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[Quote] #61
15 Jan 2008 07:29 am
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Mabe cus he actualy douse duh
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15 Jan 2008 04:12 pm
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Maybe you ignore what SE say DUH
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15 Jan 2008 04:30 pm
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And what’s that did they say they dont....oh no they dont cus Dirge is after AC and after that was written.



Weiss and Chaos can move so fast they disapear completely they leave after image’s that appear to hve been hit yet really they are behind each other and even before that Weiss could chop Bullet’s out the air an inch from his face or flick them back at Vincent, hell he bat’s them aside with his hand’s.

Cloud AC dodged Bullet’s but was wounded by one at the end witch surverely hurt him, his Omni-Slash V5 left after Image’s but he remained in Sight even Russo the Crimson demonstrate’s this but at a higher level spliting into three and Weiss took on all three and Azul’s Tranceformed state with just one arm seen here,



and that is before joining with Omega, if Sephiroth could not beat Cloud’s Omni-Slash and was on par with him in Physical fighting like you said then both are outdone here (even tho i belive Sephiroth to have been holding back drasticaly).

This is restrictor also below Weiss fighting Russo who he toy’s with,



This is Restrictor teaching Shelk to fight see how fast he move’s to take out the main here and she is a SOLIDER 1ST Class general and considered boreing for a Tsveit (as soon as she lift’s her gun e vanish’s and reapear’s in front of her) shelk also demonstrait’s her speed but it drain’s alot of MP to do so.



need i go on about how low in the food chain Cloud and Seph are compared with the Tsveiat’s.
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15 Jan 2008 07:26 pm
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What are you trying to prove here? Because I’m really tired of you.
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15 Jan 2008 09:08 pm
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Simply what is said Weiss and DG were leauge’s ubove Seph or Cloud.

And what’s that did they say they dont....oh no they dont cus Dirge is after AC and after that was written.



Weiss and Chaos can move so fast they disapear completely they leave after image’s that appear to hve been hit yet really they are behind each other and even before that Weiss could chop Bullet’s out the air an inch from his face or flick them back at Vincent, hell he bat’s them aside with his hand’s.

Cloud AC dodged Bullet’s but was wounded by one at the end witch surverely hurt him, his Omni-Slash V5 left after Image’s but he remained in Sight even Russo the Crimson demonstrate’s this but at a higher level spliting into three and Weiss took on all three and Azul’s Tranceformed state with just one arm seen here,



and that is before joining with Omega, if Sephiroth could not beat Cloud’s Omni-Slash and was on par with him in Physical fighting like you said then both are outdone here (even tho i belive Sephiroth to have been holding back drasticaly).

This is restrictor also below Weiss fighting Russo who he toy’s with,



This is Restrictor teaching Shelk to fight see how fast he move’s to take out the main here and she is a SOLIDER 1ST Class general and considered boreing for a Tsveit (as soon as she lift’s her gun e vanish’s and reapear’s in front of her) shelk also demonstrait’s her speed but it drain’s alot of MP to do so.



need i go on about how low in the food chain Cloud and Seph are compared with the Tsveiat’s.
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15 Jan 2008 09:13 pm
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Kyle Knight wrote: Ehem and why is that?

Because it killed Sephiroth.
Do you even dare compare Dante to Sephiroth?
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15 Jan 2008 09:21 pm
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Actually i do...Dante vs Sephiroth all out bring that on lol
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15 Jan 2008 09:25 pm
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Sephiroth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dante

You don’t really wanna go there, do you? wink
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15 Jan 2008 09:27 pm
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erm yes i do

Dante>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sephiroth
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15 Jan 2008 09:29 pm
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Then the topic shall be made. smiley
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15 Jan 2008 09:42 pm
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im game shoot
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16 Jan 2008 08:50 am
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Red Calibur don’t waste your time, it took me over a week to convince him that Cloud would beat Tidus, why would this be any different?
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16 Jan 2008 11:01 am
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...unless the two actualy foughtal debate’s are open t veiw but it is safe to assum that Cloud can beat Tidus
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18 Jan 2008 07:54 am
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So you’re discrediting the situation of a hypothetical battle because you got pwned about Cloud owning Tidus, by your logic you shouldn’t be here then if you say they’ll never fight, that’s the whole reason why this section exists to state what would happen.
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24 Jan 2008 10:49 am
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Well if that is the case Dante who is alot faster than Cloud would most likely cut him to bit’s like in the opening of DMC3?

loud could impail Dante to little efect while Dante could shoot the crap out of Cloud with Demonic powered Shot’s?

He could disarm Cloud and nail him in hand to hand combat and beat him that way.

Cloud is good with blade’s but Dante is good with most weapon’s and his fist’s and feet he is about as strong as loud in human form and can tranceform to even higher level’s of power.

Cloud beat Sephiroth a demi God then but you cant discredit Dante who beat the Devil himself actual God’s and high level demon lord’s, he has now surpassed his farther Sparda and taken the title of strongest demon and has taken down much bigger opponent’s than Cloud.

So i dont see his win?
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24 Jan 2008 05:45 pm
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Kyle, you say Dante is fast, but what effect does speed have at close quarters? None. if Cloud and Dante both had an identical sword, Cloud would be able to swing his much faster than Dante, simply because he is used to wielding a 5’x1.5' blade around, and he can move it around really quickly, as seen in Omnislash. Even if it isn’t slowed down, it’s still fast for the size of the sword he’s swinging. Dante simply has and average sized longsword, size-wise. And he can turn into a demon. Wow. Cloud can summon dragons, fire demons etc. use extremely powerful magic like Ultima and the level 3 Elemental magics (Bolt, Ice, Fire) and can heal himself, either over time or straight away. Dante may be able to kill “world enders”, but there is a good chance Cloud could also do this, he just hasn’t been presented with that kind of enemy thus far.

Think of it like the characters of the DB/Z/GT series. Would Goku have been able to defeat Freiza if he was in the same state he beat Nappa and Vegeta in? No, but he got stronger.

And you’ll probably say Dante would too, and he would, but he relies on his demon form. In a straight out, 1-on-1 physical fight with identical swords, Cloud would win easily.



And besides, would Dante be able to recover from being sliced into ribbons?(And I’m not saying Cloud would, just that Dante wouldn’t either)
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Dante used his farther’s weapon the demon Blade of Sparda witch was just as big as Cloud’s at the same speed as he normaly move’s he did this with his moter bike also so no he isnt as strong as Dante.

So in close quater’s he could decimate Cloud Dante cut his brother Virgil in half but he remained intact healing in the same instant he was hit so even if Cloud douse hit him witch is unlikely he wouldent do anything to harm Dante who has been impailed many time’s and just got up fine and dandy.

Cloud could not beat Marcus as he cannot breath in space or survive his attack’s witch instantly kill even high level demon’s Dante can deflect this and withstand it because his farther is Sarda the strongest demon to ever exist, Cloud is a meta Human not a half Devil Hybrid.

You asked what good is speed in CQC well Dante can teliport so he could take Cloud’s bck instantly, and at the speed Cloud move’s there isnt much he could do to stop Dante’s assault.

Dante did get stronger throughout the series and will most likely again with his training in Hade’s, Dante’s demon Form is over kill with energy manipulation and flight strenth increase speed increase and regeneration but he douse not need this most of the time unless up against some form of God.

Dante has been cut to ribbon’s blown o ribbons and shot to ribbon’s how about Cloud?
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25 Jan 2008 06:02 am
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Well if that is the case Dante who is alot faster than Cloud would most likely cut him to bit’s like in the opening of DMC3?

Cloud reacts to bullets and lightning, next you’ll be saying Dante is faster than lightning.

loud could impail Dante to little efect while Dante could shoot the crap out of Cloud with Demonic powered Shot’s?


Cloud doesn’t fuck about with his dinner, so no impale, Cloud uses any oppurtunity to end a fight, omnislash destroys Dante. Cloud blocks his shots.

He could disarm Cloud and nail him in hand to hand combat and beat him that way.


He’s not going to get that chance.

Cloud is good with blade’s but Dante is good with most weapon’s and his fist’s and feet he is about as strong as loud in human form and can tranceform to even higher level’s of power.


Cloud is better with blades than Dante it. It doesn’t matter what other weapons Dante has, are all Cloud’s opponents sword fighters? Hahaha Dante hs to transform to beat Cloud lmao, he gets omnislash in any form and is pwned.
Why is he as strong as Cloud?

Cloud beat Sephiroth a demi God then but you cant discredit Dante who beat the Devil himself actual God’s and high level demon lord’s, he has now surpassed his farther Sparda and taken the title of strongest demon and has taken down much bigger opponent’s than Cloud.

How am I discrediting Dante, am I saying he’s shit? I’m saying omnislash would destroy him, that doesn’t make one shit. Bigger? You mean larger in size? lmao

Kyle, you say Dante is fast, but what effect does speed have at close quarters? None. if Cloud and Dante both had an identical sword, Cloud would be able to swing his much faster than Dante, simply because he is used to wielding a 5’x1.5' blade around, and he can move it around really quickly, as seen in Omnislash. Even if it isn’t slowed down, it’s still fast for the size of the sword he’s swinging. Dante simply has and average sized longsword, size-wise. And he can turn into a demon. Wow. Cloud can summon dragons, fire demons etc. use extremely powerful magic like Ultima and the level 3 Elemental magics (Bolt, Ice, Fire) and can heal himself, either over time or straight away. Dante may be able to kill “world enders”, but there is a good chance Cloud could also do this, he just hasn’t been presented with that kind of enemy thus far.

Think of it like the characters of the DB/Z/GT series. Would Goku have been able to defeat Freiza if he was in the same state he beat Nappa and Vegeta in? No, but he got stronger.

And you’ll probably say Dante would too, and he would, but he relies on his demon form. In a straight out, 1-on-1 physical fight with identical swords, Cloud would win easily.



And besides, would Dante be able to recover from being sliced into ribbons?(And I’m not saying Cloud would, just that Dante wouldn’t either)

Even without materia and just limit breaks, Cloud stands a good chance of winning xD. And yes omnislash is actually slowed down because the original is quicker than a blink of an eye, AC omnislash > VII. Wouldn’t be much point in SE showing the best move if we couldn’t see it lol.

Dante used his farther’s weapon the demon Blade of Sparda witch was just as big as Cloud’s at the same speed as he normaly move’s he did this with his moter bike also so no he isnt as strong as Dante.


Because he uses the same sized sword he’s stronger than Cloud, I suppose Sephiroth is weak because his sword is lighter than Clouds then.

So in close quater’s he could decimate Cloud Dante cut his brother Virgil in half but he remained intact healing in the same instant he was hit so even if Cloud douse hit him witch is unlikely he wouldent do anything to harm Dante who has been impailed many time’s and just got up fine and dandy.

Cloud’s omnislash isn’t one hit, you can chose, 15 or 6 slices it’s up to you. And it isn’t just some continuous slice either.
You asked what good is speed in CQC well Dante can teliport so he could take Cloud’s bck instantly, and at the speed Cloud move’s there isnt much he could do to stop Dante’s assault.


Yet Cloud avoided Sephiroth behind him.

Dante did get stronger throughout the series and will most likely again with his training in Hade’s, Dante’s demon Form is over kill with energy manipulation and flight strenth increase speed increase and regeneration but he douse not need this most of the time unless up against some form of God.


Never said he got weaker.

Dante has been cut to ribbon’s blown o ribbons and shot to ribbon’s how about Cloud?


The poster never said Cloud could survive being cut to ribbons.
I think if omnislash kills something more durable than Chaos, Omega and Omega Weiss, why is it any different for Dante, even YOU said Chaos has a chance against Dante.

And with materia, it kinda gives the edge to Cloud.
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26 Jan 2008 07:54 pm
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To be honest Buster, I don’t think he’s ever gonna concede. He just keeps repeating the fact that Dante is the Son Of Sparda blah blah blah, regeneration blah blah blah, half-devil hybrid against meta-human blah blah effing blah. Whats to say that just because Dante is the spawn of a demon, who may have been the strongest demon evar but still got killed by someone >_>, means he is infinitely stronger than Cloud, who has been infused with a condensed form of the planets energy for 5 years straight, injected with the cells of a being who was capable of decimating a race which had the greatest control of magic in the entire game, THEN beat Sephiroth twice, killed Bahamut SIN, whose mega flare didn’t even scratch him. The only thing we can hope for is that Dante and Cloud are both in the next Smash Bros. or Soul Calibur :P


I still say CLous would win, or it would be a tie
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26 Jan 2008 08:31 pm
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The Dante hate makes me sad.
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