Qwerty123456Abc wrote: Kratos is not bullet proof, and last time I checked bullets travel a tad faster than magical fireballs that can be dodged by moving while they are flying towards you! As opposed to Dante, who can move so fast he can cut bullets out of the air with a sword and shoot them out of the air with a gun.

Rage of Titans does NOT make Kratos invincible. He can still get hurt or die, it only reduces the damage he takes.

Dante + Untouchable Stars = Invincible Dante.
and im not even mentioning
Dante + Smell of Fear = Invincible to next three attacks.
Dante + Vortex = Invincible Dante.
Dante + Dreadnought = Invincible Dante.
Dante + Royal Guard = Nigh Invincible Dante (Timing required, though DMC4 fights proves that his timing for RG is flawless)
Dante + Desperation Devil Trigger = Mega powerful Dante with insane strength, speed, damage, powers, ability to fly and total Invincibility, and can be extended for prolonged periods of time (or indefinitely, if we’re talking Super Dante).

^That’s a **** load of invincibilities. Does Kratos have any means of invincibility?

... not that I can think of.

Dante can create an exact duplicate of himself (Doppleganger) that has the same weapons and abilities as he has, and is also completely 100% invulnerable. Even IF Kratos could fight off Dante, how is he going to fare against TWO Dante’s at the SAME time? One of them being completely invincible? WELL?

Quicksilver? Dante becomes so fast he could dance around Kratos, kick him in the nuts, then shoot him in the back of the head at point blank range. Bangle of Time? Same deal, except that Kratos won’t be able to move at all, as opposed to merely moving at a snails pace. And if you still insist that he can survive bullets, then just have Dante stick his Grenade Gun or Rocket Launcher into Kratos' mouth whilst using his time shift powers, and fire. Anyone that says Kratos can survive that is crazy, 'cause that would turn his skull into a fine spray of red mist.

Golden Fleece? Only works by blocking at the instant of an attack. It would provide no defence against continuous attacks (such as Vortex) or repeated rapid attacks (such as dual machine guns (DMC2) or E&I,) unless you can prove that he can repeatedly raise his arm faster than an endless stream of supersonic projectiles (bullets ARE that fast y’know). Nor will it work if Dante attacks too quickly (such as Quicksilver, or Bangle of Time, which offers Kratos no TIME to block or react).

Kratos can control time? Bull. He has an amulet that can slow time down BRIEFLY, and only if a special statue of Fate is nearbye. As for his 'mastery' over Fate, that power comes only from the mirrors of the Fates, last seen in a structure that was falling apart due to unknown reasons, and required Kratos to run about yanking on his OWN life thread, then quickly run back to a mirror. Not exactly an efficient, innate ability, huh? And again, if Dante’s own timeshifting powers are in play, Kratos wont even have time to THINK of doing anything, let alone actually DO anything (Bangle STOPS time dead remember?).

And oh yes, the whole 'Kratos came back from Hell, so there! Nah!'. Let me roll my eyes, because I can tell you now that is more BS from GoW fans hoping that DMC fans havent actually played GoW. Well I’ve played both, and the escaping from Hell routine is rubbish.

BOTH times when Kratos escaped Hell/Underworld, he did so ONLY with the help of someone more powerful than himself. The first time was because the gravedigger (massively hinted to be Zeus) dug a hole/portal into Hades for Kratos to escape. Without his help Kratos would have fought his way up through Hades in vain, and been left standing around like an idiot. Time two? Guess what, more help! Shock! Yes, the titan Gaia helped Kratos out on that one, and without her aid he’d be screwed.

So the whole 'Kratos is tough enough to escape Hell' routine is laughable. He can’t even manage it on his own, unlike Dante, who doesn’t actually die and go to Hell in the first place - he marches into Hell, kicks ass, and then leaves! All on his own! Compare the two then, and tell me who’s the tougher on that count?

All in all, Dante wins out. He has a ton of ways of becoming invincible, and even without them his speed, style and weaponry would let him steamroll all over Kratos without breaking a sweat. Dante survives being repeatedly impaled, and it doesn’t even bother him. Kratos was impaled twice, and twice it killed him, showing just how very mortal he is. He is no match for a Devil of Dante’s calibre.

Qwerty123456Abc wrote: What a bunch of fanboyish crap. If you have nothing to offer but your opinion, and no evidence or logical reasoning to back up your moronic assertion, then you are the fucking idiot 'my friend.

Rage of the Titans only gives Kratos a boost to his stats, but it doesnt make him invulnerable, doesnt let him fly, doesnt make him immune to time maniuplation, and doesn’t even begin to compare to Dante’s DDT ability. And your fucking stupid 'kan kill any being!' crap is just a stupid no-limits fallacy based on ... nothing at al, except your own stupid, biased, unfounded opinion that you just pulled out of your ass.

In short, if you can’t come up with an arguement beyond 'Me smart! You stupid! Kratos wins just cuz he is teh awesomest and kan killllll anyonthing in univerzs cas i sezy so so theress!!' then I think anyone with a brain can see who is the real idiot. Take your stupid fanboy whorish attitude and go kill yourself, thus doing the world a tremendous favour.

Matezoide wrote: Kratos wins this and i will explain what he haves to beat Dante:

weapowns: Kratos haves a high number of weapows and they are:

Atena Blades: Chained Blades that lets Kratos attacks from high distance and peform a lot of rapid and powerfull combos,also when he uses block with this weapow he becomes invunerable (hell,even Hidra bites cant hurt this guard)

Blade of Olimpus: The blade Zeus used to beat the titans,Zeus use it to steal Kratos power (and the one he used to give life to Rhodes),but Kratos eventualy recovers it and takes a part of Zeus power.can attack from far too

Lance of Destiny: a powerfull lance that lances atacks from a far distance and haves a great number of combos

War Hammer: a giant hammer,somewhat slow but takes a lot of damage when used,also can be used to SUMMON SPIRITS.

and a golden thing i forget the name,with lets Kratos deflects anything and trow it back to who shooted

skills: Kratos has proofed to have serious fighting skills,like the name he killed Ares without using any power or when nearly killed Zeus.he also killend Atena with a single move (by acident)

powers:

Super Strength: Kratos has showed to posses super-human strength more than once,like when he TROWED RHODES (Rhodes is somewhat 100 tons) WITHOUT HIS GOD OF WAR POWER

Super Resistance: Kratos has been stabed more than once by attacks,trowed from high distances and survived without a scratch.also he dont have to worry about fall,since it dont take his life (we lose when he falls at the sea at GOW 1 because it would be too hard to make him return,but he never was even scratched because falls)

Super Speed: Kratos has showed great reflects and high jumps,if you are a great GOW player you can beat a boss without taking a hit (i did when i fought the Hydra at the first GOW)

who Kratos killed:

A bunch of mitolical heroes (Teseu for example), Cerberus, Hydra, Minotaurs ,two gods (Ares and Atena),nearly killed Zeus, Medusa and his sister and the 3 beings who control the fate of EVERY ONE, mortal,god and titan (the sisters of fate) and getting her powers at the end.Kratos also escaped from the hell twice.

Magic:
Kratos has showed numeros magical attacks and they were

Rage of Poseidon: Kratos makes a camp of magic hurting everyone who comes and being invicible

Medusa head (not a magic at all): Kratos uses it to transform anyone in Stone

Zeus Rage: Kratos creats thunders on his hands and trows on his oponents

Hades army: Kratos creats spirits from the Hades army to attacks the enemies,they are a lot and invincible.takes a lot of time to disapear

Cronos Rage: Kratos creat thunder balls at the ground,with hits enemies from far.dont give a lot of damage at all,but gives the opening Kratos need to finish who he wanna kill

A magical Crowsbow (i forget the name) : shoots numeros arrows

Atlas Rage: Kratos slams his fists on the ground making stones be trowed on the enemies.


and something who everyone who thinks Dante wins forget:

For stop time,becomes a devil and makes a clone,he uses energy.with finishs very fast.if he uses one he will take a time to use it again or use another,but this dont happen to Kratos.

atributes:

Strength = Kratos wins (Dante never showed any super strength at all)

Resistance = hard to say,since both has taken swords and far worse and barely feeled (but,both has already feeled it like when Zeus stabed Kratos and killed him and when Dante lost to Vergil)

Speed = again hard to say,but probaly Dante

Reflexs = Kratos can stop any combo for protect himself in less than a second.he takes this one

Magic = both has showed numerous magic powers,but Kratos can use then a lot more in a row,Kratos takes this one too

Skills = hard to say,this one i call a draw.


Kratos takes Dante,sorry,but he do