Hmmm beat way to put this Cloud is strong lifting a 350kg sword is impressive enough but Dante picking up a moter Bike is still vastly more impressive, sure we could use smacking around evil Demon’s but that had more to do with momentum and attack Dante can do that to Cirberus the gigantic three headed dog but it aint really alot to do with Lifting power in either case half demon of Sparda is alot stronger than Meta Human so go figure lol.
as for speed im really not convinced Cloud can keep pace with Omni-Slash alone Dante in regular Form chops Bullet’s out the air and is seen fighting incredibly fast in the opening of DMC3 it has to be slowed down to see them swinging their blade’s so you cant sy Cloud is for a fact faster just becauseof one move witch wasnt all that fast...if Dante is able to move that fast from the get go he has enogh speed to take down Cloud.
And durability really must go in Dante’s favor as Cloud is hurt from being shot at the end of AC Dante get’s shot in the face with a rifle twice in DMC3 without so much as blinking and in the opening casualy walks across he room with 3 syth’s impaleing him.
So i really gotta say Dante all factor’s considered
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Hmmm beat way to put this Cloud is strong lifting a 350kg sword is impressive enough but Dante picking up a moter Bike is still vastly more impressive, sure we could use smacking around evil Demon’s but that had more to do with momentum and attack Dante can do that to Cirberus the gigantic three headed dog but it aint really alot to do with Lifting power in either case half demon of Sparda is alot stronger than Meta Human so go figure lol.
Actually, smacking down demons has ALOT to do with strength of a character. What ever they can smack/slice relates to their strength, so smacking down Bahamut is more impressive than lifting a bike.
Half demons are stronger than metahumans? Prove it. All I’m saying is, lifeting a bike is nothing compared to smacking down a dragon.
as for speed im really not convinced Cloud can keep pace with Omni-Slash alone Dante in regular Form chops Bullet’s out the air and is seen fighting incredibly fast in the opening of DMC3 it has to be slowed down to see them swinging their blade’s so you cant sy Cloud is for a fact faster just becauseof one move witch wasnt all that fast...if Dante is able to move that fast from the get go he has enogh speed to take down Cloud.
Cloud can’t chop bullets too or something? I didn’t say omnislash is Cloud’s normal pace, but it’s WAY faster than any bullet. So it’s slowed down in DMC? IT’S SLOWED DOWN WHEN CLOUD IS PERFORMING OMNISLASH TOO. That’s why you think it wasn’t that fast. Actually, if you see the part in the building on AC, you can see what kind of pace Cloud can deal with (where Sephiroth comes from nowhere).
And durability really must go in Dante’s favor as Cloud is hurt from being shot at the end of AC Dante get’s shot in the face with a rifle twice in DMC3 without so much as blinking and in the opening casualy walks across he room with 3 syth’s impaleing him.
So i really gotta say Dante all factor’s considered
I n ever said Cloud was more durable than Dante, I’ve said from what I’ve seen, Cloud can dish out more, that’s why he’d win. And Cloud got shot and still fought, actually, sure he was in pain, but he didn’t roll around crying. Cloud got shot in the face too. And actually think about, he’s more durable than you give credit, see when he went through mega flare unscathed?
1. well i was marly saying just cus you can punch a dragon douse not man you can lift one lol, Dante has beaten down much bigger opponent’s than Cloud douse that give him the advantage in strenth.
2. Cloud dousent exceed bullet speed with Omni Slash that would be 850 MPH there is no deffinative time given he douse move fast but he is no match for the son of Sparda with the Omni-Slash alone.
3. Cloud’s endurance is nothing on Dante’s he wasnt shot in the face the bullet take’s his Google’s of there is a small scrach on his brow were it bounced of them, at the end of the film the bullet tear’s straight through him and he make’s a last ditch effort to attack and is blown away it is apparent he is hurt proveing his endurance is nothing on Dante’s who laugh’s of much worse...dish out more lol and how is that.
This is a history of DMC3 and some DMC4 this way you know exactly what Cloud is up against.
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1. well i was marly saying just cus you can punch a dragon douse not man you can lift one lol, Dante has beaten down much bigger opponent’s than Cloud douse that give him the advantage in strenth.
And what suggests that he couldn’t? And besides Loz ALSO threw a bike with ease, who is weaker than Cloud.
Cloud dousent exceed bullet speed with Omni Slash that would be 850 MPH there is no deffinative time given he douse move fast but he is no match for the son of Sparda with the Omni-Slash alone.
YES HE DOES. CLOUD = BULLET TIME. SEPHIROTH = FASTER THAN CLOUD. SOMETHING HAS TO TRAVEL FASTER THAN BULLETS FOR IT TO HIT SEPHIROTH, this is even the case for Cloud too.
Cloud’s endurance is nothing on Dante’s he wasnt shot in the face the bullet take’s his Google’s of there is a small scrach on his brow were it bounced of them, at the end of the film the bullet tear’s straight through him and he make’s a last ditch effort to attack and is blown away it is apparent he is hurt proveing his endurance is nothing on Dante’s who laugh’s of much worse...dish out more lol and how is that.
Yeah, but the bullet didn’t take his head now did it? Just because it went through him, doesn’t mean he’s not durable. He still got up. Dante got pwned by Virgil and didn’t get up. You still forget mega flare. And my PC is too shit to watch those videos will have to do so in college.
1. Loz was stronger as in brute strenth over Cloud Kadaj and Yazzo (he was practically Sephiroth’s strenth) so it dident surprise me he could do that lol.
2. Once again no this is not the case Omni-Slash is described as an almost flawless tech that stricke’s from all angle’s leaveing no room for escape, Sephiroth showed nowere near the speed of Dante and so many other’s witch would surggest he simply could not avoid the tech due to lack of speed.
3. Dante has been shot stabbed impailed blown up and came back for more Vergil dident pwn him he kept getting back up or did you ignore the vid showing this lol, Cloud has nothing on his endurance he later surpasses Virgil as seen in the vid’s i posted (note: DMC3 is the first showing of Dante at his weakest).
That whole Mega Flare seemed paculiar like the strange aura that appeared around Cloud as he entered the blast...
Dante vs Virgil
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1. Loz was stronger as in brute strenth over Cloud Kadaj and Yazzo (he was practically Sephiroth’s strenth) so it dident surprise me he could do that lol.
HE IS NOTHING on Sephiroth, a remnant doesn’t mean he has Sephiroth’s level of power, and hahaha @ you for thinking he’s stronger than Cloud. Did you see Yazoo kick Reno? He is by no means weak. Dont even get me started on Cloud.
2. Once again no this is not the case Omni-Slash is described as an almost flawless tech that stricke’s from all angle’s leaveing no room for escape, Sephiroth showed nowere near the speed of Dante and so many other’s witch would surggest he simply could not avoid the tech due to lack of speed
You are such a contradictor, didn’t you just say in the other thread that Sephiroth could evade those attacks, and now you’re saying he can’t, why you keep on changing what you said for? Sephiroth couldn’t evade them because they were faster than bullets, ALOT faster. And you just said it leaves no room for escape, that would render Dante vulnerable to it. You need to think about what you say before you post it, first you contradict Sephs speed, then you said the move is inescapable, but Dante can avoid it?
3. Dante has been shot stabbed impailed blown up and came back for more Vergil dident pwn him he kept getting back up or did you ignore the vid showing this lol, Cloud has nothing on his endurance he later surpasses Virgil as seen in the vid’s i posted (note: DMC3 is the first showing of Dante at his weakest).
That whole Mega Flare seemed paculiar like the strange aura that appeared around Cloud as he entered the blast...
He got back up once then got pwned again, then turned into his 'uber powerful demon'
What aura? He went through it unscathed, you can deny it if you want like everything else.
1. Why do your post’s hurt to read Buster lol, Loz was Seph’s strenth as it said in the UO...what is hard to understand about this, next Yazzo kicked Reno flying wow Loz with a punch that missed sent Reno and Rude flying, punched a tree down threw his bike while it was in motion and threw Tifa round like a rag doll what did the other’s do in comparison???
2. Dont twist people’s word’s Buster that is an underhanded tatic you seem too use all to often allow me to alaborate for you, Omni Slash attack’s from all angle’s leaveing no room for escape a flawless tech aside from anyone who can move faster witch Seph obviously could not, Dante however can move and surpass these speed’s in DMC3 his earliest showing he was a match for Cloud and more already.
3. Dante Got stabbed in the Gut then impailed on the floor twice he still got up even after that (showing the ability to regenerate), he is shot in the face twice something that Effected Cloud so it’s safe to assume Dante is more durable, as for mega flare...Bullet’s hurt Cloud Mega Flare dident are you implying its a weak attack because i see outside interfearance got Cloud through that attack in the form of Airith.
Why do your post’s hurt to read Buster lol, Loz was Seph’s strenth as it said in the UO...what is hard to understand about this, next Yazzo kicked Reno flying wow Loz with a punch that missed sent Reno and Rude flying, punched a tree down threw his bike while it was in motion and threw Tifa round like a rag doll what did the other’s do in comparison???
Maybe you should wear glasses then LOLZ. Loz is nowhere near Sephiroth’s strength. Want proof?
Even after appearing in both Final Fantasy VII and Advent Children, Sephiroth’s true strength is still unknown. It’s stated in the official book “Reunion Files” the Sephiroth we see in the movie “ascended to a new level of existence” and is much stronger than before. But the book states that he never exerted himself in the final fight against Cloud, and because of that we still don’t know his true potential.
But we can have an idea of it, because of statements from Kitase and Nomura in the AC Director’s Comentary of the Japanese DVD. “Kitase said that Sephiroth’s existence and will is extremely powerful. There is nothing stronger, nothing above him.“
How can Loz’z strength equal something above him?
Loz shows impressive physical feats because he uses brute force. Did you see Tifa throwing Loz like he was a teady? Or did you miss that?
Fact is, no one is on Sephiroth’s level of strength.
2. Dont twist people’s word’s Buster that is an underhanded tatic you seem too use all to often allow me to alaborate for you, Omni Slash attack’s from all angle’s leaveing no room for escape a flawless tech aside from anyone who can move faster witch Seph obviously could not, Dante however can move and surpass these speed’s in DMC3 his earliest showing he was a match for Cloud and more already.
Go on show me where I’m always twisting peoples words, go on. No room for escape? So wha’ts the gap in between Cloud’s swords, what about moving up or down? Sephiroth couldn’t evade it because he wasn’t fast enough.
When Dante runs faster than a bullet by some magnitude, do tell me, evading bullest and moving faster than bullets are very different things.
. Dante Got stabbed in the Gut then impailed on the floor twice he still got up even after that (showing the ability to regenerate), he is shot in the face twice something that Effected Cloud so it’s safe to assume Dante is more durable, as for mega flare...Bullet’s hurt Cloud Mega Flare dident are you implying its a weak attack because i see outside interfearance got Cloud through that attack in the form of Airith
Regeneration only shows he is durable and relys on regenration. I could easily say Cloud uses Regen, but lets not. I never said Cloud being more durable, I said Kyle underestimates Cloud’s durablity. Outside help? Touching Aeris’s hand had no effect on his durablity, it was just the symbol of the final push from Avalanche. Cloud survives a potential city destroyer. Live with it.
Id just like to say i was saying Loz was stronger than Kadaj and Yazzo not Sephiroth, Sephiroth was most likely superior to the remnant’s in every way if what the UO say’s is true even if not displayed if the creator’s say he is capable of such feat’s then who are we to argue.
Althogh i will say AC Seph was his strongest i do belive he was still without his maximum ability without Yazzo and Loz but that is my opinion.
Have you seen the id’s yet Buster i honestly think you should he move’s faster than Bullet’s in DMC3 as i posted ill get some footage of current day Dante lol just to end this, but in anycase did you consider Bullet’s will kill Cloud a weapon Dante used beside’s his demon Blade (and they can take down Satan Demon’s of high Class) so i think you should show some credit were it’s due Cloud is awsome but still a mortal Dante is prety much Imortal come DMC2, and city destroyer...try world ender for Dante on a heavenly scale
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Id just like to say i was saying Loz was stronger than Kadaj and Yazzo not Sephiroth, Sephiroth was most likely superior to the remnant’s in every way if what the UO say’s is true even if not displayed if the creator’s say he is capable of such feat’s then who are we to argue.
Well we can’t be sure of that either tbh, remember Yazoo and Kadaj use skill over strength, so they might actually be the same. But who cares they’re still below Sephy.
Althogh i will say AC Seph was his strongest i do belive he was still without his maximum ability without Yazzo and Loz but that is my opinion.
And that’s all it will ever be, your opinion, which is wrong btw.
Have you seen the id’s yet Buster i honestly think you should he move’s faster than Bullet’s in DMC3 as i posted ill get some footage of current day Dante lol just to end this, but in anycase did you consider Bullet’s will kill Cloud a weapon Dante used beside’s his demon Blade (and they can take down Satan Demon’s of high Class) so i think you should show some credit were it’s due Cloud is awsome but still a mortal Dante is prety much Imortal come DMC2, and city destroyer...try world ender for Dante on a heavenly scale
How can you say he outpaces bullets when you have no idea of his speed, I could easily say omnislash is superluminal.
Dante’s bullet is not gonna hit Cloud if he moves away. Dante being imomrtal doesn’t mean he can’t be beaten. And I actually never said Cloud was a city destroyer, I said he survived a city destroyer, world ender or not he’s not unbeatable, Sephiroth was a world ender who got beaten by Cloud three times, need I say more, even Vincent beat a potential world ender...
1. Why should it? Because it’s your opinion that is proven wrong by what the creators say?
2. Er Cloud beat Sephiroth THREE TIMES. What are you talking about? It doesn’t matter what happened during the battle, fact is Cloud handed his ass to him whether he’s leagues below him or not.
Also, in FF7 AC, Sephiroth was completely immune to the original omnislash, which was supposedly undodgeable. He wouldn’t toy with Cloud if he wasn’t completely sure that the same thing wouldn’t kill him. Thus, Cloud used the Omnislash V5, which beat the new Sephiroth. Now, Kyle, since we’re not letting Cloud use the Omnislash, I don’t think it would be fair to let Dante have his super-devil form.
Seriously this is Dante Devil May Cry 3 with Vergil demonstrateing both their speed Feat’s throughout DMC3 now watch this ALL of this lol then tell me he cant beat Cloud.
This isnt considering Dante’s endurance strenth and tranceformation ability over Cloud ive lowered Dante as far as he will go and sadly he would still win.
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