| 30 Nov 2007 01:31 pm |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 188 OFFLINE | This Is For People Who Stay True To The Anime And Not Manga. This Includes All DragonBall & DragonBall Z Episodes And Movies (Fillers Included).
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“Goku SS3 Vs Fat Buu”
-Goku Stated That He Only Intended To Stall Fat Buu, And That He Could Have Destroyed Him, But Wanted Goten & Trunks To Defeat Him.
Goku SS3 > Fat Buu
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“Gotenks SS3 vs Super Buu”
-Gotenks Matched Super Buu Blow For Blow, And Stated Later That They Were About Even.
Gotenks SS3 = Super Buu
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“Mystic Saiyan Vs SS3”
-Mystic Gohan Was Stated To Have Surpassed His Previous Limitations, His Previous Limit Was Super Saiyan 2...
Mystic Saiyan = SS3
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“Mystic Gohan Vs Gotenks SS3”
-Mystic Gohan Was Stated As “More Powerful” Than Gotenks, By Goten And Trunks.
Mystic Gohan > Gotenks SS3
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“Kid Buu’s Superiority”
-Kid Buu Was Stated As Being The Most Powerful Form Of Buu Yet... With The Exception of “Super Buu’s ABSORBED Forms”.
Kid Buu > Super Buu > Fat Buu
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“Goku SS3 vs Kid Buu”
-Goku Stated That He Could Have Destroyed Kid Buu, But He Wanted Vegeta To Have A Chance At Fighting Him.
Goku SS3 > Kid Buu > Super Buu > Fat Buu
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“Goku SS3 Vs Super Buu (GOTENKS & PICCOLO ABSORBED)"
-Goku SS3 Fought Super Buu With GOTENKS & PICCOLO ABSORBED And Did Better Than Mystic Gohan.
Goku SS3 > Mystic Gohan
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“Goku SS3 vs Hirudegarn (WRATH OF THE DRAGON)"
-In The Movie Goku SS3 Proves To Be More Powerful Than Mystic Gohan And Gotenks SS3.
Goku SS3 > Mystic Gohan > Gotenks SS3
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“Goku Vs FAT Janemba (FUSION REBORN)"
-Goku States That Fat Janemba’s Energy Could Destroy The Universe, Then Goku Proceeded To Beat The Hell Out Of Him In SS3.
Goku SS3 > Fat Janemba > Universe
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“Facts Based On The Above (ANIME) Information”
GOKU SS3 > Mystic Gohan > Kid Buu > Gotenks SS3 = Super Buu > Fat Buu > Universe.
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| 30 Nov 2007 01:38 pm |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 188 OFFLINE | Heres Something Else To Think About... (ANDROID SAGA)
“Vegeta SS Vs Android #18”
-Vegeta SS Matched Android #18 Blow For Blow.. Later She Confirmed She Was Fighting At 50% Of Her Full Power, And By Breaking His Arm Confirmed Her Confirmation...
Thus.. Vegeta Is Half As Strong As Her In The Android Saga.
18 > Vegeta SS
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| 30 Nov 2007 02:24 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 8  Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 2,665 OFFLINE | "“Mystic Saiyan Vs SS3”
-Mystic Gohan Was Stated To Have Surpassed His Previous Limitations, His Previous Limit Was Super Saiyan 2...
Mystic Saiyan = SS3”
Surpassing doesn’t necessarily mean stopping at SSJ3 lvl.
Goku stated he was unable to fight Super Buu, with Vegeta, yet Gohan played with Super Buu.
Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Goku.
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| 30 Nov 2007 02:35 pm |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 188 OFFLINE | Your Right In the Fact That “By Itself it Holds No Factual Value, But If You Take Into Consideration The Below”
the Super Buu You Refer To is Gohan Absorbed..
The Buu Gohan Toyed With Was The Regular Super Buu Which is Weaker Than Kid buu Which Goku Said He Could Have Killed.
Super Buu by Himself Is Weaker Than Kid buu And If You Read All my Posts You Would See Goku Is Stronger Than All the unfused buu’s
And if You HAd Read the Wrath of The Dragon Post You Would See he is Stronger Than Both Mystic Gohan and Gotenks
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| 30 Nov 2007 02:39 pm |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 188 OFFLINE | There Are 3 unfused Forms of buu (Kid Buu/Super Buu/ & Fat buu)
There Are 3 Fused Forms of buu (Super Buu “Gohan Absorbed”/ Superbuu Gotenks/ And Superbuu Piccolo)
The Only ones Stronger Than Kidbuu Is Gotenks And Gohan Absorbed.
That means Goku is Stronger Than All But Those 2.
Same With Gohan “Mystic”
The thing that nudges Me in the favor Of SS3 Goku As Stronger is He Fought “GOtenks Absorbed buu” Better Than Mystic Gohan And In The Movie They Make It Quite Clear Than Goku Is Stronger Than Mystic Gohan.
P.S. At least We Can Talk About This Like Adult’s Being On the Same Side And All.
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| 30 Nov 2007 03:13 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 8  Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 2,665 OFFLINE | Actually, Kid Buu is the weaest of them all. Goku states if he concentrates e could have kiled Kid Buu with ease, sure, but Super Buu iss still more powerful than Goku.
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| 30 Nov 2007 03:16 pm |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 188 OFFLINE | Super Buu With Gohan Absorbed Is Stronger Than
Super Buu With Gotenks Absorbed
Goku SS3 And Mystic Saiyan Gohan Fit In Right Here
Kid buu Is 3rd in Power
Super buu is 4th And Matched With SS3 Gotenks.
Fat buu is 5th
You Can’t Argue With “Kabito Kai” Which Stated In The Anime And Confirmed By A Story About Kid buu.
“Kid Buu Is The Most powerful Form Of buu Yet."
Unfused
I’d Rather go by The Anime (Which is What Were Doing) Than Go By What You Or I think.
I Have Every DragonBall Z Dvd Uncut in My Closet I Have A Quick Reference At Any Time I need It, I Have Been A DragonBall Z Fan For 10 years And Theres Not Alot I Don’t Know When it Comes To The Anime.
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| 30 Nov 2007 03:34 pm |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 188 OFFLINE | Don’t You Also Remember Them Saying That Since The Fat Kai Was Absorbed Into Buu Making Him “Fat buu”... Buu’s Power Was being Restrained.. In Other Words “held Back” By The Fat Kai’s Innocence And Purity..
Super buu Still Had That Aspect Within Him... When goku And vegeta Removed That.. They Let Hell Loose And Kid buu Was Summoned.
The Most Powerful Form of The Unfused buu’s
Goku SS3 > Kid Buu > Super Buu > Fat Buu
Accepting My Fact’s Will Make Sense of The Movie “Wrath Of The Dragon” When Gotenks Couldn’t Defeat the Creature And Was the First To Fail And Then Mystic Gohan Tryed And Failed..
Finally Goku SS3 Put Him Down For Good.
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| 30 Nov 2007 04:45 pm |
The Clown Prince of Crime Rep: 20  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,792 OFFLINE | Anime is non-canon.
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| 30 Nov 2007 05:10 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 14  Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,449 OFFLINE | Well now what a predicament but Goku in the Anime say’s Gotenks can beat Buu, and an even stronger warrior than he would fight Fat Buu in 2 days time.
Now if this is true that means SSJ Gotenks is more powerful than Goku SSJ3 because Goku at the time dident know of this form, plus they train and in the anime admit they wernt half as strong as when they went in there.
Next Super Buu was way stronger than Fat Buu who Goku dousent even effect when they battle, it is safe to assume Goku would have died again had it continued due to Goku cant maintain this form for long, he also in the anime tells piccolo he might not have stood a chance against Fat Buu so he was pretty unsure on the subject takeing in the fact he showed no weakness in ther battle.
Next Gohan wooped Super Buu flawless when Goku fights Fat Buu he is being punched and blasted and cant hurt the creature at all, were as Gohan crushed Super Buu, next in the Anime he fights Gotenks Buu for a whole round actually hitting him and defending his shot’s when Goku fights Gotenks Buu he cant land a hit ongaurd and is seen getting pwned at every angle respectfuly so anime wise Gohan did better and dident suffer extream energy loss, also did you miss the part were Gohan freed himself from Gotenk’s Buu’s Cosmic Halo and avoided his Kamehameha???, i always thought that was impressive.
Another consept is Kid Buu is always said to be the most Dangerouse Buu not the strongest in most forms of Content and is backed by the simple fact Goku wanted to resort to Fushion to battle Super Buu as he told Vegeta that he would kill both of them if they faced him, yet against Kid Buu they are confident in their ability to defeat Kid Buu and arnt worried about useing Fushion in the least
As for that last movie were did Shenlong come from a being who cant even kill Android 18 yet was able to bind and destroy Headrigarn, and Gohan pointed out Headrigarn’s weakness to Goku his tail (witch he noticed from a previouse Battle with him), alot of things seemed off in that movie???
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| 30 Nov 2007 05:14 pm |
Ace of 'Nades Rep: 60  Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 15,841 OFFLINE | Goku, in SSJ2 form, can complete every song on DDR with a perfect score before the game turns on.
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| 30 Nov 2007 08:11 pm |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 188 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
Anime is non-canon.
Thats The Idea, There Are More People Who Watch The Anime Goku And Idolize Him Over The Manga Counterpart.
Kyle Knight wrote:
Well now what a predicament but Goku in the Anime say’s Gotenks can beat Buu, and an even stronger warrior than he would fight Fat Buu in 2 days time.
Now if this is true that means SSJ Gotenks is more powerful than Goku SSJ3 because Goku at the time dident know of this form, plus they train and in the anime admit they wernt half as strong as when they went in there.
Next Super Buu was way stronger than Fat Buu who Goku dousent even effect when they battle, it is safe to assume Goku would have died again had it continued due to Goku cant maintain this form for long, he also in the anime tells piccolo he might not have stood a chance against Fat Buu so he was pretty unsure on the subject takeing in the fact he showed no weakness in ther battle.
Next Gohan wooped Super Buu flawless when Goku fights Fat Buu he is being punched and blasted and cant hurt the creature at all, were as Gohan crushed Super Buu, next in the Anime he fights Gotenks Buu for a whole round actually hitting him and defending his shot’s when Goku fights Gotenks Buu he cant land a hit ongaurd and is seen getting pwned at every angle respectfuly so anime wise Gohan did better and dident suffer extream energy loss, also did you miss the part were Gohan freed himself from Gotenk’s Buu’s Cosmic Halo and avoided his Kamehameha???, i always thought that was impressive.
Another consept is Kid Buu is always said to be the most Dangerouse Buu not the strongest in most forms of Content and is backed by the simple fact Goku wanted to resort to Fushion to battle Super Buu as he told Vegeta that he would kill both of them if they faced him, yet against Kid Buu they are confident in their ability to defeat Kid Buu and arnt worried about useing Fushion in the least
As for that last movie were did Shenlong come from a being who cant even kill Android 18 yet was able to bind and destroy Headrigarn, and Gohan pointed out Headrigarn’s weakness to Goku his tail (witch he noticed from a previouse Battle with him), alot of things seemed off in that movie???
Goku Says Gotenks Is More Powerful to Catch Buu’s Interests And Too Keep Him From Destroying The Planet.
Note: Gotenks Had Never Been Tryed At the Momment, his Power Was Totally Speculative.
Note 2: Goku Saw Gotenks In SS3 And Said “Wow There Power Is Amazing.. then Supreme Kai Asked “Is Gotenks Stronger Than You” And Goku Replied “Well I Can Do it To”
This Lack of Enthusiasm Is A Given..
Goku SS3 > Gotenks SS3
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Goku Doesn’t Effect Fat Buu because He Doesnt Intend On Beating Him Only Stalling Him Long enough for Trunks To Get the Radar... And Later Goku SAYS the Following “I Could Have beaten Buu But I Wanted Goten And Trunks To Have A Chance”
Something Along Those Lines.
Gokus SS3 > Fat Buu
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No “KabitoKai” Said That Kid buu Was The Most Powerful Of The Unfused Forms.
Which Means Goku is More Powerful Than Kid Buu Because He States This “I Could Have Defeated Him But I Wanted You To Have A Chance Vegeta”
Goku SS3 > Kid Buu > Gotenks SS3 = Super Buu > Fat buu.
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number One Shenron Did Not Beat Hirudagarn It Was Gokus “SUPER DRAGON FIST” Totally Different Entity. I Have The Movie
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Anymore Questions?
Were All Friends Here So I’d Be Happy To Have At them.
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| 30 Nov 2007 08:32 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 8  Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 2,665 OFFLINE | Actually, Kibito Kai said that he was the most destrcutive, which was also stated in the manga, the most destructive, mindless, phycotic thinge evr. Oh and to top it off, he doesn' get tired of using Ki :/ he was, say, reborn and as soon as he was, he blows up the Eearth for the hell of it.
Unles you’re using the english version, which I haven’t seen yet. (just up to the cell games and the final episode of DBZ) not the complete Buu saga.
If so, that is like saying you’re using a Non Canon (anime) of a Non Canon (english Sub).
Lol, this topic should be intresting.
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| 30 Nov 2007 08:35 pm |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 188 OFFLINE | Like I Said At the Title “This Is For People Who Stay True To The Anime And Not Manga. This Includes All DragonBall & DragonBall Z Episodes And Movies (Fillers Included).
Since I Was Speaking In English i thought Maybe I Wouldn’t Have To Say Otherwise But Ok Here It Goes..
Its In English Uncut. My Dvds Have The Original Japanese Uncut As Well I’ll Find Out By Tomorrow And Post.
P.S. Destructive Does not Mean “Self Destructive” As In Mindless And Rageful It Means Capable Of Enhanced Destruction.
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| 30 Nov 2007 08:49 pm |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 188 OFFLINE | HERE IS A QUOTE FROM THE BACK OF THE DVD
EPISODE: END OF EARTH
QUOTE: “After The Chords Of Attachment To Buu Are Severed By vegeta, Majin buu Is Expected To Mutate Into A Much Weaker Form. BUT INSTEAD HE GETS EVEN STRONGER! This Baffles Everyone But Kibito Kai, who Discloses Majin Buu’s Bizarre History! And Who Is The First Victim Of This New Demonic Buu?... Mother Earth Herself!
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| 30 Nov 2007 09:29 pm |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 188 OFFLINE | In English Quote (During The Story of Kid Buu’s Past):
Kabito Kai:
“In A Sense “Dai Kaio” Not Only Saved My Life that Day but The whole Universe As Well, Because It Was His innocence And Purity That Transformed A Killing Machine into The Happy frolicking buu..."
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Old Kai:
“Now I Finally Get It They Weakened him... Yes, When he Absorbed The Kai’s,... Of course It Brought His Power Down, I Thought The Opposite Was True."
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Kabiti Kai:
“Exactly, THIS BUU IS EVEN MORE POWERFUL And Without The Influence Of The Kai’s Goodness Inside Of Him He’s Evil, Pure Unrestrained Evil."
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This Proves The Following...
(Fused Buu’s) > (Kid Buu) > (SUPER BUU) > (Fat Buu)
Now All You Have To Do Is Place GokuSS3/Gohan Mystic/ And Gotenks SS3 Into This.. Which is Simple...
Fact 1: Goku SS3 Stated He Could Have Defeated Kid Buu but Wanted Vegeta To Have A Turn..
Fact 2: Gotenks SS3 Stated He Matched Super Buu Evenly And Was Weaker Than “Mystic Gohan”.
Fact 3: Mystic Gohan Got His Ass Handed To Him By (Buu With Gotenks Absorbed), Goku SS3 On The Other Hand Did A Bit Better Of A job..
And If You Watched The Movie “Wrath of the Dragon”
Goku Is Shown As Stronger Than Mystic Gohan Who Is Obviously Stronger Than Gotenks SS3..
The End
GOKU SS3 > Mystic Gohan > Kid Buu > Gotenks SS3 = Super Buu > Fat Buu.
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| 01 Dec 2007 05:32 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 44  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 9,352 OFFLINE | Yah... SSJ3 Goku surpassing Mystic Gohan at Wrath of the dragon...
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| 01 Dec 2007 11:33 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 8  Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 2,665 OFFLINE | Thats true, Goku DID surpass Gohan vs the Dragon, as he was able to beat him.
Fact 1: Goku SS3 Stated He Could Have Defeated Kid Buu but Wanted Vegeta To Have A Turn..
Actually, this was never stated.
HERE IS A QUOTE FROM THE BACK OF THE DVD
EPISODE: END OF EARTH
QUOTE: “After The Chords Of Attachment To Buu Are Severed By vegeta, Majin buu Is Expected To Mutate Into A Much Weaker Form. BUT INSTEAD HE GETS EVEN STRONGER! This Baffles Everyone But Kibito Kai, who Discloses Majin Buu’s Bizarre History! And Who Is The First Victim Of This New Demonic Buu?... Mother Earth Herself!
Thats the exact same quote as the one on the DBZ page lol.
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| 01 Dec 2007 12:45 pm |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 188 OFFLINE | Pete da Beast This Was Said In the Kid Buu Saga
“Goku SS3 Stated He Could Have Defeated Kid Buu but Wanted Vegeta To Have A Turn.."
I Can Dig Thru And Find It For You but I’d Rather not but I guess I have To Don’t I Lol.
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| 01 Dec 2007 01:20 pm |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 188 OFFLINE | Here is the exact quote:
Vegeta: “Kakarot”
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Goku: “Hey We’ll Switch In A Little While Ok, I Still Have Some Fight Left In Me."
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Vegeta: “Heh, I Know You Don’t Intend To Switch You Can’t Fool Me, Come on You Know Better Than Anyone, I Don’t Stand A Chance Against Buu At This Level, He’d Tear Me Apart."
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Goku: “What No You’d Do Fine”
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Vegeta: “Mmm Hmm Don’t Give Me That, I Know What Your Trying To Do Kakarot So Forget It, I Fought Him I’ve Had My Chance, I Know The Truth He’s Stronger Than Me You Know That."
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Goku: “Vegeta!?"
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Vegeta: “Go Get Him, Don’t You Worry About Me Your A Super Saiyan 3, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GENERATE MORE THAN ENOUGH POWER TO DESTROY THAT MONSTER.“
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Goku: “WELL, MAYBE I COULD HAVE DONE IT WHEN I WAS FRESH, BUT I LET THE FIGHT DRAG ON SO YOU COULD HAVE A SHOT.“
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Vegeta: “Huh!!"
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Goku: “I SHOULD HAVE DONE IT... DARN IT!!!“
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There You Go!
SO.. With The Above Quotes That I Have Given, You Should be Able To Deduce The Following.
Super Saiyan 3 Goku > Mystic Saiyan Gohan > Kid Buu > Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks = Super Buu > Fat Buu
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