Manchester Black wrote:
I suggest someone reread the GEB respect thread.
There’s no POINT Lucifer is second to ONLY God and equal to the Michael. He’s the fallen archangel and shown to be more cunning and probably a bit more skilled than EVEN Michael. GEB gets soloed.
Manchester Black wrote:
You keep on saying this.Omega Shenron got hit with a energy ball that aparently had the energy from everyone in the universe.Also Imperiex was sent back to the big bang and thats what finished him and even then its said his threat still exists around the universe.
The Big Bang destroyed his physical form but his conscience was still there. Big whoop, Li Shenron was still there (his essence) so Piccolo sacrificed himself to ensure he wouldn’t rise again. There’s also the fact that Kal was punching the shit out of Imperiex...while Shenron DESTROYED SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta...
Manchester Black wrote:
If you know why are you debating Omega Shenron can beat him?
If it took a whole universe to bring him down...compared to a guy destroyed by Pre Crisis, Alex Luthor, Kal, and Kara...
Manchester Black wrote:
Dr Light is well lets see...A GENIUS!Joker is smart enough to where he knows he’s a comic book character.If you honestly wonder why Luthor outsmarts Supes you don’t know Luthor.Also I find it funny you use this to make it seem that they are dumb but when Gero was outsmarted by 17 and 18 that makes them smart.
Considering how they never had time to form a plan and Gero being smarter than Bulma yeah... Joker’s a fucking maniac, Dr. Light is smart but doesn’t have 13th level intelligence like Braniac so I’m not impressed and Luthor likes to play with Clark’s head - cat and mouse like Joker and Bats...
Manchester Black wrote:
Then you should know he can wipe out most if not all of the DBZ verse.
I’d go with a lot but not all, SSJ4’s utterly destroy Prime, Omega Shenron solos most of the DC/Marvel verses. Prime destroys all non-Saiyan Z fighters...except Ubb cause he’s a BEAST! Trunks and Goten would put up a good fight though. Gohan’s kinda a bitch like you said so I dunno about him...
Also Bebi MIGHT beat him but Super 17 destroys him though...
Manchester Black wrote:
Okay then prove it.
Anytime you wanna gimme volume 26, I got your proof.
Manchester Black wrote:
Post a scan of the anime then showing it bigger than earth.Also you fail to see he moves faster than light and could punch the shit out of Goku while charging or directing it.
Dude even the SSB against KB was big as the Earth... There’s no point. You fail to see Goku could easily dodge and even if he didn’t, he could take more than enough of his punches just like he did years back with Frieza.
ULXR wrote:
There’s no POINT Lucifer is second to ONLY God and equal to the Michael. He’s the fallen archangel and shown to be more cunning and probably a bit more skilled than EVEN Michael. GEB gets soloed.
LOL I wish we had smilies.
“Meddlers on Earth have succeeded in awakening a terrible primordial shadow that slept in the chaos beyond Hell. Informed sources expect the Darkness to advance across the afterworld upon the Place of Lights (Heaven) itself. Consequently, everyone has chosen sides, depending on whom they expect to win”
ULXR wrote:
The Big Bang destroyed his physical form but his conscience was still there. Big whoop, Li Shenron was still there (his essence) so Piccolo sacrificed himself to ensure he wouldn’t rise again. There’s also the fact that Kal was punching the shit out of Imperiex...while Shenron DESTROYED SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta...
One what are you talking about?Piccolo sacrificed himself?When?What GT were you watching.Also beating up two weaklings isn’t impressive.Theres also the fact that Supes was uh...SUNDIPPED!!
ULXR wrote:
If it took a whole universe to bring him down...compared to a guy destroyed by Pre Crisis, Alex Luthor, Kal, and Kara...
Thats the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.The energy of people was needed.You didn’t see everyone gain up on him.You didn’t see Yamcha,Krillen,Cell,Frieza,or any of those other fuckers.Goku use there energy.Theres also the fact that Antimonitor destroys universes while Omega Shenron can destroy a planet.I find the fact that I’m actually debating this sad.
ULXR wrote:
Considering how they never had time to form a plan and Gero being smarter than Bulma yeah...
Lets see...they looked up and saw a device that they know will royally fuck them over.They play like there loyal and they kick his ass.Whats so smart about that?
ULXR wrote:
Joker’s a fucking maniac, Dr. Light is smart but doesn’t have 13th level intelligence like Braniac so I’m not impressed and Luthor likes to play with Clark’s head - cat and mouse like Joker and Bats...
Jokers a maniac but a smart maniac.He outsmarted a fifth dimension imp,figured out the philosphers stone in seconds,knows of the multiverse,etc.Light may not have 13th level intelligence but he is smart.Luthor well hell you know Luthor is 13th level.
ULXR wrote:
I’d go with a lot but not all, SSJ4’s utterly destroy Prime,
SSJ4=Slower than light,can’t lift a small city,can’t tank planet busters,can destroy a planet.
Superman-Prime=Faster than light,can move planets,can take a galaxy buster,can destroy a planet.Looks like the opposite.
ULXR wrote:
Omega Shenron solos most of the DC/Marvel verses.
LOL.Omega Shenron really isn’t that strong.Your overrated him greatly.The guys best feat is owning to SSJ4s.
ULXR wrote:
Prime destroys all non-Saiyan Z fighters...except Ubb cause he’s a BEAST!
Uub is shit.He would be dominated.And don’t say henka beam.Regular Supes has resisted reality warping.
ULXR wrote:
Trunks and Goten would put up a good fight though. Gohan’s kinda a bitch like you said so I dunno about him...
Trunks and Goten could fuse and would be demolished.
ULXR wrote:
Also Bebi MIGHT beat him but Super 17 destroys him though...
Regular Kid Gokus dragon fist was able to punch through 17...Prime destroys him.
ULXR wrote:
Anytime you wanna gimme volume 26, I got your proof.
I gave a link to a site once that had DBZ online.
ULXR wrote:
Dude even the SSB against KB was big as the Earth... There’s no point. You fail to see Goku could easily dodge and even if he didn’t, he could take more than enough of his punches just like he did years back with Frieza.
One it wasn’t as big as earth.It was big but not as big as earth.Second thats funny since he punches faster than the Flashes(Goku dodging his punches).Also Frieza hell no one in DBZ has shown planet moving strength.
Manchester Black wrote:
LOL I wish we had smilies. “Meddlers on Earth have succeeded in awakening a terrible primordial shadow that slept in the chaos beyond Hell. Informed sources expect the Darkness to advance across the afterworld upon the Place of Lights (Heaven) itself. Consequently, everyone has chosen sides, depending on whom they expect to win”
“You mean there’s doubt?"
“Grave doubt, this is no fallen Angel or Leviathan heaven faces, this is the soul of darkness itself. A complete absence of divine light.
This line alone shows he is stronger.
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You fail to see that GEB is the archrival of TP. And if you believe TP is superior to God... Also you don’t manage to cause God trouble by being a weakling.
Manchester Black wrote:
One what are you talking about?Piccolo sacrificed himself?When?What GT were you watching.Also beating up two weaklings isn’t impressive.Theres also the fact that Supes was uh...SUNDIPPED!!
Umm th real GT... If you call SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta weak, I honestly wonder what goes on through your head. Sundipped or not, he was punching the shit out of 1 of your so called powerful cosmic beings...
Manchester Black wrote:
Thats the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.The energy of people was needed.You didn’t see everyone gain up on him.You didn’t see Yamcha,Krillen,Cell,Frieza,or any of those other fuckers.Goku use there energy.Theres also the fact that Antimonitor destroys universes while Omega Shenron can destroy a planet.I find the fact that I’m actually debating this sad.
And I REALLY wonder what you’re on. He took all those “fuckers” energy to the point of exhaustion and they are a hella of a lot stronger than most of your bitch ass comic heroes... How the fuck are you gonna say Omega Shenron destroys only planets huh? Vegeta was doing that shit when he was first introduced.
Manchester Black wrote:
Lets see...they looked up and saw a device that they know will royally fuck them over.They play like there loyal and they kick his ass.Whats so smart about that?
The second that he fell for their act that they friggin improvised in like a sec or 2.
Manchester Black wrote:
Jokers a maniac but a smart maniac.He outsmarted a fifth dimension imp,figured out the philosphers stone in seconds,knows of the multiverse,etc.Light may not have 13th level intelligence but he is smart.Luthor well hell you know Luthor is 13th level.
Joker has been outmsarted by Harley Quinn and Oracle let alone Bruce, Light has never outsmarted Bats, Supes almost always outmsmarts Luthor.
Manchester Black wrote:
SSJ4=Slower than light,can’t lift a small city,can’t tank planet busters,can destroy a planet.
Superman-Prime=Faster than light,can move planets,can take a galaxy buster,can destroy a planet.Looks like the opposite.
SSJ4 = WELL past light speed, throws out multi galaxy busters EASY, can punch down pre-crisis Supes pretty easy, a genious at fighting, super Hulk like rage factor involved...
Prime = Pre Crisis Supes on steroids but able to get taken down by 2-3 normal powered Kryptonians...
Manchester Black wrote:
LOL.Omega Shenron really isn’t that strong.Your overrated him greatly.The guys best feat is owning to SSJ4s.
I’m not gonna bother answering you if you honestly believe this.
Manchester Black wrote:
Uub is shit.He would be dominated.And don’t say henka beam.Regular Supes has resisted reality warping.
Mr. M and Dr. Light. Also his brain is susceptable to brain control thanks to ol' Manchester Black and Maxwell Lord too. So henka beam it is buddy.
Manchester Black wrote:
Trunks and Goten could fuse and would be demolished.
Trunks put up a fight against Bebi and Goten wasn’t too far behind. Them fused is their power increased greatly. Try again. And guess what they’re grown up now.
Manchester Black wrote:
Regular Kid Gokus dragon fist was able to punch through 17...Prime destroys him.
It was SS4 and yeah SUPER DRAGON FIST. So no...
Manchester Black wrote:
I gave a link to a site once that had DBZ online.
Which unfortuantly doesn’t work.
Manchester Black wrote:
One it wasn’t as big as earth.It was big but not as big as earth.Second thats funny since he punches faster than the Flashes(Goku dodging his punches).Also Frieza hell no one in DBZ has shown planet moving strength.
One it was almost as big and the USB just dwarfed that, two Goku was blitz fighting during the Frieza saga, three Goku + Vegeta in the Saiyan saga threy planet shattering punches.
ULXR wrote:
You fail to see that GEB is the archrival of TP. And if you believe TP is superior to God... Also you don’t manage to cause God trouble by being a weakling.
I almost loled after reading this?You do realize that the Presence is DCs God right?
ULXR wrote:
Umm th real GT...
Piccolo didn’t want to leave earth and died.He was in heaven but ended up in hell.Never sacrificed himself or anything.
ULXR wrote:
If you call SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta weak, I honestly wonder what goes on through your head.
Couldn’t lift a small city.Was getting pwned by Golden Ozarru Bebi Vegeta,was easily poisoned,ran away from Nova Shenron cause he was to hot,was getting pwned by Super 17,was easily frozen by Ice Shenron...
ULXR wrote:
Sundipped or not, he was punching the shit out of 1 of your so called powerful cosmic beings...
Lets see Supes is...a cosmic being himself non sundipped and with mental blocks.Imagine Supes without mental blocks and sundipped.
ULXR wrote:
And I REALLY wonder what you’re on. He took all those “fuckers” energy to the point of exhaustion and they are a hella of a lot stronger than most of your bitch ass comic heroes...
LOL those cosmic heroes can wipe out more than planets.Those cosmic heroes can actually go out in space.Those cosmic heroes don’t struggle with 40 tons.Those cosmic heroes defeat galaxy threats.LOL Supes would wipe out everyone lower than Goku easily.
ULXR wrote:
How the fuck are you gonna say Omega Shenron destroys only planets huh? Vegeta was doing that shit when he was first introduced.
Lets review.Vegeta did that when he first appeared yes.Then Frieza appears what does he do?Destroy a planet.Then Cell appears those he succeed in destroying the solar system like he claims?No cause he didn’t have the power to.Kid Buu appears what is destroyed by him?Oh yeah a planet.
ULXR wrote:
The second that he fell for their act that they friggin improvised in like a sec or 2.
Okay lets see.I wake up and see my creator with a device that will deactivate me.My brother wakes up and sees the same thing.We fake like we are loyal.The second the fucker turns his back we kick his ass.Hey I"m a super genius!!
ULXR wrote:
Joker has been outmsarted by Harley Quinn and Oracle let alone Bruce, Light has never outsmarted Bats, Supes almost always outmsmarts Luthor.
I love your use of low end feats yet you seem to consider Gero getting tricked by 17 and 18 signs of them being genius.Tell me when he was outsmarted by those 2.Second as I said earlier Light isn’t on Luthors level but he’s a genius.As for the last part I find it laughable.Supes is that level aswell.
ULXR wrote:
SSJ4 = WELL past light speed,
Looks like its time to bring out the good old threads that proved DBZers=slower than light.
ULXR wrote:
throws out multi galaxy busters EASY,
LOL where was his galaxy busting power during his fight with so many of his opponents?!Exactly he doesn’t have any.
ULXR wrote:
can punch down pre-crisis Supes pretty easy,
I LOLED SO HARD WITH THIS STATEMENT!Do you honestly believe that?He couldn’t punch down Super 17 for gods sake!Hahaha...HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!
ULXR wrote:
a genious at fighting,
The only thing thats true in everything about SSJ4.
ULXR wrote:
super Hulk like rage factor involved...
What?
ULXR wrote:
Prime = Pre Crisis Supes on steroids but able to get taken down by 2-3 normal powered Kryptonians...
Earth 2 Supes is nowhere close to normal level.Theres also the fact you really enjoy leaving out the fact it was through PIS.LOL SSJ4 could barely beat that poison dragon.Hell he needed Pan to beat the lightning one!
ULXR wrote:
I’m not gonna bother answering you if you honestly believe this.
Tell me what makes him so great other than he owned 2 SSJ4s?Exactly nothing.
ULXR wrote:
Mr. M and Dr. Light.Also his brain is susceptable to brain control thanks to ol' Manchester Black and Maxwell Lord too. So henka beam it is buddy.
I fail to see what the first 2 have anything to do with this.MXY has been outsmarted by Supes so many times.Also I really almost died laughing.Do you honestly believe mind control=transmutation?Also I posted you the feats of Supes resisted reality warping and transmutation.Henka beam ain’t working.
ULXR wrote:
Trunks put up a fight against Bebi and Goten wasn’t too far behind. Them fused is their power increased greatly. Try again. And guess what they’re grown up now.
Yeah a bebi who wasn’t full power or going all out.Also look at what happened to Gohan because of a lack of training.Neither one of them have trained in years.Theres also the fact that Prime destroys them in strength,speed,durability,and intelligence.Fail.
ULXR wrote:
It was SS4 and yeah SUPER DRAGON FIST. So no...
No Goku was back a kid(If I remember right).
ULXR wrote:
Which unfortuantly doesn’t work.
It does for me.
ULXR wrote:
One it was almost as big and the USB just dwarfed that,
As I’ve asked post a scan or some videos to prove it.
ULXR wrote:
two Goku was blitz fighting during the Frieza saga,
Thats great and all but nowhere near Flashes speed so try again.
ULXR wrote:
three Goku + Vegeta in the Saiyan saga threy planet shattering punches.
LOL at this.The only way DBZ characters can destroy planets is from energy blasts.
ULXR wrote:
[Dude even the SSB against KB was big as the Earth
I haven’t watched DBZ in years and I know this is false, so I went to youtube to find the video where Kid Buu is killed with the SSB
Kid Buu is about 5 feet tall let’s say. Even if that bomb was one third the size of the Earth the curve would not be that clear. The Empire State Building is probably taller than that thing’s diameter.
Also, it gained a little mass right before it exploded, so before that’s pointed out
And what Ultima doesn’t seem to understand is that he would still assrape them.Mxy destroyed the multiverse and then brought it back cause he was bored.
lmao! mxy is sooo awesome. haha. i mean, seriously. this isn’t even counting the like 10 omnipotent people from marvel and the who knows how many from dc. this is just one dude who happens to live in the 5th dimension, and he could EASILY do it. shenrons, z fighters, and fucking baby would all be nothing.
lol. i just don’t see how the dbgt universe can even stand a chance. i mean, its almost ridiculous. not even using superman, dc has more then enough strong characters. plenty of immortal ones. they have fucking resurrection man, who has the power to come back from the dead with a random super power.
just for the hell of it i’ll post a list of ALL the cosmic entities.
In the comic books published by DC Comics, cosmic entities (also referred to as cosmic beings) are fictional characters possessing superpowers on a planetary, stellar, galactic or even universal level, powers far beyond those of humans or conventional superheroes, and usually serving some natural function in the fictional universes in which they exist.
dc cosmic entities:
DC cosmic entities are divided into the spiritual, spatial and the magical realms. This differs them from Marvel entities, who regularly take on both spatial and magical roles (eg. Marvel’s Death is a member of the Cosmic Compass, but also grants temporary immortality to Earth’s Sorcerer Supreme).
Spatial realm
* Agamemno
* Andri Gunnar
* Anti-Life Entity
* Auctioneer
* Black Racer
* The Controllers
* Darkseid
* Dominus
* Fatalist
* Feast
* Guardians of the Universe
* Highfather
* Imperiex
* Interferer
* Kismet
* Krona
* Mageddon
* Mallo, Keeper of the Cosmic Balance
* Materna Minxx
* Metron
* Mogo
* Mr. Nebula
* Onimar Synn
* Overmaster
* Rao
* Solaris
* Starbreaker
* Starro
* Sun-Eater
* Takion
* The Triarch
* The Unimaginable
* Vext
* Xenon
* X’Hal
* Yuga Khan
* Zamarons
Timestream
* Destiny
* The Endless One
Emotional Manifestations
* Ion
* Parallax
“Dreamtime”
* Betty Clawman
Magical realm
* Avatar
* Barter
* Blaze and Satanus
* Cain and Abel
* Captain Nazi
* Dream of the Endless
* Kid Eternity
* Nebiros
* Neron
* Orishas
* Phantom Stranger
* Queen of Fables
* Quetzalcoatl
* Rama
* Shango
* Shazam
* Titans of Myth
* Uncle Sam
5th Dimension and similar realms
* Bat-Mite (not actually from the 5th dimension)
* Thunderbolt
* Mister Mxyzptlk
* Mopee
* Qwsp
Spiritual Realm
* Eclipso
* The Endless
* Davy Tenzer
* Gaia
* Hawkgod
* H’ronmeer
* Isis
* Kismet
* Lords of Chaos and Order
* Maya (creator of the elementals)
* Nekron
* Parliament of Flames
* Parliament of Stones
* Parliament of Trees
* Parliament of Vapors
* Parliament of Waves
* The Presence
* Rama Kushna
* The Source
* Spectre
* Voiceless Gods
* The Word
marvel cosmic enteties:
In the comic books published by Marvel Comics, cosmic entities (also referred to as cosmic beings) are fictional characters possessing superpowers on a planetary, stellar, galactic or even universal level, powers far beyond those of humans or conventional superheroes, and usually serving some natural function in the fictional universes in which they exist.
* Abraxas
* Adam Warlock with Infinity Gauntlet
* Agamotto
* Anti-Phoenix Force
* Apocalypse with the power of The Twelve
* Asgardian Destroyer
* Astaroth
* Astronomer
* Atum/Demogorge the God-Eater
* Balthakk
* Blackheart
* Beyonder - also called Kosmos, Cosmos and Maker
* Captain Marvel with Cosmic Awareness
* Captain Universe
* Celestials - race
* Caregiver
* Champion
* Collector
* Contemplator
* Chthon
* Cyttorak
* Dark Gods
* Death
* Dreamqueen
* Ego the Living Planet
* Elder Gods
* Elders of the Universe - last of their race
* Entropy
* Eon
* Epoch
* Era
* Eternals - race
* Eternity
* Explorer
* Farallah
* Franklin Richards aka Psi-Lord
* Gaea
* Galactus
* Grandmaster
* Gardener
* Hawk God of Arcturus
* Hyperstorm
* Ikonn
* Impossible Man
* Infiniti
* Infinity
* James Jaspers
* Judicator
* King Thor
* Korvac
* Krakkan
* Kubik
* Kulan Gath
* Living Tribunal
* Lord Chaos
* Maelstrom
* Malevolence
* Mangog
* Master Order
* Master Hate
* Mephisto
* Mistress Love
* Mister M
* Molecule Man
* Nebula with Infinity Gauntlet
* Nightmare
* Nth Man
* Numinus
* Obliterator
* Oblivion
* Odin
* One-Above-All
* Onslaught
* Origin
* Possessor
* Phoenix Force
* Protege
* Quasar
* Raggadorr
* Runner
* Satannish
* Sentry
* Set the Serpent God
* Shaper of Worlds
* Shuma-Gorath
* Silver Surfer
* the Stranger
* Thanos
* Thanos with Heart of the Universe
* Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet
* Trader (the Elder of the Universe)
* Tyrant
* Unbeing
* Uni-Lord
* Uni-Power
* Valeria Von Doom aka Marvel Girl (II)
* Valtorr
* The Vishanti
* Void
* Vortex
* Voyd
* Vulcan
* The Watchers - a cosmic race
* Watoomb
* Wolverine with Crystal of Ultimate Vision
* Zarathos
* Zeus
i’m not being mean but the new gods are dead so are most of the superheroes like superman and so on every 1 in the universes are dead at the end of the comics all dc has left is teen titans and the leguge of superheroes marvel has fantastic 4 and spiderman and dbgt has evryone sept krillin and piccloe
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Last edited 02 Jan 2008 08:39 pm by God Father of Goku and Jesus
batmite never died. neither did lobo. neither did Spectre. neither did the presence. neither did Auctioneer. neither did Highfather. neither did Metron. neither did Starro. neither did Kismet. neither is vext. X' Hal is imprisoned, but alive. Yuga Khan is alive. the race 'controllers' was never whipped out. neither were the Guardians of the Universe. neither were the Zamarons there area also still sun-eaters out there. and thats just the start of it.
Manchester Black wrote:
And what Ultima doesn’t seem to understand is that he would still assrape them.Mxy destroyed the multiverse and then brought it back cause he was bored.
superman whooped him though (pre-crisis or prime not sure)
God Father of Goku and Jesus wrote:
i’m not being mean but the new gods are dead so are most of the superheroes like superman and so on every 1 in the universes are dead at the end of the comics all dc has left is teen titans and the leguge of superheroes marvel has fantastic 4 and spiderman and dbgt has evryone sept krillin and piccloe
What are you talking about?How is Supes dead when his comics are still going on?Infact none of the guys you mentioned except for most of the new gods are dead.
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