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27 Nov 2007 11:56 pm
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seed wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote: why GT Goku?

I wonder myself.He’s weak compared to DBZ Goku.

dbz goku what base version?
ssj,ssj2,ssj3?


Goku Buu Saga was probably around SSJ4 in his SSJ2 state mabe alittle weaker

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Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
seed wrote:
dbz goku what base version?
ssj,ssj2,ssj3?

Adult SSJ3 and more than likely end of series Goku.

you mean ssj3 is more powewrfull than ssj4?



He’s catching on SSJ4 is a non-Cannon flaw witch is by DBZ law cetifiably weaker than SSJ3 Goku

ssj4 is a canon we know toriyama created that.
so it means to them if a character is non canon it means he is weak?

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28 Nov 2007 12:00 am
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captainqu33f wrote: if ur gonna do math that way, Golden Ozzaru turned GOKU also needs the 50 times from SSJ1 SSJ2 SSJ3 and SSJ4... lol so looks like im a better mathematician.


Wrong Goku’s so called SSJ4 was weaker than babi was in strenth as stated by Supream Kia but he did have a speed advantage, but even if he did Go Golden Ozzaru and then get a 50 plus bonus fron Super Saiyan Ozzaru he would still be weakerthan Z Goku lol

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no dude do the math. Because SSJ4 can only be achieve by Ozzaru doesnt mean it doesnt include benefits from SSJ1-3. therefore factor of 500 by golden Ozzuran, times SSJ1 SSJ2 SSJ3 SSJ4 is a factor of 3125000000 while SSJ1 SSJ2 SSJ3 goes up to factor of 125000.

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seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
seed wrote:
dbz goku what base version?
ssj,ssj2,ssj3?

Adult SSJ3 and more than likely end of series Goku.

you mean ssj3 is more powewrfull than ssj4?



He’s catching on SSJ4 is a non-Cannon flaw witch is by DBZ law cetifiably weaker than SSJ3 Goku

ssj4 is a canon we know toriyama created that.
so it means to them if a character is non canon it means he is weak?


Nahhh i dont think non Cannon is weak just look at the Z non Cannon that Buff’s up alot of people from what they were, its just in GT the creators made many errors on how the fundimental consepts of Super Saiyan power’s work lol, they completely missed Mystic Gohan lol and most of the cast were made many times weaker.

Do you really think Goten Trunks and Gohan SSJ and untrained along with Pan should have been enough to give Super Saiyan Ozzaru (SSJ4 too you his full power in that state).

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captainqu33f wrote: no dude do the math. Because SSJ4 can only be achieve by Ozzaru doesnt mean it doesnt include benefits from SSJ1-3. therefore factor of 500 by golden Ozzuran, times SSJ1 SSJ2 SSJ3 SSJ4 is a factor of 3125000000 while SSJ1 SSJ2 SSJ3 goes up to factor of 125000.


Your missing the point Ozzaru is a 10 times power up SSJ a 50 a Super Ozzaru posses 50 times the Ozzaru’s strenth, now your right that it should have SSJ2,3 bonus upgrade’s but it dousent (notice there is no lightning from SSJ2 or increase in Hair from SSJ3, nope only Golden Ozzaru Go’s straight to SSJ4 as you put it.

nice math tho its bang but it really holds no bearing as GT is pittifuly flawed.

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Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
seed wrote:
dbz goku what base version?
ssj,ssj2,ssj3?

Adult SSJ3 and more than likely end of series Goku.

you mean ssj3 is more powewrfull than ssj4?



He’s catching on SSJ4 is a non-Cannon flaw witch is by DBZ law cetifiably weaker than SSJ3 Goku

ssj4 is a canon we know toriyama created that.
so it means to them if a character is non canon it means he is weak?


Nahhh i dont think non Cannon is weak just look at the Z non Cannon that Buff’s up alot of people from what they were, its just in GT the creators made many errors on how the fundimental consepts of Super Saiyan power’s work lol, they completely missed Mystic Gohan lol and most of the cast were made many times weaker.

Do you really think Goten Trunks and Gohan SSJ and untrained along with Pan should have been enough to give Super Saiyan Ozzaru (SSJ4 too you his full power in that state).

you mean if you combine those 3 characters and give power to goku it means the power is weak?

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28 Nov 2007 12:24 am
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seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
seed wrote:
dbz goku what base version?
ssj,ssj2,ssj3?

Adult SSJ3 and more than likely end of series Goku.

you mean ssj3 is more powewrfull than ssj4?



He’s catching on SSJ4 is a non-Cannon flaw witch is by DBZ law cetifiably weaker than SSJ3 Goku

ssj4 is a canon we know toriyama created that.
so it means to them if a character is non canon it means he is weak?


Nahhh i dont think non Cannon is weak just look at the Z non Cannon that Buff’s up alot of people from what they were, its just in GT the creators made many errors on how the fundimental consepts of Super Saiyan power’s work lol, they completely missed Mystic Gohan lol and most of the cast were made many times weaker.

Do you really think Goten Trunks and Gohan SSJ and untrained along with Pan should have been enough to give Super Saiyan Ozzaru (SSJ4 too you his full power in that state).

you mean if you combine those 3 characters and give power to goku it means the power is weak?


Well yea Gohan Goten and Trunks did little to no training for 20yrs yet there SSJ energy boosted Goku to MAX power in that state...its obsurd

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Another power Flaw Bebi merged with Vegeta then Trunks Gohan and Goten and Bula’s Saiyan energy’s then everyone on earth’s then went Golden Ozzaru and had Max output from the Blutz Wave amplifyer...yet Goku with Goten Trunks and Gohan’s and Pan’s power toppled him lol wtf???

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Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
seed wrote:
dbz goku what base version?
ssj,ssj2,ssj3?

Adult SSJ3 and more than likely end of series Goku.

you mean ssj3 is more powewrfull than ssj4?



He’s catching on SSJ4 is a non-Cannon flaw witch is by DBZ law cetifiably weaker than SSJ3 Goku

ssj4 is a canon we know toriyama created that.
so it means to them if a character is non canon it means he is weak?


Nahhh i dont think non Cannon is weak just look at the Z non Cannon that Buff’s up alot of people from what they were, its just in GT the creators made many errors on how the fundimental consepts of Super Saiyan power’s work lol, they completely missed Mystic Gohan lol and most of the cast were made many times weaker.

Do you really think Goten Trunks and Gohan SSJ and untrained along with Pan should have been enough to give Super Saiyan Ozzaru (SSJ4 too you his full power in that state).

you mean if you combine those 3 characters and give power to goku it means the power is weak?


Well yea Gohan Goten and Trunks did little to no training for 20yrs yet there SSJ energy boosted Goku to MAX power in that state...its obsurd

well there is no proof that they are not training for 20 years and you can’t under estimate there power there.
remember like piccolo and kami merge?kami is weak compared to piccolo but it gives him a power.

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Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
seed wrote:
dbz goku what base version?
ssj,ssj2,ssj3?

Adult SSJ3 and more than likely end of series Goku.

you mean ssj3 is more powewrfull than ssj4?



He’s catching on SSJ4 is a non-Cannon flaw witch is by DBZ law cetifiably weaker than SSJ3 Goku

ssj4 is a canon we know toriyama created that.
so it means to them if a character is non canon it means he is weak?


Nahhh i dont think non Cannon is weak just look at the Z non Cannon that Buff’s up alot of people from what they were, its just in GT the creators made many errors on how the fundimental consepts of Super Saiyan power’s work lol, they completely missed Mystic Gohan lol and most of the cast were made many times weaker.

Do you really think Goten Trunks and Gohan SSJ and untrained along with Pan should have been enough to give Super Saiyan Ozzaru (SSJ4 too you his full power in that state).

you mean if you combine those 3 characters and give power to goku it means the power is weak?


Well yea Gohan Goten and Trunks did little to no training for 20yrs yet there SSJ energy boosted Goku to MAX power in that state...its obsurd

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Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
seed wrote:
dbz goku what base version?
ssj,ssj2,ssj3?

Adult SSJ3 and more than likely end of series Goku.

you mean ssj3 is more powewrfull than ssj4?



He’s catching on SSJ4 is a non-Cannon flaw witch is by DBZ law cetifiably weaker than SSJ3 Goku

ssj4 is a canon we know toriyama created that.
so it means to them if a character is non canon it means he is weak?


Nahhh i dont think non Cannon is weak just look at the Z non Cannon that Buff’s up alot of people from what they were, its just in GT the creators made many errors on how the fundimental consepts of Super Saiyan power’s work lol, they completely missed Mystic Gohan lol and most of the cast were made many times weaker.

Do you really think Goten Trunks and Gohan SSJ and untrained along with Pan should have been enough to give Super Saiyan Ozzaru (SSJ4 too you his full power in that state).

you mean if you combine those 3 characters and give power to goku it means the power is weak?


Well yea Gohan Goten and Trunks did little to no training for 20yrs yet there SSJ energy boosted Goku to MAX power in that state...its obsurd

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seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
seed wrote:
dbz goku what base version?
ssj,ssj2,ssj3?

Adult SSJ3 and more than likely end of series Goku.

you mean ssj3 is more powewrfull than ssj4?



He’s catching on SSJ4 is a non-Cannon flaw witch is by DBZ law cetifiably weaker than SSJ3 Goku

ssj4 is a canon we know toriyama created that.
so it means to them if a character is non canon it means he is weak?


Nahhh i dont think non Cannon is weak just look at the Z non Cannon that Buff’s up alot of people from what they were, its just in GT the creators made many errors on how the fundimental consepts of Super Saiyan power’s work lol, they completely missed Mystic Gohan lol and most of the cast were made many times weaker.

Do you really think Goten Trunks and Gohan SSJ and untrained along with Pan should have been enough to give Super Saiyan Ozzaru (SSJ4 too you his full power in that state).

you mean if you combine those 3 characters and give power to goku it means the power is weak?


Well yea Gohan Goten and Trunks did little to no training for 20yrs yet there SSJ energy boosted Goku to MAX power in that state...its obsurd

well there is no proof that they are not training for 20 years and you can’t under estimate there power there.
remember like piccolo and kami merge?kami is weak compared to piccolo but it gives him a power.


OMG were do i start, Goten and Trunks were sent on the trip through space becuase of there slacking but Pan went instead its the prime reason they went, i mean Trunks even struggles to go Super Saiyan because he hasnt trained in so long(makeing him weaker than when he was a little kid for pete’s sake) and Vegeta and Goku are often seen speaking of how Trunks and Goten are both slakers at the end of Z and beggining of GT also Gohan has settled down and become a scholar and can no longer use Mystic...no proof my foot!

And yes Piccolo’s power was devided in half when he split makeing him much stronger than he was, but remember this i Z its logical in opose to GT and its elogical power scale’s.

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seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
seed wrote:
dbz goku what base version?
ssj,ssj2,ssj3?

Adult SSJ3 and more than likely end of series Goku.

you mean ssj3 is more powewrfull than ssj4?



He’s catching on SSJ4 is a non-Cannon flaw witch is by DBZ law cetifiably weaker than SSJ3 Goku

ssj4 is a canon we know toriyama created that.
so it means to them if a character is non canon it means he is weak?


Nahhh i dont think non Cannon is weak just look at the Z non Cannon that Buff’s up alot of people from what they were, its just in GT the creators made many errors on how the fundimental consepts of Super Saiyan power’s work lol, they completely missed Mystic Gohan lol and most of the cast were made many times weaker.

Do you really think Goten Trunks and Gohan SSJ and untrained along with Pan should have been enough to give Super Saiyan Ozzaru (SSJ4 too you his full power in that state).

you mean if you combine those 3 characters and give power to goku it means the power is weak?


Well yea Gohan Goten and Trunks did little to no training for 20yrs yet there SSJ energy boosted Goku to MAX power in that state...its obsurd

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i know 3 weakened SSJ’s gave Goku SSJ4 full power lol

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Why did u double post...

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Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
seed wrote:
dbz goku what base version?
ssj,ssj2,ssj3?

Adult SSJ3 and more than likely end of series Goku.

you mean ssj3 is more powewrfull than ssj4?



He’s catching on SSJ4 is a non-Cannon flaw witch is by DBZ law cetifiably weaker than SSJ3 Goku

ssj4 is a canon we know toriyama created that.
so it means to them if a character is non canon it means he is weak?


Nahhh i dont think non Cannon is weak just look at the Z non Cannon that Buff’s up alot of people from what they were, its just in GT the creators made many errors on how the fundimental consepts of Super Saiyan power’s work lol, they completely missed Mystic Gohan lol and most of the cast were made many times weaker.

Do you really think Goten Trunks and Gohan SSJ and untrained along with Pan should have been enough to give Super Saiyan Ozzaru (SSJ4 too you his full power in that state).

you mean if you combine those 3 characters and give power to goku it means the power is weak?


Well yea Gohan Goten and Trunks did little to no training for 20yrs yet there SSJ energy boosted Goku to MAX power in that state...its obsurd

well there is no proof that they are not training for 20 years and you can’t under estimate there power there.
remember like piccolo and kami merge?kami is weak compared to piccolo but it gives him a power.


OMG were do i start, Goten and Trunks were sent on the trip through space becuase of there slacking but Pan went instead its the prime reason they went, i mean Trunks even struggles to go Super Saiyan because he hasnt trained in so long(makeing him weaker than when he was a little kid for pete’s sake) and Vegeta and Goku are often seen speaking of how Trunks and Goten are both slakers at the end of Z and beggining of GT also Gohan has settled down and become a scholar and can no longer use Mystic...no proof my foot!

And yes Piccolo’s power was devided in half when he split makeing him much stronger than he was, but remember this i Z its logical in opose to GT and its elogical power scale’s.

it means to you that their power combine is only just a ssj2 which is wrong
so it means to you the ssj2 from cell saga can own ssj4.
that was piccolo from db saga and his power there is weak so it means that the piccolo from android is is more powerfull than kami.
from dbz they are not equal powers.

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Kyle Knight wrote: Why did u double post...

i think that was an error because its too long to upload my reply.

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seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
seed wrote:
dbz goku what base version?
ssj,ssj2,ssj3?

Adult SSJ3 and more than likely end of series Goku.

you mean ssj3 is more powewrfull than ssj4?



He’s catching on SSJ4 is a non-Cannon flaw witch is by DBZ law cetifiably weaker than SSJ3 Goku

ssj4 is a canon we know toriyama created that.
so it means to them if a character is non canon it means he is weak?


Nahhh i dont think non Cannon is weak just look at the Z non Cannon that Buff’s up alot of people from what they were, its just in GT the creators made many errors on how the fundimental consepts of Super Saiyan power’s work lol, they completely missed Mystic Gohan lol and most of the cast were made many times weaker.

Do you really think Goten Trunks and Gohan SSJ and untrained along with Pan should have been enough to give Super Saiyan Ozzaru (SSJ4 too you his full power in that state).

you mean if you combine those 3 characters and give power to goku it means the power is weak?


Well yea Gohan Goten and Trunks did little to no training for 20yrs yet there SSJ energy boosted Goku to MAX power in that state...its obsurd

well there is no proof that they are not training for 20 years and you can’t under estimate there power there.
remember like piccolo and kami merge?kami is weak compared to piccolo but it gives him a power.


OMG were do i start, Goten and Trunks were sent on the trip through space becuase of there slacking but Pan went instead its the prime reason they went, i mean Trunks even struggles to go Super Saiyan because he hasnt trained in so long(makeing him weaker than when he was a little kid for pete’s sake) and Vegeta and Goku are often seen speaking of how Trunks and Goten are both slakers at the end of Z and beggining of GT also Gohan has settled down and become a scholar and can no longer use Mystic...no proof my foot!

And yes Piccolo’s power was devided in half when he split makeing him much stronger than he was, but remember this i Z its logical in opose to GT and its elogical power scale’s.

it means to you that their power combine is only just a ssj2 which is wrong
so it means to you the ssj2 from cell saga can own ssj4.
that was piccolo from db saga and his power there is weak so it means that the piccolo from android is is more powerfull than kami.
from dbz they are not equal powers.


Actually yes your getting it, Gohan Buu saga dident train 7yrs and was less than half his previouse power, Gohan GT dident train for 20yrs makeing him much weaker still.

Goten and Trunk’s alone wernt stronger than SSJ2 Gohan was and in GT they struggled with SSJ and had gotten weaker so yea they probably struggle to reach SSJ2 Gohan’s power in all honesty.

As for the power scale if you train your power go’s up in SSJ aswell as base form so im saying Lack of training made them weaker in all forms aswell, were as training would have boosted there power (in anycase even if they had trained 3 SSJ’s dont equal a SSJ3 they barely cover SSJ2.

erm not sure were ur going with the Piccolo thing...u lost me completely lol

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Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
seed wrote:
dbz goku what base version?
ssj,ssj2,ssj3?

Adult SSJ3 and more than likely end of series Goku.

you mean ssj3 is more powewrfull than ssj4?



He’s catching on SSJ4 is a non-Cannon flaw witch is by DBZ law cetifiably weaker than SSJ3 Goku

ssj4 is a canon we know toriyama created that.
so it means to them if a character is non canon it means he is weak?


Nahhh i dont think non Cannon is weak just look at the Z non Cannon that Buff’s up alot of people from what they were, its just in GT the creators made many errors on how the fundimental consepts of Super Saiyan power’s work lol, they completely missed Mystic Gohan lol and most of the cast were made many times weaker.

Do you really think Goten Trunks and Gohan SSJ and untrained along with Pan should have been enough to give Super Saiyan Ozzaru (SSJ4 too you his full power in that state).

you mean if you combine those 3 characters and give power to goku it means the power is weak?


Well yea Gohan Goten and Trunks did little to no training for 20yrs yet there SSJ energy boosted Goku to MAX power in that state...its obsurd

well there is no proof that they are not training for 20 years and you can’t under estimate there power there.
remember like piccolo and kami merge?kami is weak compared to piccolo but it gives him a power.


OMG were do i start, Goten and Trunks were sent on the trip through space becuase of there slacking but Pan went instead its the prime reason they went, i mean Trunks even struggles to go Super Saiyan because he hasnt trained in so long(makeing him weaker than when he was a little kid for pete’s sake) and Vegeta and Goku are often seen speaking of how Trunks and Goten are both slakers at the end of Z and beggining of GT also Gohan has settled down and become a scholar and can no longer use Mystic...no proof my foot!

And yes Piccolo’s power was devided in half when he split makeing him much stronger than he was, but remember this i Z its logical in opose to GT and its elogical power scale’s.

it means to you that their power combine is only just a ssj2 which is wrong
so it means to you the ssj2 from cell saga can own ssj4.
that was piccolo from db saga and his power there is weak so it means that the piccolo from android is is more powerfull than kami.
from dbz they are not equal powers.


Actually yes your getting it, Gohan Buu saga dident train 7yrs and was less than half his previouse power, Gohan GT dident train for 20yrs makeing him much weaker still.

Goten and Trunk’s alone wernt stronger than SSJ2 Gohan was and in GT they struggled with SSJ and had gotten weaker so yea they probably struggle to reach SSJ2 Gohan’s power in all honesty.

As for the power scale if you train your power go’s up in SSJ aswell as base form so im saying Lack of training made them weaker in all forms aswell, were as training would have boosted there power (in anycase even if they had trained 3 SSJ’s dont equal a SSJ3 they barely cover SSJ2.

erm not sure were ur going with the Piccolo thing...u lost me completely lol

for me the ssj from gt is more powerfull than ssj dbz.
it is stupid for me if i would say gt powers decreasing.
for me the ssj from gt is more powerfull than ssj dbz.

and toriyama would laugh at toei because his characters decreases thier powers.

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Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
seed wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
seed wrote:
dbz goku what base version?
ssj,ssj2,ssj3?

Adult SSJ3 and more than likely end of series Goku.

you mean ssj3 is more powewrfull than ssj4?



He’s catching on SSJ4 is a non-Cannon flaw witch is by DBZ law cetifiably weaker than SSJ3 Goku

ssj4 is a canon we know toriyama created that.
so it means to them if a character is non canon it means he is weak?


Nahhh i dont think non Cannon is weak just look at the Z non Cannon that Buff’s up alot of people from what they were, its just in GT the creators made many errors on how the fundimental consepts of Super Saiyan power’s work lol, they completely missed Mystic Gohan lol and most of the cast were made many times weaker.

Do you really think Goten Trunks and Gohan SSJ and untrained along with Pan should have been enough to give Super Saiyan Ozzaru (SSJ4 too you his full power in that state).

you mean if you combine those 3 characters and give power to goku it means the power is weak?


Well yea Gohan Goten and Trunks did little to no training for 20yrs yet there SSJ energy boosted Goku to MAX power in that state...its obsurd

well there is no proof that they are not training for 20 years and you can’t under estimate there power there.
remember like piccolo and kami merge?kami is weak compared to piccolo but it gives him a power.


OMG were do i start, Goten and Trunks were sent on the trip through space becuase of there slacking but Pan went instead its the prime reason they went, i mean Trunks even struggles to go Super Saiyan because he hasnt trained in so long(makeing him weaker than when he was a little kid for pete’s sake) and Vegeta and Goku are often seen speaking of how Trunks and Goten are both slakers at the end of Z and beggining of GT also Gohan has settled down and become a scholar and can no longer use Mystic...no proof my foot!

And yes Piccolo’s power was devided in half when he split makeing him much stronger than he was, but remember this i Z its logical in opose to GT and its elogical power scale’s.

it means to you that their power combine is only just a ssj2 which is wrong
so it means to you the ssj2 from cell saga can own ssj4.
that was piccolo from db saga and his power there is weak so it means that the piccolo from android is is more powerfull than kami.
from dbz they are not equal powers.


Actually yes your getting it, Gohan Buu saga dident train 7yrs and was less than half his previouse power, Gohan GT dident train for 20yrs makeing him much weaker still.

Goten and Trunk’s alone wernt stronger than SSJ2 Gohan was and in GT they struggled with SSJ and had gotten weaker so yea they probably struggle to reach SSJ2 Gohan’s power in all honesty.

As for the power scale if you train your power go’s up in SSJ aswell as base form so im saying Lack of training made them weaker in all forms aswell, were as training would have boosted there power (in anycase even if they had trained 3 SSJ’s dont equal a SSJ3 they barely cover SSJ2.

erm not sure were ur going with the Piccolo thing...u lost me completely lol

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