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05 Jan 2008 10:17 pm
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Demon Slayer wrote: hmm...i’m hardcroe smiley


Yes everyone of us here are hardcore gamers. Remember thats defined by gaming habits. Question is do you play hardcore games.

I think you do. You play RTS’s, and that’s a huge hardcore gaming genre.

Basically if you don’t play RPG’s, RTS’s, or action adventures, then you pretty much don’t play hardcore games, as those are the heart of the hardcore games and define a hardcore gamer’s gaming habits the strongest.

Many people think multiplayer is something for the hardcore gamer, but really that’s more inept by the casual gamer. It’s jsut with the invention of online gaming, the competitive strive in most hardcore gamers is what attracts them to these mostly casual games.

But, the guy at gamestop said that nintendogs was hardcore! That fucking liar


No no no. Simulations are one of the most casual genres out there. It might be the most casual genre. Why simulation racers are casual titles.

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05 Jan 2008 10:42 pm
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Story line is very importent, but you don’t really need it to create a hard core game as long as you add in great game play. Like most Mario games.

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Mario Galaxy didn’t get best game of the year by being casual and it was called hardcore by people who officially rate game as a living. Anyways its nice that someone found the time to tell ppl that a high graphic shooter with lots of violence is not a hard core game. Thanx.

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05 Jan 2008 10:50 pm
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lightsin- if you weed out my posts, you’ll notice I said Platformers are one of those ones that are really hard to place. Cause they normally have simplistic gameplay control and ideal, but normally a long singler player, which kinda halves it out. So I put it under casual, but really Platformers are an inbetween genre.

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05 Jan 2008 11:09 pm
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Hiroshama Nakasaki Is Back wrote: We all are hardcore gamers or close to it if we are online talking about video gamessmiley

Nice write up Zucas. Basically my outlook is a hardcore gamer is someone who buy’s games and beats games himself steadily or plays online enough to be good at it. Casual gamers usual rent games and never beat the games and this only happens once in a while with them. A hardcore game is any game challenging enough to test hardcore gamers and keep them interested in the replay value. I don’t necessarily think a challenging game is automatically a hardcore game or a game with good graphics is or a game with bad graphics isn’t, it has to have the right mix.

Hardcore games = Half Life, Halo, Zelda, Metal Gear, Oblivion, Metroid, God Of War.

Casual Games = fighting games, sports games, racing games — All games that you’d see rented alot for a quick gaming fix.


In all honesty, Halo (the game) is actually a casual game found popular by hardcore gamers.


When Halo first came out it was not looked at as a casual game and it still isn’y, it’s just a real popular game. I can guarantee you any Casual gamer looking to rent or pickup a quick game will not choose Halo.

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05 Jan 2008 11:13 pm
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This is based on definition not perception. As perception can be manipulated, while an respected definition cannot.

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05 Jan 2008 11:15 pm
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Do you think Halo is a casual game? Or has it just become such a household name it automatically becomes casual?

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05 Jan 2008 11:16 pm
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This is definition, not perception. I really don’t care what yours or my personal opinion of the game is, as that’s not the topic. If you want to post your opinion on it then start another topic. Otherwise this is defining not perceiving.

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Zucas wrote: This is definition, not perception. I really don’t care what yours or my personal opinion of the game is, as that’s not the topic. If you want to post your opinion on it then start another topic. Otherwise this is defining not perceiving.


So your opinions become defining all the sudden? I don’t get it.

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05 Jan 2008 11:23 pm
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In my topic they do haha.

But I gave a definition of a hardcore gamer and a casual gamer, one that I think most would agree to be factual. And I built off a fact, interpreting it the most logical way possible. I’m not trying to make exceptions or loopholes so that certain games cna fit somewhere. I’m simply giving something and going from there.

Halo is a shooter, and by definition that makes it a casual title. Just because a bunch of hardcore gamers play it, doesn’t mean its a hardcore game. Shooters are of the casual game genre, becasue they have short single player experiences, focus on multiplayer which is normally equates to casual gamers, have a simplistic central gameplay idea, easy to pick up and grasp gameplay mechanics and features, and ultimately an easy difficult setting due to the few changes in gameplay styles throughout the game as you or only shooting.

This is why most shooters are casual titles. Only shooters that don’t fit that trend are ones that have other genres inside of them such as Bioshock and Metroid Prime.

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05 Jan 2008 11:32 pm
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Zucas wrote: In my topic they do haha.

But I gave a definition of a hardcore gamer and a casual gamer, one that I think most would agree to be factual. And I built off a fact, interpreting it the most logical way possible. I’m not trying to make exceptions or loopholes so that certain games cna fit somewhere. I’m simply giving something and going from there.

Halo is a shooter, and by definition that makes it a casual title. Just because a bunch of hardcore gamers play it, doesn’t mean its a hardcore game. Shooters are of the casual game genre, becasue they have short single player experiences, focus on multiplayer which is normally equates to casual gamers, have a simplistic central gameplay idea, easy to pick up and grasp gameplay mechanics and features, and ultimately an easy difficult setting due to the few changes in gameplay styles throughout the game as you or only shooting.

This is why most shooters are casual titles. Only shooters that don’t fit that trend are ones that have other genres inside of them such as Bioshock and Metroid Prime.


Ok, as long as you realized you had opinions as well, not facts cause this stuff is impossible to define, it’s all opinion.

I still don’t think shooters as a whole are casual at all cause all are very different. I think they can be played casually in spurts(but so can any game)but not as a casual pick up and play all the time game like a football or car racing game.

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