| 01 Jan 2008 05:49 am |
The Magnificent Bastard Rep: 69  Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 19,620 | I see there is a fair bit of discussion on how the American school system is failing its students and how America has become the dumbest country in the world:/
well heres a chance to make sure that you are he exception to the rule.
here is a place to post any logic puzzles, brain teasers or other brain taxing problems for your fellow members to attempt to solve.
Your brain is a muscle and if you don’t work it, it atrophies so no cheating and work that muscle. ---

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The Magnificent Bastard Rep: 69  Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 19,620 | heres a few to get you started.
Imagine you are in a room with 3 switches. In an adjacent room there are 3 bulbs (let’s say in lamps which are on a regular table), each switch belongs to one bulb. All are off at the moment. It is impossible to see from one room to another. No help from anybody else is allowed.
How can you find out which switch belongs to which bulb, if you may enter the room with the bulbs only once?
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A table tennis ball (= a ping pong ball) fell into a tight deep pipe - it is about 30 cm long, buried in concrete pavement, having firm metal bottom, only 1 cm of the pipe is above the ground so it can not be moved. The pipe was only a bit wider then the ball, so you can not use your hand.
How would you take it out, with no damage?
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A man lives on the tenth floor of a building. Every morning he takes the elevator down to the lobby and leaves the building. In the evening, he gets into the elevator, and, if there is someone else in the elevator - or if it was raining that day - he goes back to his floor directly. Otherwise, he goes to the seventh floor and walks up three flights of stairs to his apartment. How come?
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How can you throw a ball as hard as you can and have it come back to you, even if it doesn’t hit anything, there is nothing attached to it, and no one else catches or throws it?
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Let’s say some primitive organisms divide themselves every minute in two equal parts that are the same size as the original organism, and which also divide the next minute and so on. The saucer in which we started observing this process was full at 12.00.
When was it half full?
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There were 4 angels on a Christmas tree (besides other frou-frou). Two had a blue aureole and two yellow, however none of them can see behind his head. Angel A is on the highest place and he can see angels B and C, which hang below him. Below hangs angel B, who can see only angel C under him. Angel C can’t see anybody, because angel D hangs under a twig (nobody can see him and he can not see anyone either).
Which one of them will be the first to speak his guess out load (deduce and say) what his own aureole is?
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  | | | 01 Jan 2008 05:59 am |
King John nli Guest | firewolf81 wrote:
How can you throw a ball as hard as you can and have it come back to you, even if it doesn’t hit anything, there is nothing attached to it, and no one else catches or throws it?
you throw it up | | | 01 Jan 2008 05:59 am |
The Magnificent Bastard Rep: 69  Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 19,620 | King John nli wrote:
firewolf81 wrote:
How can you throw a ball as hard as you can and have it come back to you, even if it doesn’t hit anything, there is nothing attached to it, and no one else catches or throws it?
you throw it up
CORRECT! ---

  | | | 01 Jan 2008 06:12 am |
Nevae Anariva Rep: 49  Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 9,975 | A table tennis ball (= a ping pong ball) fell into a tight deep pipe - it is about 30 cm long, buried in concrete pavement, having firm metal bottom, only 1 cm of the pipe is above the ground so it can not be moved. The pipe was only a bit wider then the ball, so you can not use your hand.
How would you take it out, with no damage?
Vacuum cleaner? (good one I may add) ---
 | | | 01 Jan 2008 06:27 am |
OWNED BY SA-X Rep: 64  Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 13,669 OFFLINE | firewolf81 wrote:
heres a few to get you started.
Imagine you are in a room with 3 switches. In an adjacent room there are 3 bulbs (let’s say in lamps which are on a regular table), each switch belongs to one bulb. All are off at the moment. It is impossible to see from one room to another. No help from anybody else is allowed.
How can you find out which switch belongs to which bulb, if you may enter the room with the bulbs only once?
Well I sat here for awhile..
Thinking..
About maybe turning one on, leaving it on for awhile to let it warm, turn it off quickly, turn another one on and leave one off..
The one that’s warm belongs to the first switch, the one that’s on belongs to the switch you turned on before entering the room, and the one that’s off is the last switch you didn’t touch..
OR!
Just bring the lights into the room through the door.. (They are lamps on cords, right? Lol.)
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A table tennis ball (= a ping pong ball) fell into a tight deep pipe - it is about 30 cm long, buried in concrete pavement, having firm metal bottom, only 1 cm of the pipe is above the ground so it can not be moved. The pipe was only a bit wider then the ball, so you can not use your hand.
How would you take it out, with no damage?
Suck it out?
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A man lives on the tenth floor of a building. Every morning he takes the elevator down to the lobby and leaves the building. In the evening, he gets into the elevator, and, if there is someone else in the elevator - or if it was raining that day - he goes back to his floor directly. Otherwise, he goes to the seventh floor and walks up three flights of stairs to his apartment. How come?
To get excersize?
Or..
Maybe he lives on the top floor and the elevator goes to his apartment and the stairs go to an outside part of his floor?
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How can you throw a ball as hard as you can and have it come back to you, even if it doesn’t hit anything, there is nothing attached to it, and no one else catches or throws it?
Maybe you throw it so hard it gets stuck in the atmosphere and circles around the world.
Or you throw it straight up or against the wind. =/
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Let’s say some primitive organisms divide themselves every minute in two equal parts that are the same size as the original organism, and which also divide the next minute and so on. The saucer in which we started observing this process was full at 12.00.
When was it half full?
One minute before?
I think..
-Thinks.-
It doubles every minute..
So yeah, one minute before.. Or 11:59.
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There were 4 angels on a Christmas tree (besides other frou-frou). Two had a blue aureole and two yellow, however none of them can see behind his head. Angel A is on the highest place and he can see angels B and C, which hang below him. Below hangs angel B, who can see only angel C under him. Angel C can’t see anybody, because angel D hangs under a twig (nobody can see him and he can not see anyone either).
Which one of them will be the first to speak his guess out load (deduce and say) what his own aureole is?
Angel A. He can see the other two angels and make the best guess. Unless Angel B and C had different colors, than B, because he’d know (If he was smart enough.) That he didn’t have the same color as angel C.
BTW. This one is really close to a cannibal one I once did in school.
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I love puzzles. ^^ ---
 | | | 01 Jan 2008 06:59 am |
The Magnificent Bastard Rep: 69  Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 19,620 | Tyreaus wrote:
A table tennis ball (= a ping pong ball) fell into a tight deep pipe - it is about 30 cm long, buried in concrete pavement, having firm metal bottom, only 1 cm of the pipe is above the ground so it can not be moved. The pipe was only a bit wider then the ball, so you can not use your hand.
How would you take it out, with no damage?
Vacuum cleaner? (good one I may add)
A possible solution but not the easiest one as it relies on power to get the vacuum cleaner to work, tis real easy and absolute answer requires no electricity  ---

  | | | 01 Jan 2008 07:06 am |
The Magnificent Bastard Rep: 69  Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 19,620 | Green_Ninja wrote:
firewolf81 wrote:
heres a few to get you started.
Imagine you are in a room with 3 switches. In an adjacent room there are 3 bulbs (let’s say in lamps which are on a regular table), each switch belongs to one bulb. All are off at the moment. It is impossible to see from one room to another. No help from anybody else is allowed.
How can you find out which switch belongs to which bulb, if you may enter the room with the bulbs only once?
Well I sat here for awhile..
Thinking..
About maybe turning one on, leaving it on for awhile to let it warm, turn it off quickly, turn another one on and leave one off..
The one that’s warm belongs to the first switch, the one that’s on belongs to the switch you turned on before entering the room, and the one that’s off is the last switch you didn’t touch..
CORRECT!
OR!
Just bring the lights into the room through the door.. (They are lamps on cords, right? Lol.)
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A table tennis ball (= a ping pong ball) fell into a tight deep pipe - it is about 30 cm long, buried in concrete pavement, having firm metal bottom, only 1 cm of the pipe is above the ground so it can not be moved. The pipe was only a bit wider then the ball, so you can not use your hand.
How would you take it out, with no damage?
Suck it out?
see my response to tyreaus’s answer
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A man lives on the tenth floor of a building. Every morning he takes the elevator down to the lobby and leaves the building. In the evening, he gets into the elevator, and, if there is someone else in the elevator - or if it was raining that day - he goes back to his floor directly. Otherwise, he goes to the seventh floor and walks up three flights of stairs to his apartment. How come?
To get excersize?
Or..
Maybe he lives on the top floor and the elevator goes to his apartment and the stairs go to an outside part of his floor?
WRONG!
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How can you throw a ball as hard as you can and have it come back to you, even if it doesn’t hit anything, there is nothing attached to it, and no one else catches or throws it?
Maybe you throw it so hard it gets stuck in the atmosphere and circles around the world.
Or you throw it straight up or against the wind. =/
^^
CORRECT!
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Let’s say some primitive organisms divide themselves every minute in two equal parts that are the same size as the original organism, and which also divide the next minute and so on. The saucer in which we started observing this process was full at 12.00.
When was it half full?
One minute before?
I think..
-Thinks.-
It doubles every minute..
So yeah, one minute before.. Or 11:59.
CORRECT!
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There were 4 angels on a Christmas tree (besides other frou-frou). Two had a blue aureole and two yellow, however none of them can see behind his head. Angel A is on the highest place and he can see angels B and C, which hang below him. Below hangs angel B, who can see only angel C under him. Angel C can’t see anybody, because angel D hangs under a twig (nobody can see him and he can not see anyone either).
Which one of them will be the first to speak his guess out load (deduce and say) what his own aureole is?
Angel A. He can see the other two angels and make the best guess. Unless Angel B and C had different colors, than B, because he’d know (If he was smart enough.) That he didn’t have the same color as angel C.
BTW. This one is really close to a cannibal one I once did in school.
CORRECT!
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I love puzzles. ^^
as do I  ---

  | | | 01 Jan 2008 07:11 am |
OWNED BY SA-X Rep: 64  Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 13,669 OFFLINE | firewolf81 wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
A table tennis ball (= a ping pong ball) fell into a tight deep pipe - it is about 30 cm long, buried in concrete pavement, having firm metal bottom, only 1 cm of the pipe is above the ground so it can not be moved. The pipe was only a bit wider then the ball, so you can not use your hand.
How would you take it out, with no damage?
Vacuum cleaner? (good one I may add)
A possible solution but not the easiest one as it relies on power to get the vacuum cleaner to work, tis real easy and absolute answer requires no electricity 
Ummmm..
No clue, Lol.
Give me a few minutes to rack my brain. ---
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OWNED BY SA-X Rep: 64  Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 13,669 OFFLINE | Nope. I give up. ---
 | | | 01 Jan 2008 07:57 am |
The Magnificent Bastard Rep: 69  Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 19,620 | solution pm’d to u. ---

  | | | 01 Jan 2008 08:04 am |
OWNED BY SA-X Rep: 64  Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 13,669 OFFLINE | Yeah, it’s amazing how simple the answers are, Lol.
Gee.
Why didn’t I think of that? Lol. ---
 | | | 01 Jan 2008 09:51 am |
bahaha--its me Guest | A man lives on the tenth floor of a building. Every morning he takes the elevator down to the lobby and leaves the building. In the evening, he gets into the elevator, and, if there is someone else in the elevator - or if it was raining that day - he goes back to his floor directly. Otherwise, he goes to the seventh floor and walks up three flights of stairs to his apartment. How come?
cuz he too short. cant reach past button 7. on rainy day he has umbrella he can reach. or he ask someone else to press button for him. | | | 01 Jan 2008 10:59 am |
The Magnificent Bastard Rep: 69  Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 19,620 | [quote=bahaha — its me]A man lives on the tenth floor of a building. Every morning he takes the elevator down to the lobby and leaves the building. In the evening, he gets into the elevator, and, if there is someone else in the elevator - or if it was raining that day - he goes back to his floor directly. Otherwise, he goes to the seventh floor and walks up three flights of stairs to his apartment. How come?
cuz he too short. cant reach past button 7. on rainy day he has umbrella he can reach. or he ask someone else to press button for him.
CORRECT!---

  | | | 01 Jan 2008 01:12 pm |
Wannabe Rep: 0  Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 89 OFFLINE |
A table tennis ball (= a ping pong ball) fell into a tight deep pipe - it is about 30 cm long, buried in concrete pavement, having firm metal bottom, only 1 cm of the pipe is above the ground so it can not be moved. The pipe was only a bit wider then the ball, so you can not use your hand.
How would you take it out, with no damage?
fill the pipe with water
A man lives on the tenth floor of a building. Every morning he takes the elevator down to the lobby and leaves the building. In the evening, he gets into the elevator, and, if there is someone else in the elevator - or if it was raining that day - he goes back to his floor directly. Otherwise, he goes to the seventh floor and walks up three flights of stairs to his apartment. How come?
he is a midget and uses his umbrella to hit the top button
How can you throw a ball as hard as you can and have it come back to you, even if it doesn’t hit anything, there is nothing attached to it, and no one else catches or throws it?
throw it straight up in the air
Let’s say some primitive organisms divide themselves every minute in two equal parts that are the same size as the original organism, and which also divide the next minute and so on. The saucer in which we started observing this process was full at 12.00.
When was it half full?
11.59 Last edited 01 Jan 2008 02:50 pm by banned | | | 01 Jan 2008 02:16 pm | | | 01 Jan 2008 02:35 pm |
SAMOŠ Rep: 34  Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 15,712 ONLINE | first off, i didn’t read any of the answers, so if i make a fool of myself, thats why. XD
firewolf81 wrote:
heres a few to get you started.
Imagine you are in a room with 3 switches. In an adjacent room there are 3 bulbs (let’s say in lamps which are on a regular table), each switch belongs to one bulb. All are off at the moment. It is impossible to see from one room to another. No help from anybody else is allowed.
How can you find out which switch belongs to which bulb, if you may enter the room with the bulbs only once?
well..you could cheat and use your one trip to set up some mirrors, but i don’t think thats the answer your looking for here...idk how you’d do it.
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A table tennis ball (= a ping pong ball) fell into a tight deep pipe - it is about 30 cm long, buried in concrete pavement, having firm metal bottom, only 1 cm of the pipe is above the ground so it can not be moved. The pipe was only a bit wider then the ball, so you can not use your hand.
How would you take it out, with no damage?
fill it with water, assuming it is closed at the bottom, which it would have to be for the ball to still be in there.
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A man lives on the tenth floor of a building. Every morning he takes the elevator down to the lobby and leaves the building. In the evening, he gets into the elevator, and, if there is someone else in the elevator - or if it was raining that day - he goes back to his floor directly. Otherwise, he goes to the seventh floor and walks up three flights of stairs to his apartment. How come?
the only thing i can think of is his apartment is on the seventh floor, and there are three flights of stairs to get into it somehow.
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How can you throw a ball as hard as you can and have it come back to you, even if it doesn’t hit anything, there is nothing attached to it, and no one else catches or throws it?
mmk, i saw this one accidentally, but i would have gotten it. you throw it up.
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Let’s say some primitive organisms divide themselves every minute in two equal parts that are the same size as the original organism, and which also divide the next minute and so on. The saucer in which we started observing this process was full at 12.00.
When was it half full?
i got this problem in a math class a few years ago. lol. 11.59.
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There were 4 angels on a Christmas tree (besides other frou-frou). Two had a blue aureole and two yellow, however none of them can see behind his head. Angel A is on the highest place and he can see angels B and C, which hang below him. Below hangs angel B, who can see only angel C under him. Angel C can’t see anybody, because angel D hangs under a twig (nobody can see him and he can not see anyone either).
Which one of them will be the first to speak his guess out load (deduce and say) what his own aureole is?
i don’t know if i’m looking at this wrong, but i would think that it depends. if b and c have the same color, then a would know instantly what his is. if not, then b would be the first to guess because he only has one color influencing him, so he would automaticaly just pick the other.
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SAMOŠ Rep: 34  Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 15,712 ONLINE | daaaaaang, i should have gotten the elevator and light ones. oh well. ---
 | | | 02 Jan 2008 01:14 am |
Regular Rep: 0  Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 186 OFFLINE | yeah... the only ones i know have already been answered... you fill the pipe with water to get the ball... and the man who takes the elevator is a midget... when it rains he can use his umbrella... ---
 | | | 02 Jan 2008 01:51 am |
Regular Rep: 3  Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 662 OFFLINE | I have one. In a cage of parrots, each of the parrots can see an equal number of female and male parrots, but each male parrot sees twice as many females as male parrots. How many parrots are there in total?
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One day, RockMan_Kenny offered me an earthenware jug containing a liquid the he swore would turn everything it came into contact with into gold. I knew it was rubbish. How come?
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In a hot air balloon, over the Indian Ocean, I dropped two coke bottles over the side. If one was full and one was empty, which hit the ground first?
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A man is awake night after night without getting a wink of sleep, yet he doesn’t feel tired. Why? ---
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