Rap is noted for its lyrical content, although i must admit that rap nowadays is known for its catchy percussion. Rock is noted more for its instrumental beats. I’m not saying that rock doesn’t put out good lyrics, but rock is distinct in it lyrical structure. In rap, there is normally a rhythmic pattern to the poetic content put forth. In rock, it is hard to distinguish a rhythmic pattern in the lyrics (in terms of stressed and unstressed words). Rap normally stresses the rhymes in its lyrics, rock tends to smoothen out those rhyme s so that they become one with the song.
Personally, I like rap better (not the rap put rap artists such as Gang Starr, Nas, Common, Mos Def, and etc, they talk about social issues that confronted them at the time. It is easy to relate to these issues because there is a common struggle that binds them altogether. I think the reason why I like rap more is because of its lyrical content, not because of its instrumental background. I do see that in rock, but the lyrical content in most rock songs that I listen do not compare. I have to admit, however, rock is more elaborate and complex in its instrumentals. The only real hip hop artist I feel has good instrumentals is Wyclef Jean, who blends a variety of instruments in his tracks. By instrumentals, I mean more than just percussion. I know there are not only percussions in rap but rap is usually known for its beats than any other type of instrumental background.
This the mufuckin truth right here, and exactly what I’ve been trying to tell all the haters on either genre. I love both. Acid rap is really cool, but sometimes you just gotta have pure rock or pure rap.
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Thank you. I personally am not a Rap fan, but I do respect the true rap out there. Both genres take alot of talent, and people on either the rock or rap side need to start accepting each other.
But one thing about your post SPEAKERZZ, rock does have great lyrical talent, just as good as rap. Rap just has more lyrics in a song. Rock, because alot of the focus is on instrumentals, does not write as much lyrics. Great rock lyrics are Pink floyd, another brick in the wall part two, Black Sabbath by Black Sabbath, and Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin. And of course, if you want something funny, AC/DC’s song Big Balls is a good choice.
petrofsky wrote:
But one thing about your post SPEAKERZZ, rock does have great lyrical talent, just as good as rap. Rap just has more lyrics in a song. Rock, because alot of the focus is on instrumentals, does not write as much lyrics. Great rock lyrics are Pink floyd, another brick in the wall part two, Black Sabbath by Black Sabbath, and Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin. And of course, if you want something funny, AC/DC’s song Big Balls is a good choice.
I know but I love rock instrumentals, they dont even need to sing for it to beed a good song, I feel the lyrics and beat are inverse between rock and rap while rap focuses on lyrics roc kfocuses on the instrumentals the lyrics in a rock song and the beat in a rap song make it even better though
Yes. Alot of pink floyd mainly focusses on the message and the feeling told through the lyrics. That is why pink floyd was one of the huge inspirations for rap. If you listen to alot of their stuff, you can hear the influence rap got from it.
yeah i’m not trying to put down rock artists in terms of lyrical content. i am very sure there are a lot of rock artists with great lyrics but i think we can all agree that most of the time, rock is loved for its instrumentals and rap is vice versa.
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:
Rap and rock are the same concepts and ideas expressed in different ways.
Indeed. Rock and Rap both have one cause that is the same thing. And that is to say this world fucking sucks, but hell, we will sing about it to show others how we feel.
People might think that rock focuses more on instruments than rap because the instrumentalists get more credit than they do in rap. Like, in “rock” (which people I think are using here to cover any rock-influenced genre such as metal), all the members get credit and contribute to the overall sound, however there are normally more instruments than vocalists (normally about 4 instrumentalists and one singer), so it might seem like it’s more important.
Rap sometimes doesn’t put much focus on the music part at all (such as freestyling with no music), and normally the music is either produced via electronics or with a group of people that normally isn’t too consistent. That’s not to say all rap is like this, the guitar solos in Run-DMC’s “Raising Hell” make me hard all over the place.
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kev360 wrote:
i personally really don’t like rap, but thats probably more of a cultural thing then anything else. it just doesn’t appeal to me.
but, your reasons, thats probably why i like rapping over rock so much. its like the perfect blend of music.
oh, and, as petrofsky said, don’t dismiss rock lyrics that easily. pink floyd, for example, is all about lyrics.
wouldnt you say the instrumental is weighed a little bit more though?
in most rock, yeah, but there are exceptions.
ofcourse, some of the best rap songs (in my opinion) are the rock instrumentals with the rap lyrics they go so good together
one example - jay-z and linkin park
but rock artists and rap artists don’t really share the same concept. that’s where i disagree. many rap artists talk about ethnic struggles because of the fact that they are a minority suppressed by a very republican-like government (not in terms of real republicans or democrats). rock artists don’t normally convey that idea because they were rarely brought up under that kin of minority suppression. In rock, i see more personal struggles rather than social struggles such as relationships and what not. I’m not trying to stereotype all rock, but i personally hear it in many of the songs i listen to. rap seems to convey social issues (eg. talib kweli - who is one of the best frontrunners of social conscious hip hop).
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