1 to 3 only planet SSJ3 = Frieza
No its just because any idiot can see no one in DBZ is a galaxy destroyer.As for the last part thats what you said I didn’t say it.
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| 01 Dec 2007 10:09 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1  Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 2,123 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
As I said before thats pure bad writing.
Yet entirely credible since all of DC is canon as you yourself stated long ago. That’s the downside of following such a huge timeline, some severely overpower chars whereas others seriously depower them. Shame this was right before IC... And WHO said to use only what Seagle and Schuster wrote? ME!
Manchester Black wrote:
Tell me what speed feats those oh wait SHE HAS NONE!
Umm she’s faster than SSJ Goku who’s faster than WW... Point said.
Manchester Black wrote:
No because Shenron is a pussy.
Yet he’s stronger than Kaio-Shin who would whoop WW’s ass.
Manchester Black wrote:
Kara is said to be stronger than Supes mainly because she doesn’t have mental blocks.
Which is my point...
Manchester Black wrote:
Someone needs to take a trip to the WW respect thread.
I have...not impressed...
Manchester Black wrote:
Hell no.18 has no feats to back it up.
She is HELL of a lot faster than SSJ Goku who’s WAY faster than Frieza who’s WAY faster than base Goku who’s WAY faster than Burta from the Ginyu Force who moves at light speed.
Manchester Black wrote:
Your pulling this far out of your ass. This was never stated.
Despite the fact that she and 17 were able to outsmart Gero?
Manchester Black wrote:
This is all a hell no.Strength is not a factor in DBZ as we discovered with Goku and 40 tons.
Come ON MB... This has gotta be the most bullshit comment I’ve EVER heard from you... Goku may not be as strong as Supes but he’s pretty close. Oh and he can hit a HELL of a lot harder than Superman can...
Here I posted stuff about this here and here
in my two jumbo posts...
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| 01 Dec 2007 10:44 pm |
The Clown Prince of Crime Rep: 20  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,792 OFFLINE | UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Yet entirely credible since all of DC is canon as you yourself stated long ago. That’s the downside of following such a huge timeline, some severely overpower chars whereas others seriously depower them. Shame this was right before IC... And WHO said to use only what Seagle and Schuster wrote? ME!
Actually since its a bad write it isn’t credible.If bad writes are credible Spiderman can beat Firelord.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Umm she’s faster than SSJ Goku who’s faster than WW... Point said.
Now prove Goku is faster.
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Yet he’s stronger than Kaio-Shin who would whoop WW’s ass.
Shenron has no fights in the whole series.He doesn’t know how to fight.Kaoishin beating Wonder Woman is almost laughable.
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I have...not impressed...
If you say this I don’t really think you’ve been there.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
She is HELL of a lot faster than SSJ Goku who’s WAY faster than Frieza who’s WAY faster than base Goku who’s WAY faster than Burta from the Ginyu Force who moves at light speed.
This all fails because as I said Burter CLAIMED he was faster than light but did we see any feats of speed?None.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Despite the fact that she and 17 were able to outsmart Gero?
All they did was trick him into thinking they were loyal then they caught him off guard.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Come ON MB... This has gotta be the most bullshit comment I’ve EVER heard from you... Goku may not be as strong as Supes but he’s pretty close. Oh and he can hit a HELL of a lot harder than Superman can...
Goku is nowhere near Supes strength.When he lifts things that are millions of tons okay.As for hitting harder,when has Gokus blows destroyed dimensions?
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Here I posted stuff about this here and here
in my two jumbo posts...
I’ve been there already.
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| 03 Dec 2007 08:43 am |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 862 OFFLINE | tear tear, ;(
I’m still ignored in any topic involving anime characters.
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| 04 Dec 2007 03:19 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 44  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 9,352 OFFLINE | No you dont...
40 tons nuke enough to pulverize the city of manhattan...
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| 04 Dec 2007 04:08 am |
Regular Rep: 1  Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 205 OFFLINE | What The Fuck you put 18 up agenst some one you say can beet Goku this is not fer some of you people just love to be assholes dont you
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