master quigon jinn was a master, but vader, who is just an apprentice surpassed him... so basically, even if they are called masters, they are below vaders power...
Yes... But Qui Gon Jin, Kenobi and Windoe not stronger than Vader... but at the time when Anakin go to the dark side... they are more skilled in using force...
Vader stronger than anyone in Starwars except his own son...
But Sidious has mastered full or Dark Side and can launch lightinng bolt... but that doenst take any effect to him...
I go with Vader...
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“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster —
Exactly. Just like the Vader > Maul thing on the last page, some have more skill with the force, and greater power, while some have better lightsaber dueling skills. But Vader is still > than Maul.
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Sauron has wone the Master Chief vs Sauron debate.
so what, do we all agree that vader can kill megatron??? bcoz, he is the most talented... but sadly he was reduced to that walking asthmatic villain...
darth is siting in his death star minding his own bisness sudenly every thing is shaking he looks out side his window to see megatron nocking on his door to see if he can stay the night because it is cold out side now darth has a horible temper so he pulls out is light saber and throws it and megatron boy did that start a fight they start doking it out on the moon cause that is ware they landed wiyle they were fighting sudinly darh vader sees a shing light coming at him and BAM he is struck down by a roar of thunder
*there is no need to fear under dog is hear*
just like that under dog starts beting the shit out of darth he has no idea what hit him because well speed of lighing he then finly gets hold of underdog with a grip but then he is hit by lazer vishon and shhot to the ground fried to death and who swops in none othere then might mouse underdog and mightmouse then look at megatron they start there atack just then megatron eats a power bar but throws his trash on the ground the sun gose dark there is nothing but silence and then BAM he is hight in the head with a trash can as captin planet comes in then all three of them use there 3 best atacks roar of thunder heat vishon and that green ring that shoots that light that burns stuff they shoot megatron right at the death star and they both explode a huge pice the crashes down and smashes vader the 3 go home o so happy and there you go thats how it would be
darth is siting in his death star minding his own bisness sudenly every thing is shaking he looks out side his window to see megatron nocking on his door to see if he can stay the night because it is cold out side now darth has a horible temper so he pulls out is light saber and throws it and megatron boy did that start a fight they start doking it out on the moon cause that is ware they landed wiyle they were fighting sudinly darh vader sees a shing light coming at him and BAM he is struck down by a roar of thunder
*there is no need to fear under dog is hear*
just like that under dog starts beting the shit out of darth he has no idea what hit him because well speed of lighing he then finly gets hold of underdog with a grip but then he is hit by lazer vishon and shhot to the ground fried to death and who swops in none othere then might mouse underdog and mightmouse then look at megatron they start there atack just then megatron eats a power bar but throws his trash on the ground the sun gose dark there is nothing but silence and then BAM he is hight in the head with a trash can as captin planet comes in then all three of them use there 3 best atacks roar of thunder heat vishon and that green ring that shoots that light that burns stuff they shoot megatron right at the death star and they both explode a huge pice the crashes down and smashes vader the 3 go home o so happy and there you go thats how it would be
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Huahahaha...
Maybe... Vader still the winner...
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“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster —
I’d have to say Vader now for sure. Because Vader is definetly > Maul, and if Maul has the abilities with the force that I’ve seen, I have to beleive that Vader could preform the same feats if he wanted to.
--- I am a Servant of the Shadow, Minion of the Great Eye.
Sauron has wone the Master Chief vs Sauron debate.
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
I dont have PROOF that Vader move larger object than Darth Maul did...
So Maul stronger than Vader...
And since when did Maul toss around metal boxes with the Force?
Vader has shown more and better feats than Maul, therefore he beats Maul.
Megatron on the other hand, can casually nuke buildings. Vader is going to be blasted to vapor the moment the match starts.
uhmmmm you do know jedis can move fast right??? megatron cant kill him if he cant hit him...
Really, I didn’t know Jedi could move at mach 1 + speeds. Megatron can shoot down airborne autobots while they are flying. Also, missile with large aoe>>>> jedi speed.
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
I dont have PROOF that Vader move larger object than Darth Maul did...
So Maul stronger than Vader...
And since when did Maul toss around metal boxes with the Force?
Vader has shown more and better feats than Maul, therefore he beats Maul.
Megatron on the other hand, can casually nuke buildings. Vader is going to be blasted to vapor the moment the match starts.
uhmmmm you do know jedis can move fast right??? megatron cant kill him if he cant hit him...
Really, I didn’t know Jedi could move at mach 1 + speeds. Megatron can shoot down airborne autobots while they are flying. Also, missile with large aoe>>>> jedi speed.
yep... the jedi can use speed force to make their surroundings look like theyre in slow motion..
they can be so fast they can actually chase speeders.. youve watched smallville right?? youve seen supes speed?? just like a bullet time.. thats how fast they are
Oh wait... take a look at when Anakin was surgery and using his mask and he get anger when heard that Padme died... the robots near him crushed like pepsi can...
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ssj6kalel wrote:
yep... the jedi can use speed force to make their surroundings look like theyre in slow motion..
they can be so fast they can actually chase speeders.. youve watched smallville right?? youve seen supes speed?? just like a bullet time.. thats how fast they are
Bullshit. The best they can do is run faster than normal humans. They are NOT bullet timing. You’ll notice blaster shots in SW are slow as hell. And, AOE explosion>>>> ANY Jedi’s speed.
ssj6kalel wrote:
yep... the jedi can use speed force to make their surroundings look like theyre in slow motion..
they can be so fast they can actually chase speeders.. youve watched smallville right?? youve seen supes speed?? just like a bullet time.. thats how fast they are
Bullshit. The best they can do is run faster than normal humans. They are NOT bullet timing. You’ll notice blaster shots in SW are slow as hell. And, AOE explosion>>>> ANY Jedi’s speed.
I swear the fanboyism here is worse than CBUB.
ow, ok, did you try and resaerch about what the jedis can do before you say something like im a fanboy??? if you dont like it here get out!!! the site is wookiepedia.. get it??? now try and research about the force before you say something idiotic again..
voting for someone without even researching for the abiliteis of the other is a sign of fanboyism stupid!!!
Force Speed was a Force power that allowed the user to maintain sprinting speeds (even moving in awkward directions like backwards) for a brief time. Greater aptitude granted greater boosts to speed and/or greater duration. The power also apparently enabled the user to run for extended distances with no visible signs of fatigue.
The increased speed of the Jedi enabled him to see the world and the entities around him in slow motion. This allowed the Jedi to dodge attacks easier, and attack quicker with greater accuracy.
The duration and the amount of speed were subject to the user’s skill in the Force. With sufficient skill, one could actually run on vertical surfaces for brief periods of time.
Kaox Krul used this Force power to chase Crian Maru and Dree Vandap, who were on a speeder.
Oh, we’re using EU as well? You should have told me.
Then the Jedi get a much larger upgrade in their power. Vader is now much stronger, but still loses. Why? because Megatron can fire off shots can can blow up entire city blocks.
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