#381 17 Jul 2008 03:45 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Well two of those are energy feats but I get what your saying. ---
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#382 17 Jul 2008 04:07 pm |
AIChain Guest | the whole logic behind DBZ and GT is all mest up.. It’s useless discussing ever signal logic to the point.
Let me put it this way. In DBZ freeza stated that sayians can’t breath in space. But if you take a trip down memory lane, you see vageta and nappa out of there space pods in space blowing a planet up..
Then on top of this, then they made the wish on namek, they stated.. “to bring everyone back that freeza killed back to life”... Well.... where the fuck is planet vageta?
Also if vageta like his saiyan race so much, why didn’t he fuckin wish them all back along time ago -.-.
To them stating that SSJ4 is weaker then the other forums are complete idiots. I’d suggest you rewatch the show to understand my point.
If SSJ3 or less is stronger, why would he go to SSJ4? it’s simple, bc it’s a stronger forum.
I could go on and on about this. But as a said before, arguing with a series that has stop years ago is pointless. | |
#383 17 Jul 2008 04:10 pm |
Khalil Guest | Fillers my friend,fillers. | |
#384 22 Jul 2008 10:39 am |
some one new Guest | The main point is that if ss4 was weaker than ss3 then ss4 wouldn’t have been made...
Te fact that Goku became an adult to undergo that transformation proves that it is stronger than ss3. Goku’s child body was not as tough as his adult body thus he wasn’t able to become a ss3 for too long nor was he able to use instant transmission. Not to mention he couldn’t take a hit. His body adapted to a form where he could excersize his potential.
Note that GT took place during the course of one year so Goku never really had much of an oppportunity to rest. Saying he did most of the work. | |
#385 22 Jul 2008 10:40 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 25 Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 2,224 OFFLINE | Gt goku is the strongest goku so he would beat superman ---
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#386 22 Jul 2008 11:44 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 46 Joined: 02 Apr 2008 Posts: 1,895 OFFLINE | Read a comic book Superman beats Goku easy. | |
#387 29 Jul 2008 09:20 am |
some one new Guest | Superman Prime wrote:
Read a comic book Superman beats Goku easy.
Depending on the writer, the battle conditions and superman’s attitude ...he may have a chance.
...maybe... | |
#388 23 Aug 2008 05:50 pm |
omniblast Guest | GT Goku is much much stronger than his DBZ counterpart. SSJ1 Kid Goku is as strong as SSJ3 dbz Goku. This shown through his fight with rildo. So, DBZ goku SSJ3 would beat most versions of superman, besides prime, one million and maybe one or two other exagerate incarnations. SSJ4 GT Goku as we knew him would be close to on par with Superman Prime, and if goku had not been turned into a child, an Adult Goku in SSJ4 form would have been roughly 5 times stronger than his base version. | |
#389 23 Aug 2008 06:02 pm |
omniblast Guest | Your logic that a Golden Ozaru is only 50 times stronger than base is flawed and assuming. We have no idea if a SSJ1 can turn into a golden Ozaru. The only person who did it naturally was Goku and he was a SSJ3, so to say that it is just a SSJ1 Ozaru and only 50 times stronger is rather assuming. If what people are saying is true and that SSJ4 is only around SSJ2, how was it that base goku beat Perfect Cell and Frieza easily, who both claimed were much stronger. Doesn’t have too much sense seeing as how Perfect cell himself would have been close to a SSJ2 level. SSJ4 Goku is 40-50 times stronger than his base form. And even with the event of goku beating super 17 in his base form, this is the truth, he only beat him because he found his weakness and he hit him with his second strongest technique. That means that SSJ4 Goku is closer to 70-80 times stronger than an improved perfect cell. There is no SSJ2 I know of who is that much stronger than cell unless you are counting a fused being like Vegito, if he had gone SSJ2. And SSJ3 Goku was nowhere near that much stronger than cell. SSJ4 Goku wins this, and as I was saying before, if he had not been turned into a kid, his SSJ4 version would have been 15-20 times stronger than his kid goku SSJ4. This Goku would have destroyed any version of Superman. He would have also destroyed Omega Shenron by himself. Too bad he was turned into a kid. | |
#390 23 Aug 2008 08:02 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 14 Joined: 15 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,082 OFFLINE | Superman Prime wrote:
Read a comic book Superman beats Goku easy.
-Agrees
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#391 23 Aug 2008 08:23 pm |
omniblast Guest | Like I said it depends on which superman comes to the battle. Superman’s power is more inconsistent than even DBZ/GT. Goku is a master at light speed battles, superman while faster than goku, doesn’t have the reflexes that goku has. It is like a track star vs a martial artist. Superman is stronger, but Goku knows how to apply his strength in the most efficient manner. Goku would most likely win. | |
#392 23 Aug 2008 09:20 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 15 Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 1,067 OFFLINE | omniblast wrote:
Your logic that a Golden Ozaru is only 50 times stronger than base is flawed and assuming. We have no idea if a SSJ1 can turn into a golden Ozaru. The only person who did it naturally was Goku and he was a SSJ3, so to say that it is just a SSJ1 Ozaru and only 50 times stronger is rather assuming. If what people are saying is true and that SSJ4 is only around SSJ2, how was it that base goku beat Perfect Cell and Frieza easily, who both claimed were much stronger. Doesn’t have too much sense seeing as how Perfect cell himself would have been close to a SSJ2 level. SSJ4 Goku is 40-50 times stronger than his base form. And even with the event of goku beating super 17 in his base form, this is the truth, he only beat him because he found his weakness and he hit him with his second strongest technique. That means that SSJ4 Goku is closer to 70-80 times stronger than an improved perfect cell. There is no SSJ2 I know of who is that much stronger than cell unless you are counting a fused being like Vegito, if he had gone SSJ2. And SSJ3 Goku was nowhere near that much stronger than cell. SSJ4 Goku wins this, and as I was saying before, if he had not been turned into a kid, his SSJ4 version would have been 15-20 times stronger than his kid goku SSJ4. This Goku would have destroyed any version of Superman. He would have also destroyed Omega Shenron by himself. Too bad he was turned into a kid.
Sorry but any version nah.I can think of several that would still beat him.Pre Crisis Superman,Superman Prime,Sun Dipped Superman,Superman 1 Million. | |
#393 24 Aug 2008 12:36 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 46 Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 2,438 OFFLINE | omniblast wrote:
Like I said it depends on which superman comes to the battle. Superman’s power is more inconsistent than even DBZ/GT. Goku is a master at light speed battles, superman while faster than goku, doesn’t have the reflexes that goku has. It is like a track star vs a martial artist. Superman is stronger, but Goku knows how to apply his strength in the most efficient manner. Goku would most likely win.
Goku does not fight at light speed and GT Goku struggled to left a building...also Superman is a martial artist.
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#394 24 Aug 2008 02:20 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20 Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 2,743 OFFLINE | Mystic Kal-El wrote:
omniblast wrote:
Like I said it depends on which superman comes to the battle. Superman’s power is more inconsistent than even DBZ/GT. Goku is a master at light speed battles, superman while faster than goku, doesn’t have the reflexes that goku has. It is like a track star vs a martial artist. Superman is stronger, but Goku knows how to apply his strength in the most efficient manner. Goku would most likely win.
Goku does not fight at light speed and GT Goku struggled to left a building...also Superman is a martial artist.
That’s bull since Goku lifted a city
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#395 24 Aug 2008 02:29 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 46Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 2,438 OFFLINE | I didn’t see a city being left. ---
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#396 24 Aug 2008 02:39 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 2,743 OFFLINE | Mystic Kal-El wrote:
I didn’t see a city being left.
Of course not. Why not watch the series before you talk about it
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#397 24 Aug 2008 02:48 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 46Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 2,438 OFFLINE | I saw it and the city was not being left like superman would do it sorry but I only see him lefting a building.:/ ---
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#398 24 Aug 2008 02:59 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 2,743 OFFLINE | Mystic Kal-El wrote:
I saw it and the city was not being left like superman would do it sorry but I only see him lefting a building.:/
prove it. ya cant cause goku never liftrf a building
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#399 24 Aug 2008 03:05 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 46Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 2,438 OFFLINE | And Goku never left a city he was only under a building. ---
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#400 24 Aug 2008 03:09 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 2,743 OFFLINE | Mystic Kal-El wrote:
And Goku never left a city he was only under a building.
he was under the city
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