Kyle Knight wrote:
1. Im awear overall Goku could have probably beat Fat Buu but this mean’s 2 thing’s,
a, Goku would have to raise his power to eliminate Fat Buu (and he can come back from less than air molicules) would he have the time and energy in his ristricted form...i dunno.
b, Gohan would clearly be stronger due to toying with a much strongerfoe without trying.
2. It shows Buu was still learning and improveing and even in Goku’s most intence level of power Buu was haveing the time of his life, it go’s along way to showing Buu wasnt even close to death with all those attack’s
3. Gohan toyed with Buu remember in his Episode a whole new Gohan he knocks Buu on his ass and say’s “you can get up now, i know your not hurt not from an attack like that” this shows restraint by Gohan, he also smashes Buu to the floor andis behind him without him noticeing instead of killing him he say’s “pst behind you, hi nice day” to me these arnt the actions of someone trying to kill someone.
a, Gohan uses no beam attacks/Goku douse this shows Gohan dident wanna vaporize Buu, and Goku (who wasnt sure of the extent of Buu’s power) was seeing what he could take.
4. Nahhh Buu was still improveing all the time Goku said “mabe he could have” “mabe not” he knew about the energy loss and time restriction on his body and to beat Buu is uncertain with his regeneration.
5. here are thing’s your forgetting
a, Fat Buu was weakened by Evil Buu when they split
b, Goku said he pobably could beat Kid Buu
c, He couldent reach his max output in power
d, Kid Buu was uneffected by any of Goku’s attacks
e, Kid Buu fought Goku 2wice Vegeta 3 times and Fat Buu, not to mention fought for control of the SSB witch Goku got full power back for...
6. Actually in other world SSJ3 was easy in the liveing he told Vegeta his body chugs abit and its alot harder to maintain.
you may pick the next argument for Goku if you wish, and thanks for being open about this alot of people seem to have trouble accepting new idea’s and aspects (ULXR) and you suddenly become a fanboy aparently.
Lets get Past The below Before We Continue With The Gohan Facts.
Concerning Kid Buu:
PROVING “KID BUU” AS THE STRONGEST FORM OF BUU UNFUSED
Kabito Kai:
“In A Sense “Dai Kaio” Not Only Saved My Life that Day but The whole Universe As Well, Because It Was His innocence And Purity That Transformed A Killing Machine into The Happy frolicking buu..."
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Old Kai:
“Now I Finally Get It They Weakened him... Yes, When he Absorbed The Kai’s,... Of course It Brought His Power Down, I Thought The Opposite Was True."
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Kabiti Kai:
“Exactly, THIS BUU IS EVEN MORE POWERFUL And Without The Influence Of The Kai’s Goodness Inside Of Him He’s Evil, Pure Unrestrained Evil."
You See Any Form That Had A Kai in It Was Weaker Than Kid Buu Having no More Restrictions.
This Includes Fat Buu/ Evil Buu/ Super Buu/ The Hulking Form
Vegeta: “Kakarot”
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Goku: “Hey We’ll Switch In A Little While Ok, I Still Have Some Fight Left In Me."
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Vegeta: “Heh, I Know You Don’t Intend To Switch You Can’t Fool Me, Come on You Know Better Than Anyone, I Don’t Stand A Chance Against Buu At This Level, He’d Tear Me Apart."
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Goku: “What No You’d Do Fine”
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Vegeta: “Mmm Hmm Don’t Give Me That, I Know What Your Trying To Do Kakarot So Forget It, I Fought Him I’ve Had My Chance, I Know The Truth He’s Stronger Than Me You Know That."
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Goku: “Vegeta!?"
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Vegeta: “Go Get Him, Don’t You Worry About Me Your A Super Saiyan 3, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GENERATE MORE THAN ENOUGH POWER TO DESTROY THAT MONSTER."
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Goku: “WELL, MAYBE I COULD HAVE DONE IT WHEN I WAS FRESH, BUT I LET THE FIGHT DRAG ON SO YOU COULD HAVE A SHOT."
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Vegeta: “Huh!!"
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Goku: “I SHOULD HAVE DONE IT... DARN IT!!!“
You See If Goku Says “I SHOULD HAVE DONE IT... DARN IT!!!" Is Proof That Goku Could Have Taken Kid buu..
Now If Goku Could have Taken Kid Buu Who As An Individual Is Stronger Than Super Buu and Super Buu Being Equal To Fat Buu Then You Should Know That If Goku Tried Against Fat Buu He Would Have Been The Victor.
We Know That Kid Buu Is Stronger Than Super buu By What The Kais Said About The Weaking of Kid buu Because His Absorbtion of The Kai’s Meaning More Than one.. This Includes The Hulking form He Got From The Strongest South Kai And The Fat Form From Dai Kaio The Leader. — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
This Is Undeniable Proof Of 2 Things..
1) Kid Buus Superiority To the Other Unfused Buus.
2) And Gokus Superiority To Kid Buu.
Placing Gotenks In here Is not Hard because He Stated That He Was Weaker Than gohan And Equal To Super buu.
So So Far It Looks Like This.
Goku SS3 > Kid Buu > Gotenks SS3 = Super Buu = Fat buu
Now What We Are Trying to do Is Place Gohan Which is Not Proving To be Easy. So if We Could Focus On just Gohan It Would Be A Bit Easier.
So If You Could Verify If You Agree With:
Goku SS3 > Kid Buu > Gotenks SS3 = Super Buu = Fat buu
We Can Both Focus On Gohan And This Is Where I am most open minded (On the Topic Of Gohan).
I Just Had To get Gokus Placement out Of The Way.
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Lathen Hide wrote:
Yea it did seem weird that Goku was haveing trouble with Buu despite holding back, yet Gohan was mopping the floor with a much stronger Buu...
Your both useing too types of argument,
1. TheUltimateSaiyanBroly is useing Quotes witch are said fact’s witch arnt really facts just assumptions and opinion.
2. Kyle is useing the flow of the battle, as in how it went down to logicaly formulate who is stronger (and i have to say im impressed).
I alway’s thought Goku would beat Fat Buu flawlessly, but after watching the show and following Kyle’s little guide it became apparent, that Goku may not have been able to beat the beast, i mean he did all that and never slowed Buu down never tired him out and he was hungry for more...thats how it went down.
Now after this Goku only maneges to go SSJ3 for about ten seconds for Goten and Trunks as a demonstration this uses his final half hour in seconds, now i dunno about you but its like Mr Knight said the probability Goku could take down Buu is a narrow one at that.
I think as Kyle douse time and energy were huge factors of the fight along with Buu’s regeneration, if Goku builds his energy to take Buu down his time in that form is cut surverely and without SSJ3 Goku loses plain and simple.
No hard feeling’s TheUltimateSaiyanBroly thats just how i feel the battle would play out, Goku going all out is speculation at best really, however if you find anything with Akira Toriyama’s veiw then that is the word of God my freind and is undebateable.
Come to think of it i have a detailed report of his talking about all this lol, im sure he go’s on to say he had alway’s had plan’s to make Gohan the strongest in the series lol or something like that so i dunno ill find it out and post it out kk.
So i dunno about the battle of the Buu’s but im pretty sure Gohan who exert’s no energy or strain and isnt bound by time restriction’s is alot stronger than Goku...but Goku hold’s the edge in skill im assumeing.
tata
This is all bullshit I’ve refutd, you guys just restate speculation which I’ve already taken care of. Goku pwns Gohan, it’s as simple as that...
Ta ta suckas...
As i thought, it’s beyond you to make a decent argument, suckas lol why do you never surprise me
You mean when I refuted u in every single goku vs. Gohan thread and you got pwned so bad u never replied to any of my arguements? HA! Get ur facts straight, bud...
Direct quote: Damn! I wanted to see this SSJ3 up close... So the battle for the fate of the universe begins. Goku you are glorious. This creature is far behind my power. Only you can beat him. First I used to think that protecting people created some unfathomable power in you, but I have that reason now too. But I kill to boost my pride. You never killed your enemies, just fought them to push your limits and get stronger and stronger. That’s why you didn’t kill me either. I should hate you. A saiyan who loves to fight AND is kind? A fighting as well? Good luck, Kakkarot. You are the champ!
Direct quote: Man, I didn’t know the Patora were so powerful. Buu’s helpless!
Dolt. Those 2 have the power. The two greatest masters of the living AND the dead
Direct quote: Hmm, I wonder if Goku can win this...
Don’t worry. My dad can beat ANYBODY - he’s the strongest guy alive! Just watch him beat that genie.
Heh, true. Goku never ceases to amaze me.
Want some scans as well, buddy?
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Vegeta held his own against Fat Buu, something that DESTROYED SSJ2 Gohan and Kaio-Shin at the same time...
The only thing that saved FB was regeneration or it would have been screwed...
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Follow so far?
Vegeta had to use Babidi’s powerup just to EQUALIZE with SSJ2 Goku AND he was STILL weaker/less talented than Goku was...
Goku SSJ3 FAR outstrips SSJ2 Goku...
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You follow?
Now Fat Buu is Super Buu in power, just more skilled and a lot smarter...
Why? Because Fat Buu split into 2 equal parts, Fat Buu and Evil Buu but the thin one was more skilled at fighting and smarter so he overcame his other half even though they had equal power.
Now the thin one eats the fat one and in a sense “refuses” with him...
How on Earth is he STRONGER? It’s just the same guy but cooler, with a better body, more skillz, and brainpower...
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Follow as of yet?
Gotenks SSJ3 at full power is equal to this sucker but Goku destroyed him without even trying.
Gohan disposed of him pretty easily but that wasn’t that far above of Vegeta. This proves that Gohan is more powerful than Gotenks is all.
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Follow...?
Now for KB... This guy was SO strong and MENTAL that even Super Buu didn’t wanna come to this stage...
Now Kaio-Shin expresses much more fear than he had after seeing Fat Buu and Super Buu upon seeing Kid Buu.
They wanna fight, the elder Kai did not suggest fusion to fight Fat buu and Super Buu but he gives them ANOTHER set of Patora to destroy Kid Buu...
This is where Vegeta swaallows his pride and in the manga, yes in the MANGA states that Goku is the only one who can defeat him, that he Vegeta would get slaughtered (the same one who took the “stronger” Fat Buu wtihout flinching) and that he was the champ...NOT Gohan or Gotenks...
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Vegeto >>>>>> Mystic Buu >>>>>>> Gotenks/Piccolo Buu >>>>SSJ3 Goku > Kid Buu >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mystic Gohan >>>>>>>> Super Buu = SSJ3 Gotenks = Fat Buu >>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ2 Goku > SSJ2 Vegeta >>> SSJ2 Gohan >> Evil Buu = Mr. Buu
Omg...still in denial...
Wanna know something?
The term called who’s daddy was coined...
When SSJ3 Goku pimp slapped Gohan so hard that he flew into orbit, circled the Sun, then came back to Earth!
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You know what, this is my ace in the hole... There is evidence that throughout the Buu saga, Goku’s trys to draw out Gohan and Gotenk’s power. He encourages them to fight and lets them fight the biggest threat alive at that time. Fat Buu was too strong for either at that time so he pwned him. But he practically MADE Gotenks fight Super Buu and entrusted Gohan with everyone’s lives now that him and Vegeta were dead. That shows Gohan was capable of taking on Super Buu and the most powerful Z fighter (alive) He left his legacy and honor to Gohan. But Kid Buu scared him, he knew even Gohan wouldn’t stand a chance anyways so he LET HIM DIE AND SAVED THE WORTHLESS MR.SATAN AND A DOG over him, Trunks, Goten and Piccolo. He WANTS to draw out his son’s power sure, but he knows when he is in over his head. He let Gohan fight Cell since he was confident Gohan could win but he never thought Cell would transform into SPC. Same here, he didn’t know Super Buu had an even more powerful and even MORE dangerous form: Kid Buu. Then when he has no energy left, Vegeta’s drained, Mr. Buu’s at the brink of death - he suggests to get BOTH Gohan and Gotenks and for them to HELP us. If he fought Kid Buu on par ALONE, and Gohan was actually stronger - he wouldn’t risk his son’s life (especialy one who had died already before and was only 7 years old) to HELP his “stronger” big brother AND the rest. Why would he want to help his son, if he had almost no energy, his man Vegeta was almost dead and the noble Mr. buu was nearly screwed as well unless he knew even Gohan AND Gotenks fighting Kid Buu alongside with their almost completely wasted friends/family was a LOST cause. Goku alone could do MUCH more - not even at his max or peak so he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. Gohan.
Thx ULXR Its Hard To Remember All The Quotes But I Used The Ones I Could Remember. All this Proves Is What I Thought To be True. Oh And Now That I Remember Yea Super Buu is = To Fat buu.. Man.. Now I Remember Piccolo Saying The Following : Now he’s Almost Completely Evil.. He Never Says More powerful Like They Do For Kid Buu.
Vegeto >>>>>> Mystic Buu >>>>>>> Gotenks/Piccolo Buu >>>>SSJ3 Goku > Kid Buu >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mystic Gohan >>>>>>>> Super Buu = SSJ3 Gotenks = Fat Buu >>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ2 Goku > SSJ2 Vegeta >>> SSJ2 Gohan >> Evil Buu = Mr. Buu
Is Correct Only All We Had To Do To Prove It Was Say: Haven’t You Seen “Wrath Of The Dragon”
Another Thing You Can Add Is When Gohan Got A Costume Change By Kabito Kai And Gohan Specifically Asked For Gokus Attire Because: “My Dad is The Greatest Warrior Ever"
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Goku tells Vegeta Super Buu would kill both of them and when Super Buu fights them he say’s “it seem’s you lack the power to destroy me..., next Goku was willing to use Fushion to defeat Super Buu and wasnt against Kid Buu.
This is more than enough to surgest Super Buu over Kid Buu without going into Intelligence differances, (Super Buu says it best “a good fighter knows his pysical and mental limitations, were as a great fighter will figure a way around them” and he did Kid Buu was respectfully a dumb creature who played with Goku and Vegeta instead of killing them.
My last point is Goku was so worried about fighting Super Buu...if he were as you say truely as powerful as Gohan and knew he had that much power over Super Buu he would not have been worried at all (he would know he could end the conflict at any given time) not state Buu could kill them both.
TheUltimateSaiyanBroly wrote:
Thx ULXR Its Hard To Remember All The Quotes But I Used The Ones I Could Remember. All this Proves Is What I Thought To be True. Oh And Now That I Remember Yea Super Buu is = To Fat buu.. Man.. Now I Remember Piccolo Saying The Following : Now he’s Almost Completely Evil.. He Never Says More powerful Like They Do For Kid Buu.
Vegeto >>>>>> Mystic Buu >>>>>>> Gotenks/Piccolo Buu >>>>SSJ3 Goku > Kid Buu >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mystic Gohan >>>>>>>> Super Buu = SSJ3 Gotenks = Fat Buu >>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ2 Goku > SSJ2 Vegeta >>> SSJ2 Gohan >> Evil Buu = Mr. Buu
Is Correct Only All We Had To Do To Prove It Was Say: Haven’t You Seen “Wrath Of The Dragon”
Another Thing You Can Add Is When Gohan Got A Costume Change By Kabito Kai And Gohan Specifically Asked For Gokus Attire Because: “My Dad is The Greatest Warrior Ever”
Lathen Hide wrote:
Goku tells Vegeta Super Buu would kill both of them and when Super Buu fights them he say’s “it seem’s you lack the power to destroy me..., next Goku was willing to use Fushion to defeat Super Buu and wasnt against Kid Buu.
Where the hell did you get the fact that he was “weaker”? He wasn’t willing, all he said was it would be easier... And Goku would never team on 1 guy anyway... Yeah sure he’s scared to fight Super Buu alone when he was ready to go head to head with Gotenks Buu...
Lathen Hide wrote:
This is more than enough to surgest Super Buu over Kid Buu without going into Intelligence differances, (Super Buu says it best “a good fighter knows his pysical and mental limitations, were as a great fighter will figure a way around them” and he did Kid Buu was respectfully a dumb creature who played with Goku and Vegeta instead of killing them.
You’re on crack, he only played with Hercule, Buu and Vegeta but Goku. And while Super Buu would have gone all out (and lost) against Goku, Kid Buu held back because Goku wasn’t at his max signifying Kid Buu is far above Super Buu.
Lathen Hide wrote:
My last point is Goku was so worried about fighting Super Buu...if he were as you say truely as powerful as Gohan and knew he had that much power over Super Buu he would not have been worried at all (he would know he could end the conflict at any given time) not state Buu could kill them both.
This is where I know you didn’t read my post. READ...
Vegeta ain’t gonna let ANYONE fight for him so Goku couldn’t haved soloed and Vegeta would have done something dumb if he fought alone. There was no way they would team on him... Besides Vegeta was pissed at Goku adn they were both in SSJ1 anyway...
Technically Brolys Power Doesnt HAve Limits.. So He Could Become As Strong As He Needs To Be To beat Anyone.. On The Other Hand If You Take How Strong He Was When he Fought Super Saiyan Goku, Super Saiyan Vegeta, Super Saiyan Gohan, Super Saiyan Future Trunks, And, Super namek Piccolo And Considering They All Got There Ass Kicked And Healed Up And Got There Ass Kicked Again And Then Gave There Energy To Goku And Almost Got There Ass Kicked AGAIN Well You Could Say Alot.
But In the End Broly is Limitless. After All He Is The Legendary Super Saiyan.
And The Fact that He’s A Saiyan Says That He’s Probably not Limited To Just The One “Legendary Super Saiyan” Form.. Who Knows
Haveing Limitless Power Could bring Him To Legendary Super Saiyan 2
And Then On To Legendary Super Saiyan 3 And So On Within A Few Days Perhaps.
Seems Funimation Had To Kill Off The Character And Keep Him Only In Movies Because His Power Was So Great And Unlimited In The Potential Department.
But If Your Only Going By How Strong He Was In the Movies... And Not COunting His Unlimited Potential Then I’d Say At That point In Time A Super Saiyan 2 Could Beat Him. — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
+1 ULXR
It Seems No one Is On Our Level, They All Jump To Hypothetical Conclusions.
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Lathen Hide wrote:
Goku tells Vegeta Super Buu would kill both of them and when Super Buu fights them he say’s “it seem’s you lack the power to destroy me..., next Goku was willing to use Fushion to defeat Super Buu and wasnt against Kid Buu.
Where the hell did you get the fact that he was “weaker”? He wasn’t willing, all he said was it would be easier... And Goku would never team on 1 guy anyway... Yeah sure he’s scared to fight Super Buu alone when he was ready to go head to head with Gotenks Buu...
Goku wanted to fuse for permanent with Gohan against Gotenks Buu..., and when Buu said “you clearly have no idea of the power i have just aquired, i could crush both of you” Goku litteraly craps himself begging for more time he dident want any of it, and Gohan actually fought this guy on par for awhile...
Lathen Hide wrote:
This is more than enough to surgest Super Buu over Kid Buu without going into Intelligence differances, (Super Buu says it best “a good fighter knows his pysical and mental limitations, were as a great fighter will figure a way around them” and he did Kid Buu was respectfully a dumb creature who played with Goku and Vegeta instead of killing them.
You’re on crack, he only played with Hercule, Buu and Vegeta but Goku. And while Super Buu would have gone all out (and lost) against Goku, Kid Buu held back because Goku wasn’t at his max signifying Kid Buu is far above Super Buu.
how do you work that out, Goku had no effect what so ever on Kid Buu after trying 2wice and he had Vegeta there and Fat Buu (the same one Goku had trouble with in the first place) and all three had their asses handed to them.
Kid Buu wooped Vegeta SSJ2 big deal Fat Buu did that lol, and SSJ Gotenks could destroy Fat Buu when he wasnt weakened by Evil Grey Buu who also owned Fat Buu..., SSJ3 Gotenks was on pr with Super Buu and even still ran out of powe before he could take him down.
Goku even said Gotenks was stronger than he was to Fat Buu, and this is before he trained and attained SSJ3, then we have Gohan who solo’s Super Buu without any trouble what so ever, the Same Buu who Goku wanted to fuse to beat and said would kill him and Vegeta yet when they face Kid Buu they say they dont need Fushion.
Sure they fought Super Buu in SSJ but they got pwned together, and they even tried that against Mystic Buu and failed (and he’s many times stronger than Kid Buu).
Goku’s Efforts:
But i seem to remember Goku takeing on Kid Buu in SSJ2 who is = too Vegeta SSJ2 who lost to Fat Buu when he used every scrape of energy he had and couldent beat him...and Super Buu rapes Fat Buu who is again raped by Mystic Gohan...
Lathen Hide wrote:
My last point is Goku was so worried about fighting Super Buu...if he were as you say truely as powerful as Gohan and knew he had that much power over Super Buu he would not have been worried at all (he would know he could end the conflict at any given time) not state Buu could kill them both.
This is where I know you didn’t read my post. READ...
Vegeta ain’t gonna let ANYONE fight for him so Goku couldn’t haved soloed and Vegeta would have done something dumb if he fought alone. There was no way they would team on him... Besides Vegeta was pissed at Goku and they were both in SSJ1 anyway...
lmao Goku surgested the Fushion too Vegeta it was his idea because he said Buu would kill them both if they fought now, they tried SSJ against Mystic Buu also and failed misarably and he’s much stronger than all the Buu’s lol, and finaly Goku and Vegeta felt they dident need fushion to beat Kid Buu and Goku was able to fight Kid Buu in SSJ2.
We Know That Kid Buu Is Stronger Than Super Buu By What The Kais Said About The Weakening of Kid buu Because His Absorption of The Kai’s Meaning More Than one.. This Includes The Hulking form He Got From The Strongest South Kai And The Fat Form From Dai Kaio The Leader. And Super Buu... And this Is Proof That Your System Is Not Correct.
If Goku Had Used SS3, Super buu Would Be Toast.
Gokus Admits That Had He Started With The Intent To Destroy Kid buu It Would Have taken Place, But of Course Goku Wanted Vegeta To have A Shot Because He’s Such A Nice Guy.. And Wasted His Precious Energy Sparing With Kid Buu In SS2 Then When They Started Fighting Seriously In SS3 Goku Was Drained.
The Funny Thing Is When Gohan Went To Save The Day Piccolo couldn’t Figure Out If The Enormous Power Was Goku Or Not. This Proves That There power Isnt All That Different.
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Technically Brolys Power Doesnt HAve Limits.. So He Could Become As Strong As He Needs To Be To beat Anyone.. On The Other Hand If You Take How Strong He Was When he Fought Super Saiyan Goku, Super Saiyan Vegeta, Super Saiyan Gohan, Super Saiyan Future Trunks, And, Super namek Piccolo And Considering They All Got There Ass Kicked And Healed Up And Got There Ass Kicked Again And Then Gave There Energy To Goku And Almost Got There Ass Kicked AGAIN Well You Could Say Alot.
But In the End Broly is Limitless. After All He Is The Legendary Super Saiyan.
And The Fact that He’s A Saiyan Says That He’s Probably not Limited To Just The One “Legendary Super Saiyan” Form.. Who Knows
Haveing Limitless Power Could bring Him To Legendary Super Saiyan 2
And Then On To Legendary Super Saiyan 3 And So On Within A Few Days Perhaps.
Seems Funimation Had To Kill Off The Character And Keep Him Only In Movies Because His Power Was So Great And Unlimited In The Potential Department.
But If Your Only Going By How Strong He Was In the Movies... And Not COunting His Unlimited Potential Then I’d Say At That point In Time A Super Saiyan 2 Could Beat Him.
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If Brolly reach SSJ2 and SSJ3... I bet he can take care All DC’s Characters... ALONE... Including to that Anti Monitor and Darkseid... Well... That is why he was in the movie... for us the movie shows the true power of saiyans...
But for superman fans they just non cannon...
I bet SSJ1 Brolly can take Superman with ease...
Take out entire Galaxies by himself in less than 5 seconds... (Torn apart)...
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We Know That Kid Buu Is Stronger Than Super Buu By What The Kais Said About The Weakening of Kid buu Because His Absorption of The Kai’s Meaning More Than one.. This Includes The Hulking form He Got From The Strongest South Kai And The Fat Form From Dai Kaio The Leader. And Super Buu... And this Is Proof That Your System Is Not Correct.
If Goku Had Used SS3, Super buu Would Be Toast.
Gokus Admits That Had He Started With The Intent To Destroy Kid buu It Would Have taken Place, But of Course Goku Wanted Vegeta To have A Shot Because He’s Such A Nice Guy.. And Wasted His Precious Energy Sparing With Kid Buu In SS2 Then When They Started Fighting Seriously In SS3 Goku Was Drained.
The Funny Thing Is When Gohan Went To Save The Day Piccolo couldn’t Figure Out If The Enormous Power Was Goku Or Not. This Proves That There power Isnt All That Different.
LMAO i watched that episode with Supream Kia talking about Kid Buu’s power lol, he ment Di Kioa’s inoccence weakened Kid Buu’s evil so he was more ordained to do good rather than evil nothing about his strenth...
(This explains how the Buu system of power works please read for yourself).
1. Your depending on quotes over what happened...Goku could fight Kid Buu in SSJ2 when he never even dared to try this against the origenal Majin Buu, and as we have been through he already had tried SSJ3 in a more tolirable body and couldent do a dam thing to Majin Buu so whats the differance here.
A, Fat Buu he held back did nothing
B, Kid Buu he held back did nothing
Now the facts in both battles are, Fat Buu lost his power to Evil Grey Buu and was floored easy correct it happened, the same weakened Fat Buu fought Kid Buu and got a few hits in and lasted for a good while so what douse this prove.
A, Grey Buu completely beats Fat Buu no question
B, Kid Buu beats the crap out of him is hit and takes time to finaly beat him.
Then we get to Super Buu who likely because of facts given beat Fat Buu in a few short punches, and he was way more intelligent to boot actually useing his powers to climb higher when his own hit a brick wall...Kid Buu was well just dumb really and seeked only to destroy and cause vast amounts of pain with no morality witch again i think gave him the title the Most Dangerouse Buu of them all (or atleast unstable lol).
Finaly Goku holding back is getting alittle bit boreing so let me see...
a, He wanted to use fushion on Super Buu not Kid Buu showing he feared him worse.
b, Vegeta’s pride really wasnt an issue i mean he used SSJ3 on Kid Buu, he never tried with the others because what was the point he couldent win.
2. Yea Piccolo say’s he has never encountered a power like this its outrageously strong, so naturaly he placed it as Goku the nearest thing he had senced since Gohan was in his Doji and Goten and Trunks were with him.
But even tho he says this he still dousent want Gohan to confront Majin Buu meaning the energy he senced wasnt greater than Buu’s (even Buu laugh’s stateing he had already beaten Gohan before)...yet, however Gohan lets them have some insight into his true power when he powers up to fight buu and all are shocked even Buu (they dident dare dream he was this strong) and he picked Buu apart.
Power toll weakest to strongest:
The Buu’s:
Fat Buu-Kid Buu-Super Buu-Gotenks Buu-Mystic Buu
The Hero’s Toll weakest to strongest:
Vegeta SSJ2-Goku SSJ3-Gotenks SSJ3-Mystic Gohan
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“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog"
Ok guy’s this debate call’s for that third party that takes all into perspective and i really think it should be me i follow both charicters so ill start with some yes no questions ok (please give answer and reason why).
1. Goku is the most skilled fighter in DBZ and this sometimes allows him to fight on par with much stronger enemys. yes/no
2. Gohan has alotmore power than Goku but isnt quight as skilled. yes/no
3. Goku demonstrated he could not hurt Kid Buu or Fat Buu but his skill helped him go on par with them. yes/no
4. Goku held back the whole show and NEVER went allout? yes/no
5. Gohan was superior to Goku without energy loss and a time limit. yes/no
6. Goku could defeat Fat Buu and Kid Buu in an instant. yes/no
7. Kid Buu is the strongest Buu. yes/no
8. Fat Buu is stronger than an SSJ2. yes/no
9. Gohan held back on Super Buu. yes/no
10. Goku and Gohan are on the same level. yes/no
This should clear up alot of issue’s simple yes no quiz and why you belive that, then we will discuss answers peacefully, no name calling (ULXR lol) and please no spamming.
1. Yes i belive Goku is the most skilled and this helps him against stronger foe’s
2. yes Gohan isnt quight as skilled but has a shit load more power than his farther.
3. yes Goku could fight Kid Buu and Fat Buu due to his immence knollage in combat.
4. No i think Goku tried his ass of against Kid Buu but due to energy and time restraints had little effect.
5. yes Gohan dident suffer energy loss or have time restraints on his power.
6. No way dude Kid Buu was playing the whole time, and Fat Buu dident seem at all close to being defeated...Goku would have to use more power than an SSB to kill Kid Buu.
7. No only the most dangerouse and evil.
8. Yes as proved beating Vegeta...
9. Yes he could have killed him no problem but instead he playedwith him.
10. No in power Gohan is superior in Skill Goku has the edge.
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“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog"
Lathen Hide wrote:
Ok guy’s this debate call’s for that third party that takes all into perspective and i really think it should be me i follow both charicters so ill start with some yes no questions ok (please give answer and reason why).
1. Goku is the most skilled fighter in DBZ and this sometimes allows him to fight on par with much stronger enemys. yes/no
2. Gohan has alotmore power than Goku but isnt quight as skilled. yes/no
3. Goku demonstrated he could not hurt Kid Buu or Fat Buu but his skill helped him go on par with them. yes/no
4. Goku held back the whole show and NEVER went allout? yes/no
5. Gohan was superior to Goku without energy loss and a time limit. yes/no
6. Goku could defeat Fat Buu and Kid Buu in an instant. yes/no
7. Kid Buu is the strongest Buu. yes/no
8. Fat Buu is stronger than an SSJ2. yes/no
9. Gohan held back on Super Buu. yes/no
10. Goku and Gohan are on the same level. yes/no
This should clear up alot of issue’s simple yes no quiz and why you belive that, then we will discuss answers peacefully, no name calling (ULXR lol) and please no spamming.
1) Most Skilled And Most powerful (Besides Fusion)
2) At Most gohan Is = To Goku’s SS3 And He’s Less Experienced
3) Goku Demonstrated nothing so you must go by what they say.. and goku stated that he could have defeated kid buu who i proved is stronger than any unfused buu
4) not the whole show but vs fat buu and kid buu yes.. had he gone all out with kid buu.. he would have won and i proved this already.
5) the only thing gohan had over goku was his ability to stay in his mystic form for a longer amount of time.
6) if he tryed yes.
7) yes and its stated twice.. once by old kai and once on the back of the dvd.
8) perhaps but if he didnt have regeneration he would have died against vegeta ss2 who is = to gokus ss2. (Stated By goku)
9) no he made it quite clear that he intended to kill him.. though that was not the extent of gohans power.
10) its possible but if you know anything about the anime then perhaps you have seen “wrath of the dragon” goku is proved to be better than gohan in that movie.
Lathen Hide wrote:
Ok guy’s this debate call’s for that third party that takes all into perspective and i really think it should be me i follow both charicters so ill start with some yes no questions ok (please give answer and reason why).
1. Goku is the most skilled fighter in DBZ and this sometimes allows him to fight on par with much stronger enemys. yes/no
2. Gohan has alotmore power than Goku but isnt quight as skilled. yes/no
3. Goku demonstrated he could not hurt Kid Buu or Fat Buu but his skill helped him go on par with them. yes/no
4. Goku held back the whole show and NEVER went allout? yes/no
5. Gohan was superior to Goku without energy loss and a time limit. yes/no
6. Goku could defeat Fat Buu and Kid Buu in an instant. yes/no
7. Kid Buu is the strongest Buu. yes/no
8. Fat Buu is stronger than an SSJ2. yes/no
9. Gohan held back on Super Buu. yes/no
10. Goku and Gohan are on the same level. yes/no
This should clear up alot of issue’s simple yes no quiz and why you belive that, then we will discuss answers peacefully, no name calling (ULXR lol) and please no spamming.
1) Most Skilled And Most powerful (Besides Fusion)
2) At Most gohan Is = To Goku’s SS3 And He’s Less Experienced
3) Goku Demonstrated nothing so you must go by what they say.. and goku stated that he could have defeated kid buu who i proved is stronger than any unfused buu
4) not the whole show but vs fat buu and kid buu yes.. had he gone all out with kid buu.. he would have won and i proved this already.
5) the only thing gohan had over goku was his ability to stay in his mystic form for a longer amount of time.
6) if he tryed yes.
7) yes and its stated twice.. once by old kai and once on the back of the dvd.
8) perhaps but if he didnt have regeneration he would have died against vegeta ss2 who is = to gokus ss2. (Stated By goku)
9) no he made it quite clear that he intended to kill him.. though that was not the extent of gohans power.
10) its possible but if you know anything about the anime then perhaps you have seen “wrath of the dragon” goku is proved to be better than gohan in that movie.
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