| 18 Jan 2008 02:10 am |
The Dog-Mod! Rep: 49  Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 18,414 | fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
wolfy, you knew what I meant.....
the doctor was complaining about how 9/11 threads always get locked, when he should be concerned about getting his numbers up, since he was 5th in the Iowa caucaus.
perhaps, but I felt particularly tired and when I am tired I get overtly critical.
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I created "The Pain Series". Now u die Rep: 14  Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,720 OFFLINE | Totalitus wrote:
firewolf81 wrote:
fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
firewolf81 wrote:
Dr.Ron Paul wrote:
Its interesting to note that every 9/11 truth thread gets locked regardless of which forum your on.
I can’t see why it would.
Cause zucas asked for it to be locked?
Oh, I see.
So Zucus is the main power on every forum and results in all the 9/11 truth topics getting locked.
my oh my, he sure gets around.
that would have to be a world record.
Power to effect locking on a global scale.
hmmmm.

ME TOO !!! hahahaa ..
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Es ist hoffnungslos... | | | 19 Jan 2008 09:49 am |
I created "The Pain Series". Now u die Rep: 14  Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,720 OFFLINE | RageOverdose wrote:
I like how you’re telling me how I think. Funny, because I don’t think about African or Asian people, I think about any poor country, one stricken with poverty. The fact that many may be African or Asian does not come to mind, because that’s NOT important. What is important is that they are people who are in need.
Oooh almost made yourself sound like Mother Teresa there.. but that aint gonna change shit.. THIRD WORLD IS 'almost never white' [unless you back to the MEDIVEAL ages that is] and thats here to stay.
Or maybe you can just realize you’re not completely right here and maybe support the idea that third world countries are filled with disadvantaged people, not races. This racist bullshit will stop once we start accepting other races and quit looking at them as a race and instead as a person, unless when dealing with cultural differences, basic description, and the few genetic differences.
yeah yeah yada yada yada... look dude. it all sounds very cool .. but when i go to GERMANY .. NONE OF THIS Shit is gonna stop ppl making racist remarks, folks bullying me ..
nor will it stop 'whites' being laughed at in India or the africans being mocked at..
Racism .. well .. nothing can ever ERADICATE it ..
its ingrained into your genes .. you are programmed to be racist and thats absolutely okay as per theory of natural selection and anyways the affinity to breed with a racial like.
none of this KINDERGARTEN BULLSHIT of “SAY NO TO RACISM” will ever work.
All humans can try to is .. STOP CLASSIFYING AND Discriminatiing ppl cuz their races, water down their prejudices..
and in that sense , i kinda feel Americans are better off than most countries.(thats wot i hear)
No, I didn’t. Maybe some of my ancestors did, or maybe not, but I can’t change that. I may not like it, but I can’t do anything about it. I can only help make sure the mistakes are rectified. And besides, Africans actually sold their own people to Europeans, since most were too scared to enter the country, so I’d say both are pretty bad. Nevermind that Arabs also dealt in slavery in Africa before the Europeans, so its not all “our” fault.
you MAY not like it eh ? .. guess you wrongly worded that .. i dont think u left some scope to change ur opinion on purpose
the Arabs are fucked up pieces of shit. there i said it. And i dont expect such bullshit from a kinda more 'literate and civilised' western countries.
But European countries DO HAVE hands of well .. millions of African innocents on their hands and will always forever have it so.
And how on earth did you intend to CONDONE EUROPEAN SLAVE TRADE by COMPARING IT WITH THE ARAB SLAVE TRADE ?
isnt it a bit like : “the LESSER HUMANS (arabs) BUY APE-MEN (africans) TOO ! SO WHY SHOULDNT WE?"
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Es ist hoffnungslos... | | | 19 Jan 2008 10:35 am |
Live like an angel, die like a devil Rep: 20  Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 12,757 OFFLINE | Well, I do agree that on some level, rascism will never be eradicated. everyone’s a little bit rascist, sometimes. No matter how much you claim to be accepting and caring a blah blah, you still will be prejudiced towards some race. the sooner peole accept that, the sooner we can go on with our lives with our thumbs up our asses.
However, rage does make a good point. Most of the time, africans own people sold them into the slavery of white europeans. Once europeans realized that they could get it cheaper, they just waltzed into africa, and imperialized it, just like they were doing to the americas.
Slavery today is basically sweatshop labor and eastern bloc women being kidnapped and being sold as sex slaves. theres definitely more, but Im too tired to go into it.
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the artist currently known as awesome. Rep: 35  Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 15,500 OFFLINE | THE_PAIN wrote:
yeah yeah yada yada yada... look dude. it all sounds very cool .. but when i go to GERMANY .. NONE OF THIS Shit is gonna stop ppl making racist remarks, folks bullying me ..
nor will it stop 'whites' being laughed at in India or the africans being mocked at..
Racism .. well .. nothing can ever ERADICATE it ..
its ingrained into your genes .. you are programmed to be racist and thats absolutely okay as per theory of natural selection and anyways the affinity to breed with a racial like.
none of this KINDERGARTEN BULLSHIT of “SAY NO TO RACISM” will ever work.
All humans can try to is .. STOP CLASSIFYING AND Discriminatiing ppl cuz their races, water down their prejudices..
and in that sense , i kinda feel Americans are better off than most countries.(thats wot i hear)
In that case why argue that the post is racist at all? You make it seem like it’s a lost cause.
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I created "The Pain Series". Now u die Rep: 14  Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,720 OFFLINE | its racially DISCRIMATORY, more like deragatory .. racially prejudiced and all that makes 'melvin gibsons' haters pissed..
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Es ist hoffnungslos... | | | 20 Jan 2008 01:11 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 13  Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 4,368 OFFLINE | THE_PAIN wrote:
Oooh almost made yourself sound like Mother Teresa there.. but that aint gonna change shit.. THIRD WORLD IS 'almost never white' [unless you back to the MEDIVEAL ages that is] and thats here to stay.
I never said third world isn’t mainly Asian or African. I’m only saying that shouldn’t matter, because if a person, of any race, is in dire need of care, they should get it. And, wasting time trying to figure out which race is the poorest is taking away from what can be done to help third world people.
yeah yeah yada yada yada... look dude. it all sounds very cool .. but when i go to GERMANY .. NONE OF THIS Shit is gonna stop ppl making racist remarks, folks bullying me ..
Yeah, that sucks. Hence why I don’t condone it. I’m not being naive here and saying people aren’t racist, because I know they are, hell, I’ve seen it in action.
nor will it stop 'whites' being laughed at in India or the africans being mocked at..
That needs to stop. I don’t plan to be the one to do it, but maybe I can instigate something. If not now, perhaps the future.
Racism .. well .. nothing can ever ERADICATE it ..
its ingrained into your genes .. you are programmed to be racist and thats absolutely okay as per theory of natural selection and anyways the affinity to breed with a racial like.
I’d like to see the gene you’re referring to, please.
I don’t believe its genetic. I believe its environmental. The result of people thinking they’re better, people not willing to accept change, people who are isolated, and people who are scared.
none of this KINDERGARTEN BULLSHIT of “SAY NO TO RACISM” will ever work.
All humans can try to is .. STOP CLASSIFYING AND Discriminatiing ppl cuz their races, water down their prejudices..
Pretty much what I’m saying.
and in that sense , i kinda feel Americans are better off than most countries.(thats wot i hear)
As far as outward violence and hate, we’re better in most areas of the country, and I have a feeling younger generations will have fewer prejudices because of the ever-changing demographics we have here. I won’t deny, however, that we still have problems, socially and politically, in the area of race, but that’s not the point.
you MAY not like it eh ? .. guess you wrongly worded that .. i dont think u left some scope to change ur opinion on purpose
I say, the only time grammar comes into play is when someone has run out of ammo in their argument gun. Semantics isn’t as desperate, but you’re delving too deep into what I. I don’t like it at all, because I loathe racism.
the Arabs are fucked up pieces of shit. there i said it. And i dont expect such bullshit from a kinda more 'literate and civilised' western countries.
Arabs or Muslims?
But European countries DO HAVE hands of well .. millions of African innocents on their hands and will always forever have it so.
Never denied that. But, Europeans aren’t the only ones.
And how on earth did you intend to CONDONE EUROPEAN SLAVE TRADE by COMPARING IT WITH THE ARAB SLAVE TRADE ?
I didn’t plan to condone such a horrendous act. I was making a point that white people aren’t the only ones in history who are to blame for the enslavement of Africans, but we are made to be. Its ignorant, and racist (oh, but you can’t be racist against a white guy, can you?). I’m not condoning anything.
isnt it a bit like : “the LESSER HUMANS (arabs) BUY APE-MEN (africans) TOO ! SO WHY SHOULDNT WE?“
The “lesser humans” are to thank for us still having intelligence, considering they were the few to actually preserve ancient Greek and Roman technologies, art, and scientific concepts. But, in a nutshell, it almost seems like that’s what the Europeans were thinking. Too bad they were too big of pussies to actually go into Africa at the time.
Well, I do agree that on some level, rascism will never be eradicated. everyone’s a little bit rascist, sometimes. No matter how much you claim to be accepting and caring a blah blah, you still will be prejudiced towards some race. the sooner peole accept that, the sooner we can go on with our lives with our thumbs up our asses.
Too bad that, for a whole year since I gave up on thinking about race, I’ve not had a racist thought. And you can claim all you want that I still think a racist thought every now and then, but you’d be wrong. And when I say racist, I mean a negative thought/action against people only because of their race, or any racial generalization.
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the artist currently known as awesome. Rep: 35  Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 15,500 OFFLINE | THE_PAIN wrote:
its racially DISCRIMATORY, more like deragatory .. racially prejudiced and all that makes 'melvin gibsons' haters pissed..
it’s not discriminating against anyone. Discrimination is excluding people. Now if you want to say simply making a topic that deals with a specific class of countries is discriminatory then I wish you luck trying to live by your own standards.
It’s certainly not derogatory. No insults were dealt and no one was looked down upon.
It was not racially prejudiced. For the last time 3rd world does not denote any specific race. Just because that a lot of third world countries are in the lower hemisphere doesn’t mean anything. That’s like saying insulting people in Washington DC is racist against blacks because the majority of people there are black. It’s dumb.
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I created "The Pain Series". Now u die Rep: 14  Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,720 OFFLINE | Atresac wrote:
it’s not discriminating against anyone. Discrimination is excluding people. Now if you want to say simply making a topic that deals with a specific class of countries is discriminatory then I wish you luck trying to live by your own standards.
It’s certainly not derogatory. No insults were dealt and no one was looked down upon.
It was not racially prejudiced. For the last time 3rd world does not denote any specific race. Just because that a lot of third world countries are in the lower hemisphere doesn’t mean anything. That’s like saying insulting people in Washington DC is racist against blacks because the majority of people there are black. It’s dumb.
When you say Washington DC , i see the MONUMENT, the WHITE HOUSE .. and Bush
but talk DARFUR .. and i dont see irish whites for sure
nor do i see 'n****s' when you say SWEDEN
and similarly .. one couldn’t see predominantly white countries anyways when you say 3rd world..
and mind you .. its not just about “me” seeing .. its wot humans in the usual sense of the word would
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Es ist hoffnungslos... | | | 21 Jan 2008 02:14 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 13  Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 4,368 OFFLINE | THE_PAIN wrote:
When you say Washington DC , i see the MONUMENT, the WHITE HOUSE .. and Bush
but talk DARFUR .. and i dont see irish whites for sure
nor do i see 'n****s' when you say SWEDEN
and similarly .. one couldn’t see predominantly white countries anyways when you say 3rd world..
and mind you .. its not just about “me” seeing .. its wot humans in the usual sense of the word would
Then you’re the one with a racist problem, not us.
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20  Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3,403 OFFLINE | Maybe The Pain is trying to get at the difference between theory and practice.
In other words, in theory 3-world should mean those countries in which Western society claims as “undeveloped” or “economically disadvantaged”. When perhaps for some, because '3-world' is so strongly associated with areas of the world that are predominantly non-European that if someone does make a comment about '3-world' they are inheritantly thinking about particular races when they do.
I don’t think you can really deny this to be true.
So can “3-world” be used as a racist term?
It’s another form of classification, if I reduce someone down to their skin colour, religion, nationality, or economic status and make assumptions based on these, I would say that’s racist.
And don’t forget, a term like racist is an evolving one, words only mean something when they have a shared meaning.
Anyway, strictly speaking racism only applies to race, everything else is discrimination or prejudice. But whatever, they all imply some sort of “one groups better then the other” mentality.
The whole baby thing....well, that’s just a gross/inappropriate comment, not racist or discriminatory. (I know that’s already been covered...but I wanted to bring it back to the whole reason why we’re arguing about “3-world”=racist thing)
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 13  Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 4,368 OFFLINE | treeplanter wrote:
In other words, in theory 3-world should mean those countries in which Western society claims as “undeveloped” or “economically disadvantaged”. When perhaps for some, because '3-world' is so strongly associated with areas of the world that are predominantly non-European that if someone does make a comment about '3-world' they are inheritantly thinking about particular races when they do.
I know exactly what he’s saying. The fact people immediately think of race is wrong. They shouldn’t, and the fact he’s so willing to bring it up and accept a folly rather than realize that there can be a small bit of reformation here and that the thread was not racist, at least to us who truly have followed Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream.
Sometimes it seems he died in vain. Sometimes.
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Haruhi demands you join the MvC Otakus | | | 22 Jan 2008 09:11 am |
I created "The Pain Series". Now u die Rep: 14  Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,720 OFFLINE | RageOverdose wrote:
THE_PAIN wrote:
When you say Washington DC , i see the MONUMENT, the WHITE HOUSE .. and Bush
but talk DARFUR .. and i dont see irish whites for sure
nor do i see 'n****s' when you say SWEDEN
and similarly .. one couldn’t see predominantly white countries anyways when you say 3rd world..
and mind you .. its not just about “me” seeing .. its wot humans in the usual sense of the word would
Then you’re the one with a racist problem, not us.
well .. if you associate black ppl with Sweden
you’re either or all of them:
A Liar
A Hypocrite
Blind
Psychologically differently abled
Retarded
i maybe RACIST.. but at least i dont talk derogatory shit or insult other races.. and for heavens sake.. i got the guts to admit the truth.
no personal offense intended 
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Es ist hoffnungslos... | | | 22 Jan 2008 02:00 pm |
is causing chaos. Rep: 25  Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 8,135 OFFLINE | THE_PAIN wrote:
i maybe RACIST.. but at least i dont talk derogatory shit or insult other races.. and for heavens sake.. i got the guts to admit the truth.
no personal offense intended 
So you admit your racist, but it’s okay because you don’t degrade other races.
Well...those topics were neither racist nor degrading as there was not even a word about race. If you think it’s racist because you associate certain areas with certain races, that’s your problem. No one else’s.
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I created "The Pain Series". Now u die Rep: 14  Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,720 OFFLINE | Totalitus wrote:
Well...those topics were neither racist nor degrading as there was not even a word about race. If you think it’s racist because you associate certain areas with certain races, that’s your problem. No one else’s.
Well I don’t let my racial prejudices discriminate against people and I dont got to prove that to nobody here. Fuck I care what YOU Think what my problem is..
YOU THINK those topics weren’t racist, BUT I THINK those topics signify the rather “rot” thats plagued the white/(now)the 1st world psyche for centuries.
Although, thankfully, most of the folks have let their sensibilities talk and not let their racial prejudices take over.
Unfortunately, here you wouldnt even admit .. that the very reason that it was directed at “3rd world” children was cuz they’re no doubt poor/feeble/hungry but also , perceptively , 'racially inferior'
you may run, but you can’t hide.. who the fuck you think you’re kidding when you say you dont differentiate between white and black and everything else in between, .. grow up, get real and face it.. this “holier than thou” shit wont get you nowhere.
I admit I may be touchy about this whole racism issue, a tad too sensitive perhaps but y’all would be goddamn hypocrites to say there exists no racial discrimination in the 1st world.
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Es ist hoffnungslos...Last edited 22 Jan 2008 03:01 pm by THE_PAIN | | | 22 Jan 2008 03:29 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20  Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3,403 OFFLINE | THE_PAIN wrote:
Well I don’t let my racial prejudices discriminate against people and I dont got to prove that to nobody here. Fuck I care what YOU Think what my problem is..
YOU THINK those topics weren’t racist, BUT I THINK those topics signify the rather “rot” thats plagued the white/(now)the 1st world psyche for centuries.
Although, thankfully, most of the folks have let their sensibilities talk and not let their racial prejudices take over.
Unfortunately, here you wouldnt even admit .. that the very reason that it was directed at “3rd world” children was cuz they’re no doubt poor/feeble/hungry but also , perceptively , 'racially inferior'
you may run, but you can’t hide.. who the fuck you think you’re kidding when you say you dont differentiate between white and black and everything else in between, .. grow up, get real and face it.. this “holier than thou” shit wont get you nowhere.
I admit I may be touchy about this whole racism issue, a tad too sensitive perhaps but y’all would be goddamn hypocrites to say there exists no racial discrimination in the 1st world.
I don’t know for sure, and you don’t either but I think you’re giving that person too much credit, honestly.
I would say it was done for the shock factor, because it’s taboo...and lo and behold would be made into a big deal.
Yes, it may have been done out of ignorance but I don’t think it was done out of hate.
I agree with you on so many points, and you’ve touched on some very real issues...I just don’t think this is the best example of one.
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Live like an angel, die like a devil Rep: 20  Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 12,757 OFFLINE | It was done for shock value. It was done for the pure fun of making fun of those less fortunate. It could have been “How would you eat poor children” or “How do you eat children with cancer”, it would be the same thing.
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I created "The Pain Series". Now u die Rep: 14  Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,720 OFFLINE | treeplanter wrote:
I don’t know for sure, and you don’t either but I think you’re giving that person too much credit, honestly.
No i never blamed Squipple per se, i blamed him only for STUPIDITY/INSENSITIVITY
but racism .. nah , i just think he honestly represented wot the 1st world psyche is like ..
I would say it was done for the shock factor, because it’s taboo...and lo and behold would be made into a big deal.
Yes, it may have been done out of ignorance but I don’t think it was done out of hate.
I didnt say “hate” , its more like coming out in the open about racial discrimination .. a la mel gibson tirade..
I agree with you on so many points, and you’ve touched on some very real issues...I just don’t think this is the best example of one.
Point Taken. I Agree on that to say the least.
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Es ist hoffnungslos... | | | 22 Jan 2008 08:45 pm |
I created "The Pain Series". Now u die Rep: 14  Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,720 OFFLINE | fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
It was done for shock value. It was done for the pure fun of making fun of those less fortunate.
Lovely, you just nailed it .. and of all the world’s chidlren .. the poor of the THIRD world had to be the least fortunate...
it could have been the US homeless .. or the European poor .. or just “homeless/hungry children”
but it had to be THIRD world.. the least fortunate not cuz its economically backward.. but .. 'supposedly' racially .... you know..
It could have been “How would you eat poor children” or “How do you eat children with cancer”, it would be the same thing.
Yea , i totally agree that the main objective of the thread was 'shock value' , not racial discrimination .. but the latter , it was strongly obvious nevertheless..
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Es ist hoffnungslos... | | | 23 Jan 2008 03:38 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20  Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3,403 OFFLINE | Yeah!!
Sorry...I just feel things are more 'settled' now
Although if ya’ll want to debate the term “third-world” make a thread and I’ll be there.... grrrrr...I hate that term... 
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