seed wrote:
so you guys means that ww woman is more powerfull than freeza?because android 18 is more powerfull than freeza and ssj goku from freeza saga.
android 18 punch is more powerfull than roshi maximum power,so tell me is this 18 is weakling?
you are right and also freiza could destroy a planet with a finger and he was in his first form and he done it with no effort imagin what android 18 could do if she wanted to destroy something like a planet she would do it millions of times better than freiza with no effort asswell.if freiza destroyed a planet with very little effort he could destroy half the solar system i think..
android 18 could take frieza’s death beam with no effort.imagin if frieza fully done a death beam in his last final form to destroy a planet he would destroy the planet and most of the solar system.
18 is probaly stronger than koola meaning she has bare power we have seen what koola could do so all im saying WW is not that strong because she has to block bullets because if touch her she dies a mortal death whiles someone like kid Goku could withstand a bullet and an axe to the head
cells kamehameha’s could destroy full solar systems...
Manchester Black wrote:
Now that I’m not to sure about.Its definately stronger than Roshis punch but no ones punches in DBZ have been shown to be capable of destroying planets.
super buu’s have been shown to shake the planet but they did not hurt vegitto.
broly could destroy galaxies within seconds so buu or someone like that could destroy bares
242 wrote:
super buu’s have been shown to shake the planet but they did not hurt vegitto.
broly could destroy galaxies within seconds so buu or someone like that could destroy bares
While I have already stated my opinion here; (unless ww is as strong as supes now, 18 wins) i would like to say that golden soil- i admire the Samurai Champloo pic.
--- I am a Servant of the Shadow, Minion of the Great Eye.
Sauron has wone the Master Chief vs Sauron debate.
Manchester Black wrote:
Actually since its a bad write it isn’t credible.If bad writes are credible Spiderman can beat Firelord.
Too bad that’s Marvel and doesn’t account for anything in DC, even crossovers...
Manchester Black wrote:
Now prove Goku is faster.
Because SSJ Goku is faster than base Goku who was WAY faster than Burta who moves at light speed.
Manchester Black wrote:
Shenron has no fights in the whole series.He doesn’t know how to fight.Kaoishin beating Wonder Woman is almost laughable.
I mean Shenron >>>> Kaioshin powerwise but w/e... I know Kaioshin CAN’T beat WW...he can beat WW, Kara, and Hawkgirl at the same time...
Manchester Black wrote:
If you say this I don’t really think you’ve been there.
Wanna bet? I have. Just not as impressive as Kara feats which don’t have a shit on Superman feats which are impressive but not spectaular.
And there’s the fact that I remember an issue of JLA I read recently...
The JLA nearly gets owned by the maniacal crazy ass god gone bad Z (an age old *few millennias super robot that ravaged MM’s world* created by a buncha punks) and all he does is invoke terror by “exploiting” their biggest fears so...
And you keep claiming this never happened but the JLA get OWNED. Just slaughtered by the Ancient League when they go to save Aquaman from Gammaneore. Hell Flash is too slow and gets his legs torn off, The Atom gets ripped apart, Supes gets beaten to death, MM gets burned to death, WW gets stabbed to death, Bats gets blown up and this pisses the fuck out of Green Lantern. He fights like a hero but the crazy ass Shaman guy tells him what to do, then he sacrifices himsefl and gets his heart ripped out...
Then there’s the Teen Titans...All 500 of them from other realities and verses assemble including many different people at the level of Superboy (who’s not too far behind Kal) and Wonder Girl to take down DR. LIGHT...
Manchester Black wrote:
This all fails because as I said Burter CLAIMED he was faster than light but did we see any feats of speed?None.
And it’s the truth. That is what I hate about guys from DC/Marvel against DBZ...if someone says something in a COMIC without proving it, you act as if God said it and it ISN’T a claim but whenever guys like Goku say stuff (who don’t lie btw) you’re like they “claimed” it...
Manchester Black wrote:
All they did was trick him into thinking they were loyal then they caught him off guard.
That’s not true, he wouldn’t have had that remote control in the first place... And if a guy like Gero could get tricked that easy... I mean they WERE in suspended animation the whole time yet they formulated a plan for 18 to distract Gero and 17 to own him...
Manchester Black wrote:
Goku is nowhere near Supes strength.When he lifts things that are millions of tons okay.As for hitting harder,when has Gokus blows destroyed dimensions?
You’re crazy if you believe this...Supes pulled the Earth with help from WW and MM? Sure. The same Supes, MM, and WW had trouble lifting a 10 ton tanker? Also true. So I dunno about this... 40 tons was during the afterlife and in base...he got INFINITLY times stronger since then... Even if we were to start Goku from that point, it’s safe to assume he could EASILY lift 6,250,000 tons in SSJ3 because if we started with him lifting 50 tons in base at that time... that would be SSJ=50X50=2,500, SS2=2,500X50=125,000, SSJ3=125,000X50=6,250,000...
Now he was able to lift that much in BASE at the end of Z.
New calculations:
SSJ=6,250,000X50=312,000,000, SSJ2=312,000,000X50=15,625,000,000, SSJ3=15,625,000,000X50=781,250,000,000
That’s freakin .78 of a TRILLION tons... That’s almost TWENTY times what Superman can lift.
Goku hasn’t aimed to destroy dimensions but he destroyed a being in one hit that was able to warp dimensions and time/space through power alone so...
Manchester Black wrote:
I’ve been there already.
Thought you didn’t go there? Anyhow you didn’t refute anything from there...
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Too bad that’s Marvel and doesn’t account for anything in DC, even crossovers...
This again huh(sorry if I sound like an ass I am having a bad day).Marvel and DC are what Comics therefore the same principles work.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Because SSJ Goku is faster than base Goku who was WAY faster than Burta who moves at light speed.
Burter came and said the following:“I AM BURTER AND I AM FASTER THAN LIGHT!!!“And thats it.Where are his feats of speed?Nowhere.Burter isn’t faster than light.
I mean Shenron >>>> Kaioshin powerwise but w/e... I know Kaioshin CAN’T beat WW...he can beat WW, Kara, and Hawkgirl at the same time...
I LOL at this hole sentence.Shenron isn’t shit.He can’t even turn an android to a human.Kaoishin is one of the weakest little fuckers on the planet.The fact that you think this shows signs of serious crack man.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Wanna bet? I have. Just not as impressive as Kara feats which don’t have a shit on Superman feats which are impressive but not spectaular.
And there’s the fact that I remember an issue of JLA I read recently...
The JLA nearly gets owned by the maniacal crazy ass god gone bad Z (an age old *few millennias super robot that ravaged MM’s world* created by a buncha punks) and all he does is invoke terror by “exploiting” their biggest fears so...
And you keep claiming this never happened but the JLA get OWNED. Just slaughtered by the Ancient League when they go to save Aquaman from Gammaneore. Hell Flash is too slow and gets his legs torn off, The Atom gets ripped apart, Supes gets beaten to death, MM gets burned to death, WW gets stabbed to death, Bats gets blown up and this pisses the fuck out of Green Lantern. He fights like a hero but the crazy ass Shaman guy tells him what to do, then he sacrifices himsefl and gets his heart ripped out...
Never heard of this issue.And guess what it makes about as much sense as your little theory Goku is the strongest in DBZ.Basically its another sign of a badwrite.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Then there’s the Teen Titans...All 500 of them from other realities and verses assemble including many different people at the level of Superboy (who’s not too far behind Kal) and Wonder Girl to take down DR. LIGHT...
Did you just say Superboy isn’t behind Kal?He is wayyyyy weaker than Kal.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
And it’s the truth. That is what I hate about guys from DC/Marvel against DBZ...if someone says something in a COMIC without proving it, you act as if God said it and it ISN’T a claim but whenever guys like Goku say stuff (who don’t lie btw) you’re like they “claimed” it...
Except Flash has feats that shows he is faster than light.Supes has feats that shows he is faster than light,and I don’t even need to continue.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
That’s not true, he wouldn’t have had that remote control in the first place... And if a guy like Gero could get tricked that easy... I mean they WERE in suspended animation the whole time yet they formulated a plan for 18 to distract Gero and 17 to own him...
Lets see.18 woke up and say the controller she acted like a typical android.So did 17,he was fooled and killed.Quit overrating DBZ.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
You’re crazy if you believe this...Supes pulled the Earth with help from WW and MM? Sure. The same Supes, MM, and WW had trouble lifting a 10 ton tanker? Also true.
Except its called a whats that word...BAD WRITE!Supes has been shown to split a planet in half,move a planet,and so many other things.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
So I dunno about this... 40 tons was during the afterlife and in base...he got INFINITLY times stronger since then... Even if we were to start Goku from that point, it’s safe to assume he could EASILY lift 6,250,000 tons in SSJ3 because if we started with him lifting 50 tons in base at that time... that would be SSJ=50X50=2,500, SS2=2,500X50=125,000, SSJ3=125,000X50=6,250,000...
Now he was able to lift that much in BASE at the end of Z.
New calculations:
SSJ=6,250,000X50=312,000,000, SSJ2=312,000,000X50=15,625,000,000, SSJ3=15,625,000,000X50=781,250,000,000
That’s freakin .78 of a TRILLION tons... That’s almost TWENTY times what Superman can lift.
Goku hasn’t aimed to destroy dimensions but he destroyed a being in one hit that was able to warp dimensions and time/space through power alone so...
LOL AT ALL OF THIS! You just pulled it all out of your ass.Goku in base during the BUU SAGA failed to lift 40 tons.He goes ssj and its no problem.So your calculations equal fail.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Thought you didn’t go there? Anyhow you didn’t refute anything from there...
REFUTED EVERYTHING!
Anyway I have no intentions of sounding like an ass(If I do)I’ve just been having rough days(especially today)and I have no one to take my anger out on so I apologize ahead.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Too bad that’s Marvel and doesn’t account for anything in DC, even crossovers...
This again huh(sorry if I sound like an ass I am having a bad day).Marvel and DC are what Comics therefore the same principles work.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Because SSJ Goku is faster than base Goku who was WAY faster than Burta who moves at light speed.
Burter came and said the following:“I AM BURTER AND I AM FASTER THAN LIGHT!!!“And thats it.Where are his feats of speed?Nowhere.Burter isn’t faster than light.
I mean Shenron >>>> Kaioshin powerwise but w/e... I know Kaioshin CAN’T beat WW...he can beat WW, Kara, and Hawkgirl at the same time...
I LOL at this hole sentence.Shenron isn’t shit.He can’t even turn an android to a human.Kaoishin is one of the weakest little fuckers on the planet.The fact that you think this shows signs of serious crack man.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Wanna bet? I have. Just not as impressive as Kara feats which don’t have a shit on Superman feats which are impressive but not spectaular.
And there’s the fact that I remember an issue of JLA I read recently...
The JLA nearly gets owned by the maniacal crazy ass god gone bad Z (an age old *few millennias super robot that ravaged MM’s world* created by a buncha punks) and all he does is invoke terror by “exploiting” their biggest fears so...
And you keep claiming this never happened but the JLA get OWNED. Just slaughtered by the Ancient League when they go to save Aquaman from Gammaneore. Hell Flash is too slow and gets his legs torn off, The Atom gets ripped apart, Supes gets beaten to death, MM gets burned to death, WW gets stabbed to death, Bats gets blown up and this pisses the fuck out of Green Lantern. He fights like a hero but the crazy ass Shaman guy tells him what to do, then he sacrifices himsefl and gets his heart ripped out...
Never heard of this issue.And guess what it makes about as much sense as your little theory Goku is the strongest in DBZ.Basically its another sign of a badwrite.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Then there’s the Teen Titans...All 500 of them from other realities and verses assemble including many different people at the level of Superboy (who’s not too far behind Kal) and Wonder Girl to take down DR. LIGHT...
Did you just say Superboy isn’t behind Kal?He is wayyyyy weaker than Kal.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
And it’s the truth. That is what I hate about guys from DC/Marvel against DBZ...if someone says something in a COMIC without proving it, you act as if God said it and it ISN’T a claim but whenever guys like Goku say stuff (who don’t lie btw) you’re like they “claimed” it...
Except Flash has feats that shows he is faster than light.Supes has feats that shows he is faster than light,and I don’t even need to continue.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
That’s not true, he wouldn’t have had that remote control in the first place... And if a guy like Gero could get tricked that easy... I mean they WERE in suspended animation the whole time yet they formulated a plan for 18 to distract Gero and 17 to own him...
Lets see.18 woke up and say the controller she acted like a typical android.So did 17,he was fooled and killed.Quit overrating DBZ.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
You’re crazy if you believe this...Supes pulled the Earth with help from WW and MM? Sure. The same Supes, MM, and WW had trouble lifting a 10 ton tanker? Also true.
Except its called a whats that word...BAD WRITE!Supes has been shown to split a planet in half,move a planet,and so many other things.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
So I dunno about this... 40 tons was during the afterlife and in base...he got INFINITLY times stronger since then... Even if we were to start Goku from that point, it’s safe to assume he could EASILY lift 6,250,000 tons in SSJ3 because if we started with him lifting 50 tons in base at that time... that would be SSJ=50X50=2,500, SS2=2,500X50=125,000, SSJ3=125,000X50=6,250,000...
Now he was able to lift that much in BASE at the end of Z.
New calculations:
SSJ=6,250,000X50=312,000,000, SSJ2=312,000,000X50=15,625,000,000, SSJ3=15,625,000,000X50=781,250,000,000
That’s freakin .78 of a TRILLION tons... That’s almost TWENTY times what Superman can lift.
Goku hasn’t aimed to destroy dimensions but he destroyed a being in one hit that was able to warp dimensions and time/space through power alone so...
LOL AT ALL OF THIS! You just pulled it all out of your ass.Goku in base during the BUU SAGA failed to lift 40 tons.He goes ssj and its no problem.So your calculations equal fail.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Thought you didn’t go there? Anyhow you didn’t refute anything from there...
REFUTED EVERYTHING!
Anyway I have no intentions of sounding like an ass(If I do)I’ve just been having rough days(especially today)and I have no one to take my anger out on so I apologize ahead.
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so you mean his sternght encreased 40x since childhood?