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29 Dec 2007 01:57 am
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Hehehehe...

There is no need for us to push atheist people to believe in God...

Well it doesnt mean that atheist like immorality...

immorality = attitude

so even the atheist dont believe in god but act nice to all people and forgive them if people did mistakes to atheist is the same like morality...

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29 Dec 2007 01:59 am
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richard the lionheart was a bad christian
hitler was a bad athiest
so on so forth
they’re are bad people in the world
but there are good people as well
if you say “christians always get in my face” your being a stereotype becouse most likely have met many people that a christians that are good people
so if you blame a religeon about what some people do makes you a stereotype
and no one likes a stereotype

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29 Dec 2007 02:01 am
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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Hehehehe...

There is no need for us to push atheist people to believe in God...

Well it doesnt mean that atheist like immorality...

immorality = attitude

so even the atheist dont believe in god but act nice to all people and forgive them if people did mistakes to atheist is the same like morality...

Do you agree that a theist could commit the same crimes, rape murder areson etc, and say god told him to, as an atheist could do because he wanted to see what it was like?

And that both of those are a corruption of those respective belief systems?

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29 Dec 2007 02:02 am
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jomas the grunt wrote: richard the lionheart was a bad christian
hitler was a bad athiest
so on so forth
they’re are bad people in the world
but there are good people as well
if you say “christians always get in my face” your being a stereotype becouse most likely have met many people that a christians that are good people
so if you blame a religeon about what some people do makes you a stereotype
and no one likes a stereotype

I HATE STEREOTYPES!! >:l
RAAAAWR!! shocked
*eats a racist*

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29 Dec 2007 02:05 am
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jomas the grunt wrote: richard the lionheart was a bad christian
hitler was a bad athiest
so on so forth
they’re are bad people in the world
but there are good people as well
if you say “christians always get in my face” your being a stereotype becouse most likely have met many people that a christians that are good people
so if you blame a religeon about what some people do makes you a stereotype
and no one likes a stereotype

I wouldnt sayrichard was a bad christian.


He actually believed what he was doing was good for the holy land. Not his fault. Pope told him to, and pope is infallible.


Bad christians would be the inquisitors.

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29 Dec 2007 02:06 am
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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
jomas the grunt wrote: richard the lionheart was a bad christian
hitler was a bad athiest
so on so forth
they’re are bad people in the world
but there are good people as well
if you say “christians always get in my face” your being a stereotype becouse most likely have met many people that a christians that are good people
so if you blame a religeon about what some people do makes you a stereotype
and no one likes a stereotype

I wouldnt sayrichard was a bad christian.


He actually believed what he was doing was good for the holy land. Not his fault. Pope told him to, and pope is infallible.


Bad christians would be the inquisitors.

like i said
theres bad people in the world that make whatever they believe in look bad
terrorists make muslims look bad(even though most of them arnt even muslim just from a muslim reagion)
infact my dentist is a muslim and she is really nice...

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29 Dec 2007 02:07 am
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the theist could do what you describe above...
no God told the theist to forgive the people who hates us, and act nice to them... but God also gives us a chance to defend our self from killing, murder or something like that...

the theist could do what you describe... but people has their choice to what kind of living he wanted to be...

nothing else...

I’m not talking about heaven and hell coz atheist dont believe that...

act nice to people is for all theist and atheist should do not by killing each other or blaming that atheist is bad or theist is cruel in fact of history...

theist and atheist just human and they should honour each other and act nice each other... there should be nice world for you and all of us...

Right...???

And Stop The War, Global Warming Up, Free Sex and Drugs...
So the world will have healthy life and mutual walfare to all human kind...

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29 Dec 2007 02:09 am
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like i said
theres bad people in the world that make whatever they believe in look bad
terrorists make muslims look bad(even though most of them arnt even muslim just from a muslim reagion)
infact my dentist is a muslim and she is really nice...
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The terrosist not just from moslem region now look at zionist israel...

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: the theist could do what you describe above...
no God told the theist to forgive the people who hates us, and act nice to them... but God also gives us a chance to defend our self from killing, murder or something like that...

the theist could do what you describe... but people has their choice to what kind of living he wanted to be...

nothing else...

I’m not talking about heaven and hell coz atheist dont believe that...

act nice to people is for all theist and atheist should do not by killing each other or blaming that atheist is bad or theist is cruel in fact of history...

theist and atheist just human and they should honour each other and act nice each other... there should be nice world for you and all of us...

Right...???

And Stop The War, Global Warming Up, Free Sex and Drugs...
So the world will have healthy life and mutual walfare to all human kind...

ha..

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29 Dec 2007 02:10 am
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???

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: like i said
theres bad people in the world that make whatever they believe in look bad
terrorists make muslims look bad(even though most of them arnt even muslim just from a muslim reagion)
infact my dentist is a muslim and she is really nice...
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The terrosist not just from moslem region now look at zionist israel...

But they still are muslim, thusly they make all muslims look like bloodthirsty, turban wearing, heathens.


A perception that hasnt changed much since the crusades.

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29 Dec 2007 02:12 am
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But they still are muslim, thusly they make all muslims look like bloodthirsty, turban wearing, heathens.


A perception that hasnt changed much since the crusades.
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That is from your point of view...

Bush, Ariel Sharon...???

We moslems were treated bad... so they fought back by doing those such things...

one thing to remember... the underworld government using Islam to make Islam and moslems look bad...

that is the fact...

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29 Dec 2007 02:15 am
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Itachi Uchiha wrote: But they still are muslim, thusly they make all muslims look like bloodthirsty, turban wearing, heathens.


A perception that hasnt changed much since the crusades.
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That is from your point of view...

Bush, Ariel Sharon...???

We moslems were treated bad... so they fought back by doing those such things...

one thing to remember... the underworld government using Islam to make Islam and moslems look bad...

that is the fact...

No, Im just saying that is the western worlds perception of Islam and its followers.


Im not exactly sure if you are reffering to them being treated poorly today or in the crusades.


And underworld government?

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29 Dec 2007 02:18 am
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Good people do good things and bad people do bad things. But for for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.

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29 Dec 2007 02:20 am
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ramunematt wrote: Good people do good things and bad people do bad things. But for for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.

Nono, ram. All it takes is a push in the right direction from a talented speaker.



Be him theist or atheist.

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29 Dec 2007 02:29 am
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Itachi Uchiha wrote: What about the millions who died at the hands of the popes, all thoese people who where killed because they said they didnt believe, the slavery, sexisum, child killing and the consistent destruction of logic.
Hitler was a christian. While it is true that Joseph Stalin , Mao Zedong and Pol Pot were all atheists, this is not the only thing they have in common. They were also men, political leaders and communists. Merely citing common denominators does not establish the cause of their actions. It is important to consider what was the main driving force in their committing atrocities against their own people.
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We moslems died from the battle of crusades... they judges us cruel and immorality... but they have no proof about that too... look at Saladin and King Richard and what Saladin did to help King Richard from sickness...???

Just like I said before... the religion people (a few of them).. doing what atheist did... and atheist (a few of them doing what the religious people did)...

smiley

No their are far more religous people doing bad things then athiest. The athiest that do bad things are just bad people.. where most of the religous crap that happen wouldnt have happen if it wasnt for religon.
For good people to do bad thing it takes religion

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: No religon in goverment is a huge peace of evidence.
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Religion exist before the government exist...

so...????

Wtf!! No religous requirements in the american goverment. Thats my proof that most where athiest!!! even though some christians have been trying to get rid of that line out of the constitution.

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29 Dec 2007 02:33 am
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No, Im just saying that is the western worlds perception of Islam and its followers.


Im not exactly sure if you are reffering to them being treated poorly today or in the crusades.


And underworld government?
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Western worlds think that moslems and Islam is terrorist so that is our duty moslems and Islam to proove that we are not that kind of men... stop killing each other...

Now and from crusade we are treated poorly

underworld government is exist to ruin the real government...

I read a lot that kind of book even from outside my country...

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29 Dec 2007 02:34 am
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Wtf!! No religous requirements in the american goverment. Thats my proof that most where athiest!!! even though some christians have been trying to get rid of that line out of the constitution.
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Yes... no religious require for that but religions exist before government exist...

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: No, Im just saying that is the western worlds perception of Islam and its followers.


Im not exactly sure if you are reffering to them being treated poorly today or in the crusades.


And underworld government?
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
Western worlds think that moslems and Islam is terrorist so that is our duty moslems and Islam to proove that we are not that kind of men... stop killing each other...

Now and from crusade we are treated poorly

underworld government is exist to ruin the real government...

I read a lot that kind of book even from outside my country...

Dont put me into the christian thought pattern..

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