Red_Calibur9 wrote:
So, is the One Piece team on the pirates side?
If they are I fear for what they will do to the ninjas...
lol.. If One Piece was included, we’d get to base the Ninja on Japanese Lore.. Meaning these Ninjas can teleport, use magic, fly, become invisible, and duplicate themselves.
In other words. One Piece pirates would lose.
If that’s all the mythical ninjas can do, then I’m sorry, but the One Piece pirates would destroy them.
How so? Luffy attacks, ninja turns invisible, teleports behind luffy, and burns him alive, freezes him, poisons him, or cuts his head off. Same thing for all the other One Piece pirates. But Ninja were also said to be immortal and immune to damage. So there’s no way beat them.
Atresac wrote:
Pirates wouldn’t just let anyone aboard their ship. THey’re not dumb.
Dude.. Real pirates would take over other ships, take their crew as prisoners, and even invite some of them into their own crew. If they got a lead on a lot of gold.. I.E.. Another ship (full of Shinobi) they’ll take the lead without much thought.
Not without making sure that they were secured in a place where they couldn’t just escape as if they were their best friends.
It didn’t matter. They stripped those prisoners of weapons and sell them off as slaves. They always took the other crew because it was extra money.
So then it’d be half of the crew of ninjas on the pirate’s ship, and the other half are already slaves. Things aren’t looking good for the ninjas, especially since a tiny screw up could mean a keelhauling.
Kyle Knight wrote:
so why do some people think Pirate’s me wonder’s...is it cus of Pirate’s of the Caribean??? lmfao
Nah. Deep down everybody knows that a pirate can’t win in a fight.
Manchester is a One Piece fan, so that’s probably why he votes Pirates. Atresac and Weeman think they’re more “manly” Red Calibur.. Ehh.. No idea.
Not only am I a One Piece fan, I believe pirates are more manly than ninjas!
Also, pirates has guns.
ok, but ninjas aren’t retarded. anyways, you want proof for ninja’s being greater then pirates? its time to ASK A NINJA.
ask a ninja is funny, but doesn’t prove that ninjas could beat a pirate.
eh, proves that ninjas could bring down krakens np, which is something that pirates seem to have a lot of trouble with.
ANYWAYS, ninjas are all about expertise and control. it is basically like an army of well trained spies/secret agents/whatever, vs a bunch of bandits. honestly, the pirates don’t even stand a chance.
Because that’s such a reliable source.
Anyway, ninja are about lying and being general douches. Like going up to a samurai with their back to them, because they knew samurai couldn’t attack an enemy from behind, then turn around to kill them. Ninja weren’t about expertise or control so much as they were about sneaking and stealing. They rarely ever had to actually fight anyone. Ever. Pirates have more fighting experience, thus are better suit for such a battle.
thats exactly why they would win. who needs honer? ninjas would destroy the pirates by being little pricks. and, ninjas are amazing fighters. the 18 disciplines that were taught to both ninja and samuri as standard were these:
1. Seishin-teki kyōyō (spiritual refinement)
2. Taijutsu (unarmed combat, using one’s body as the only weapon)
3. Kenjutsu (sword fighting)
4. Bōjutsu (stick and staff fighting)
5. Shurikenjutsu (throwing shuriken)
6. Sōjutsu (spear fighting)
7. Naginatajutsu (naginata fighting)
8. Kusarigamajutsu (kusarigama fighting)
9. Kayakujutsu (pyrotechnics and explosives)
10. Hensōjutsu (disguise and impersonation)
11. Shinobi-iri (stealth and entering methods)
12. Bajutsu (horsemanship)
13. Sui-ren (water training)
14. Bōryaku (military strategy)
15. Chōhō (espionage)
16. Intonjutsu (escaping and concealment)
17. Tenmon (meteorology)
18. Chi-mon (geography)
ninjas were EXPERT fighters.
They might have been trained in that, but ninjas never, or very rarely, came to a point where they needed any of that. They would sneak into a palace and kill their target while he was sleeping.
Knowing something isn’t the same as using it. Manchester said that Bruce Lee admitted he would lose to Ali.
eh, true enough, but the fact remains, they wouldn’t be pushovers. but, really, how hard is it to assassinate a drunken man?
kev360 wrote:
well, they did wear black, just not necessarily all black. but, they would have worn all black colors, unless they had a deathwish.
No, real Ninja blended in with the people around them. Wearing normal clothes so that you wouldn’t be able to tell them apart from the common man. They NEVER wore all black unless they wanted to be seen in order to perpetuate one of the many myths they spread about themselves.
Kyle Knight wrote:
so why do some people think Pirate’s me wonder’s...is it cus of Pirate’s of the Caribean??? lmfao
Nah. Deep down everybody knows that a pirate can’t win in a fight.
Manchester is a One Piece fan, so that’s probably why he votes Pirates. Atresac and Weeman think they’re more “manly” Red Calibur.. Ehh.. No idea.
Not only am I a One Piece fan, I believe pirates are more manly than ninjas!
Also, pirates has guns.
ok, but ninjas aren’t retarded. anyways, you want proof for ninja’s being greater then pirates? its time to ASK A NINJA.
ask a ninja is funny, but doesn’t prove that ninjas could beat a pirate.
eh, proves that ninjas could bring down krakens np, which is something that pirates seem to have a lot of trouble with.
ANYWAYS, ninjas are all about expertise and control. it is basically like an army of well trained spies/secret agents/whatever, vs a bunch of bandits. honestly, the pirates don’t even stand a chance.
Because that’s such a reliable source.
Anyway, ninja are about lying and being general douches. Like going up to a samurai with their back to them, because they knew samurai couldn’t attack an enemy from behind, then turn around to kill them. Ninja weren’t about expertise or control so much as they were about sneaking and stealing. They rarely ever had to actually fight anyone. Ever. Pirates have more fighting experience, thus are better suit for such a battle.
thats exactly why they would win. who needs honer? ninjas would destroy the pirates by being little pricks. and, ninjas are amazing fighters. the 18 disciplines that were taught to both ninja and samuri as standard were these:
1. Seishin-teki kyōyō (spiritual refinement)
2. Taijutsu (unarmed combat, using one’s body as the only weapon)
3. Kenjutsu (sword fighting)
4. Bōjutsu (stick and staff fighting)
5. Shurikenjutsu (throwing shuriken)
6. Sōjutsu (spear fighting)
7. Naginatajutsu (naginata fighting)
8. Kusarigamajutsu (kusarigama fighting)
9. Kayakujutsu (pyrotechnics and explosives)
10. Hensōjutsu (disguise and impersonation)
11. Shinobi-iri (stealth and entering methods)
12. Bajutsu (horsemanship)
13. Sui-ren (water training)
14. Bōryaku (military strategy)
15. Chōhō (espionage)
16. Intonjutsu (escaping and concealment)
17. Tenmon (meteorology)
18. Chi-mon (geography)
ninjas were EXPERT fighters.
They might have been trained in that, but ninjas never, or very rarely, came to a point where they needed any of that. They would sneak into a palace and kill their target while he was sleeping.
Knowing something isn’t the same as using it. Manchester said that Bruce Lee admitted he would lose to Ali.
eh, true enough, but the fact remains, they wouldn’t be pushovers. but, really, how hard is it to assassinate a drunken man?
Why don’t you ask the practically entire navy that had to take out blackbeard?
Cid Highwind wrote:
lol.. If One Piece was included, we’d get to base the Ninja on Japanese Lore.. Meaning these Ninjas can teleport, use magic, fly, become invisible, and duplicate themselves.
Atresac wrote:
Pirates wouldn’t just let anyone aboard their ship. THey’re not dumb.
Dude.. Real pirates would take over other ships, take their crew as prisoners, and even invite some of them into their own crew. If they got a lead on a lot of gold.. I.E.. Another ship (full of Shinobi) they’ll take the lead without much thought.
Not without making sure that they were secured in a place where they couldn’t just escape as if they were their best friends.
It didn’t matter. They stripped those prisoners of weapons and sell them off as slaves. They always took the other crew because it was extra money.
So then it’d be half of the crew of ninjas on the pirate’s ship, and the other half are already slaves. Things aren’t looking good for the ninjas, especially since a tiny screw up could mean a keelhauling.
No, when the entire Ninja crew were on the pirate ship, they’d start their attack, in secrecy. The enslaved Ninja, probably about 8 men would be watched by two maybe three pirate. These three pirates would be the first pirates killed. The captured ninja would have hidden small weapons on them, most likely poison darts, and would kill their watchers. Then they’d go up top and take out the rest of the pirate crew.
Cid Highwind wrote:
lol.. If One Piece was included, we’d get to base the Ninja on Japanese Lore.. Meaning these Ninjas can teleport, use magic, fly, become invisible, and duplicate themselves.
In other words. One Piece pirates would lose.
They would never be able to defeat Logias
I’ve no idea who Logais is, but I’m sure he can’t defeat an immortal, invincible, enemy.
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
So, is the One Piece team on the pirates side?
If they are I fear for what they will do to the ninjas...
lol.. If One Piece was included, we’d get to base the Ninja on Japanese Lore.. Meaning these Ninjas can teleport, use magic, fly, become invisible, and duplicate themselves.
In other words. One Piece pirates would lose.
If that’s all the mythical ninjas can do, then I’m sorry, but the One Piece pirates would destroy them.
How so? Luffy attacks, ninja turns invisible, teleports behind luffy, and burns him alive, freezes him, poisons him, or cuts his head off. Same thing for all the other One Piece pirates. But Ninja were also said to be immortal and immune to damage. So there’s no way beat them.
All right, you realize Luffy has fought people that can move so fast that they can’t be seen? He whoops them. Bellamy wasn’t even running, bouncing all over so fast that he was invisible. Luffy dented his face. Literally. Luffy sees you when you’re sleeping. He knows when you awake. He knows if you’re a ninja now, so be a pirate for Roger’s sake! Oh!
Cid Highwind wrote:
How so? Luffy attacks, ninja turns invisible, teleports behind luffy, and burns him alive,
That fire better be hotter than 30,000 degrees.
Cid Highwind wrote:
freezes him,
They better have ice colder than Aokiji.He froze the ocean for a week.
Cid Highwind wrote:
poisons him,
Luffy was poisoned by Crocodile.Crocodiles poison melted rock on contact...
Cid Highwind wrote:
or cuts his head off.
Please.Kuro moved so fast he couldn’t be seen or control where he went.Luffy was dodging his attacks.Now that was 300 chapters ago...
Cid Highwind wrote:
Same thing for all the other One Piece pirates. But Ninja were also said to be immortal and immune to damage. So there’s no way beat them.
Logias are immortal.Hitting them causes them to turn into whatever element they are.
Cid Highwind wrote:
I’ve no idea who Logais is, but I’m sure he can’t defeat an immortal, invincible, enemy.
Guys like Ace,Eneru,and Blackbeard(they have more but I’m trying to stick it purely to pirates).With the execption of Blackbeard they are pretty much invincible.Punching Ace causes him to turn to fire and Eneru lighting. Blackbeard controls gravity and can make blackholes.
Atresac wrote:
Pirates wouldn’t just let anyone aboard their ship. THey’re not dumb.
Dude.. Real pirates would take over other ships, take their crew as prisoners, and even invite some of them into their own crew. If they got a lead on a lot of gold.. I.E.. Another ship (full of Shinobi) they’ll take the lead without much thought.
Not without making sure that they were secured in a place where they couldn’t just escape as if they were their best friends.
It didn’t matter. They stripped those prisoners of weapons and sell them off as slaves. They always took the other crew because it was extra money.
So then it’d be half of the crew of ninjas on the pirate’s ship, and the other half are already slaves. Things aren’t looking good for the ninjas, especially since a tiny screw up could mean a keelhauling.
No, when the entire Ninja crew were on the pirate ship, they’d start their attack, in secrecy. The enslaved Ninja, probably about 8 men would be watched by two maybe three pirate. These three pirates would be the first pirates killed. The captured ninja would have hidden small weapons on them, most likely poison darts, and would kill their watchers. Then they’d go up top and take out the rest of the pirate crew.
The pirates would take note of their presence, and kill them easily. It’s not that hard to kill a ninja once he’s been exposed, and killing the guard pirates and escaping would expose them.
Atresac wrote:
Pirates wouldn’t just let anyone aboard their ship. THey’re not dumb.
Dude.. Real pirates would take over other ships, take their crew as prisoners, and even invite some of them into their own crew. If they got a lead on a lot of gold.. I.E.. Another ship (full of Shinobi) they’ll take the lead without much thought.
Not without making sure that they were secured in a place where they couldn’t just escape as if they were their best friends.
It didn’t matter. They stripped those prisoners of weapons and sell them off as slaves. They always took the other crew because it was extra money.
So then it’d be half of the crew of ninjas on the pirate’s ship, and the other half are already slaves. Things aren’t looking good for the ninjas, especially since a tiny screw up could mean a keelhauling.
No, when the entire Ninja crew were on the pirate ship, they’d start their attack, in secrecy. The enslaved Ninja, probably about 8 men would be watched by two maybe three pirate. These three pirates would be the first pirates killed. The captured ninja would have hidden small weapons on them, most likely poison darts, and would kill their watchers. Then they’d go up top and take out the rest of the pirate crew.
The pirates would take note of their presence, and kill them easily. It’s not that hard to kill a ninja once he’s been exposed, and killing the guard pirates and escaping would expose them.
Pirates would be spread out across the ship. Some would be sleeping and the others on night watch. They’d be in all areas of the ship, probably two pirates on the deck, 2 pirates sleeping, the captain would be sleeping. 2 or 3 pirates already dead. It wouldn’t be hard for a crew of 10 ninja to kill the rest of the pirate crew. Let’s not forget that now all of the pirate crew would be adept at fighting too. The navigator wouldn’t know how to handle a sword and there’s a chance that the captain wouldn’t either.
Pirates weren’t master shots with their pistols either. And then take into account that half of the time their pistols wouldn’t even fire unless they were freshly loaded because the gunpowder would be moist from the moisture in the air at sea.
Atresac wrote:
Pirates wouldn’t just let anyone aboard their ship. THey’re not dumb.
Dude.. Real pirates would take over other ships, take their crew as prisoners, and even invite some of them into their own crew. If they got a lead on a lot of gold.. I.E.. Another ship (full of Shinobi) they’ll take the lead without much thought.
Not without making sure that they were secured in a place where they couldn’t just escape as if they were their best friends.
It didn’t matter. They stripped those prisoners of weapons and sell them off as slaves. They always took the other crew because it was extra money.
So then it’d be half of the crew of ninjas on the pirate’s ship, and the other half are already slaves. Things aren’t looking good for the ninjas, especially since a tiny screw up could mean a keelhauling.
No, when the entire Ninja crew were on the pirate ship, they’d start their attack, in secrecy. The enslaved Ninja, probably about 8 men would be watched by two maybe three pirate. These three pirates would be the first pirates killed. The captured ninja would have hidden small weapons on them, most likely poison darts, and would kill their watchers. Then they’d go up top and take out the rest of the pirate crew.
The pirates would take note of their presence, and kill them easily. It’s not that hard to kill a ninja once he’s been exposed, and killing the guard pirates and escaping would expose them.
Pirates would be spread out across the ship. Some would be sleeping and the others on night watch. They’d be in all areas of the ship, probably two pirates on the deck, 2 pirates sleeping, the captain would be sleeping. 2 or 3 pirates already dead. It wouldn’t be hard for a crew of 10 ninja to kill the rest of the pirate crew. Let’s not forget that now all of the pirate crew would be adept at fighting too. The navigator wouldn’t know how to handle a sword and there’s a chance that the captain wouldn’t either.
Pirates weren’t master shots with their pistols either. And then take into account that half of the time their pistols wouldn’t even fire unless they were freshly loaded because the gunpowder would be moist from the moisture in the air at sea.
Seriously.. Pirates couldn’t win.
Wait so now it’s 6 pirates vs. 10 ninja? No. It’s an even fight. And since half of the ninja have been sold off already you’re saying that it started off 20 ninja vs. 6 or 7 pirates? Wrong wrong wrong wrong.
Atresac wrote:
Wait so now it’s 6 pirates vs. 10 ninja? No. It’s an even fight. And since half of the ninja have been sold off already you’re saying that it started off 20 ninja vs. 6 or 7 pirates? Wrong wrong wrong wrong.
Don’t twist my words. A pirate crew consists of about 10 Pirates, 3 pirates would be killed by the 6 or so ninja that were captured, the other 3 - 4 ninja were already on the pirate ship.
That leaves about 7 pirates to the 10 ninja, 3 of those pirates would probably be sleeping, pirates sleep in shifts. That leaves 4 pirates awake. One of which is bound to be the navigator who probably wouldn’t be capable of using a sword very well because he isn’t used for fighting but for finding the way. That leaves 3 combat ready pirate against 10 ninja.
“They’d be in all areas of the ship, probably two pirates on the deck, 2 pirates sleeping, the captain would be sleeping. 2 or 3 pirates already dead."
7 pirates (or 8) vs. 10 ninja, by your own scenario.
“They’d be in all areas of the ship, probably two pirates on the deck, 2 pirates sleeping, the captain would be sleeping. 2 or 3 pirates already dead."
7 pirates (or 8) vs. 10 ninja, by your own scenario.
No.
Eh, I didn’t count them up right the first time.
10 pirate vs 10 ninja, average size for a pirate crew.
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