| 10 Jan 2008 08:55 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 35  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,169 ONLINE | Sean of the Living wrote:
You seem to think man can measure everything and you also claim to be open minded because you aren’t open to the possiblities that there may be a diety, or something else.
Strawman again.. wtf is up with you, I never said everything can be measured, I know we can not measure the sun temperture, but I can think up a way to calculate the temperture. You have nothing but strawmans and lies to base your arugment off.
---
Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | |
 | | 10 Jan 2008 10:19 pm |
out to lunch Rep: 25  Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 15,001 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Gplex wrote:
How do you know? How do you know that god was created by satan and that god try to better us and now god is in hell? How do you know? So you are saying they are all out of context? If they are not then the bible is still very very evil.
And now we present to all the other posters:
THE BIBLE ACCORDING TO GPLEX:
4004BC:
Satan makes God and makes him a threat to his existence and power for no reason.
2500BC:
Satan writes the Bible, where he makes himself look evil and his archenemy, God, look good.
0A 
God sends a prophet to lead us away from Satan. Satan get’s people to write a book glorifying this prophet, who is his nemesis, and makes himself look bad. Then he sends God to hell, which is dumb because he could have just done it in the first place and not have to wait 4004 YEARS to let God mislead his creations away from him.
Any questions?
You left one thing out satan named himslef god and god satan.
what the fuck kind of argument is this?
You’re pretty much trying to say that God still did write the bible, except his name isn’t really God but Satan, and Satan’s real name is God. So you switched the names up? Big deal, that accomplishes nothing.
---
  | | | 11 Jan 2008 01:54 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 35Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,169 ONLINE | Atresac wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Gplex wrote:
How do you know? How do you know that god was created by satan and that god try to better us and now god is in hell? How do you know? So you are saying they are all out of context? If they are not then the bible is still very very evil.
And now we present to all the other posters:
THE BIBLE ACCORDING TO GPLEX:
4004BC:
Satan makes God and makes him a threat to his existence and power for no reason.
2500BC:
Satan writes the Bible, where he makes himself look evil and his archenemy, God, look good.
0A
God sends a prophet to lead us away from Satan. Satan get’s people to write a book glorifying this prophet, who is his nemesis, and makes himself look bad. Then he sends God to hell, which is dumb because he could have just done it in the first place and not have to wait 4004 YEARS to let God mislead his creations away from him.
Any questions?
You left one thing out satan named himslef god and god satan.
what the fuck kind of argument is this?
You’re pretty much trying to say that God still did write the bible, except his name isn’t really God but Satan, and Satan’s real name is God. So you switched the names up? Big deal, that accomplishes nothing.
exactly but mine makes more sense does it not.. with all thekill raping and lieing in the bible...
---
Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | | | 11 Jan 2008 04:22 pm |
out to lunch Rep: 25Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 15,001 OFFLINE | It makes no sense at all. You’re just saying that the names were switched. You can call God “Satan” instead of “God” but he’s still god.
---
| | | 11 Jan 2008 10:30 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 35Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,169 ONLINE | Atresac wrote:
It makes no sense at all. You’re just saying that the names were switched. You can call God “Satan” instead of “God” but he’s still god.
Im asking “Did Satan Write the Bible." so yes I amd switching, because it was supose to be inspired by god, but you read it and it looks more like it was inspired by satan.
---
Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | | | 11 Jan 2008 10:42 pm |
the great aztec grunt Rep: 26 Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 5,739 ONLINE | did your face wright the bible?
---
i am proud to be one of the six hockey fans on this site
 | | | 11 Jan 2008 11:36 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 35Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,169 ONLINE | jomas the grunt wrote:
did your face wright the bible?
my face can not write.
---
Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | | | 12 Jan 2008 02:02 pm |
out to lunch Rep: 25Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 15,001 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
Atresac wrote:
It makes no sense at all. You’re just saying that the names were switched. You can call God “Satan” instead of “God” but he’s still god.
Im asking “Did Satan Write the Bible." so yes I amd switching, because it was supose to be inspired by god, but you read it and it looks more like it was inspired by satan.
No. No it really doesn’t.
And switching the names doesn’t do anything.
We can call you Atresac and me Gplex from now on, but I’m still me and you’re still you. Nothing’s changed other than the names. That’s what you’re saying with the bible.
---
| | | 12 Jan 2008 02:04 pm |
the great aztec grunt Rep: 26Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 5,739 ONLINE | Gplex wrote:
jomas the grunt wrote:
did your face wright the bible?
my face can not write.
exactly
---
i am proud to be one of the six hockey fans on this site
| | | 12 Jan 2008 11:55 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 35Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,169 ONLINE | Atresac wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Atresac wrote:
It makes no sense at all. You’re just saying that the names were switched. You can call God “Satan” instead of “God” but he’s still god.
Im asking “Did Satan Write the Bible." so yes I amd switching, because it was supose to be inspired by god, but you read it and it looks more like it was inspired by satan.
No. No it really doesn’t.
And switching the names doesn’t do anything.
We can call you Atresac and me Gplex from now on, but I’m still me and you’re still you. Nothing’s changed other than the names. That’s what you’re saying with the bible.
No im saying satan was more likly to write bs like this.
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. “This is what you are to do," they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, “How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God’s curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, “Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn’t find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.
Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?
2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.
3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?
4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.
5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NA
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
It is clear that God doesn’t give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans “property”.
6) David’s Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God’s “Forgiveness” (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NA
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: “The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]
This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!
7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NA
“When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive’s garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
8) Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NA
They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera’s spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NA
9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NA
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NA
---
Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | | | 13 Jan 2008 12:46 am |
out to lunch Rep: 25Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 15,001 OFFLINE | That’s bastard not shit what you were prick saying.
You prick were ass saying that honkey the names ass were dildo switched. pussy dick That dildo doesn’t do anything.
---
| | | 13 Jan 2008 01:15 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 35Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,169 ONLINE | Atresac wrote:
That’s bastard not shit what you were prick saying.
You prick were ass saying that honkey the names ass were dildo switched. pussy dick That dildo doesn’t do anything.
I dont understand...
---
Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | | | 14 Jan 2008 05:29 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 11 Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 1,591 OFFLINE | How could Satan write something so beautiful?
— — — — — — — — — — — —
“1 Corinthians 13
Love
1If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
3 If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
5 It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part,
10 but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.
11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.
12 Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love."
— — — — — — — — — — — —
Seems like Gplex is only using the verses that make the Bible look evil, ignoring perfectly reasonable commands like “Thou shalt not kill” or “Love thy neighbour”. Seriously, how SHALLOW can you get? Do you even care about human emotions and opinions, or do you just mind your own and screw with everyone elses? Obviously the latter seems the most reasonable, but what can I expect, you are, after all, an Atheist...
Last edited 14 Jan 2008 05:47 pm by Sean of the Living | | | 14 Jan 2008 09:50 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 35Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,169 ONLINE | Sean of the Living wrote:
How could Satan write something so beautiful?
— — — — — — — — — — — —
“1 Corinthians 13
Love
1If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
3 If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
5 It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part,
10 but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.
11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.
12 Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love."
— — — — — — — — — — — —
Seems like Gplex is only using the verses that make the Bible look evil, ignoring perfectly reasonable commands like “Thou shalt not kill” or “Love thy neighbour”. Seriously, how SHALLOW can you get? Do you even care about human emotions and opinions, or do you just mind your own and screw with everyone elses? Obviously the latter seems the most reasonable, but what can I expect, you are, after all, an Atheist...
Wouldn’t Satan mix it with this stuff plus the stuff I posted, just to mess with us?
---
Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | | | 14 Jan 2008 09:51 pm |
the great aztec grunt Rep: 26Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 5,739 ONLINE | how do we know your not satan
---
i am proud to be one of the six hockey fans on this site
| | | 14 Jan 2008 09:52 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 35Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,169 ONLINE | jomas the grunt wrote:
how do we know your not satan
Who did you know!
---
Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | | | 14 Jan 2008 09:52 pm |
the great aztec grunt Rep: 26Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 5,739 ONLINE | do you mean “how did you know”?
---
i am proud to be one of the six hockey fans on this site
| | | 14 Jan 2008 09:54 pm |
Future PS3 Owner Rep: 39 Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 12,926 OFFLINE | God pwns.
---
Ace of Spades
 | | | 14 Jan 2008 10:14 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 11Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 1,591 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
How could Satan write something so beautiful?
— — — — — — — — — — — —
“1 Corinthians 13
Love
1If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
3 If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
5 It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part,
10 but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.
11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.
12 Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love."
— — — — — — — — — — — —
Seems like Gplex is only using the verses that make the Bible look evil, ignoring perfectly reasonable commands like “Thou shalt not kill” or “Love thy neighbour”. Seriously, how SHALLOW can you get? Do you even care about human emotions and opinions, or do you just mind your own and screw with everyone elses? Obviously the latter seems the most reasonable, but what can I expect, you are, after all, an Atheist...
Wouldn’t Satan mix it with this stuff plus the stuff I posted, just to mess with us?
No, that would only distract us from the evil he wants us to commit. If he contradicted himself, he would make himself look stupid and thus lose trust. He would try to directly mislead us.
Your rhetorical question designed to debunk the Bible doesn’t prove anything really, most of your things are out of context to:
Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Enough of this out of context bullshit:
“More Rape and Baby Killing
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT) "
That’s a PREDICTION of what would happen to Babylon, NOT A COMMANDEMENT TOWARDS GODS FOLLOWERS. That is what the attacking army would do to Babylon.
And you know what, the fall of Babylon DID HAPPEN after the Bible predicted it would. So if The Bible is 100% bullshit, howcome it managed to accurately predict the fall of Babylon in the first place?
So you find one post that out of contex (that I didnt notice) and somehow that makes the rest of it alright? Their are a bunch of predictions that dont come true in the bible, to think that they got one right (espically this one when most huge civilisations fall eventually) Its like saying.. their will be a big flood happen in such a place, 2000 years later the possiblity of at lease one flood is huge.
Sure, chances are Babylon would fall after a while. But how could they predict, hundreds of years before, that A PERSON CALLED CYRUS WOULD DESTROY IT???
The Bible foretold that a foreign King named Cyrus would conquer Babylon and free the Jews to return to their homeland. In fact, Isaiah describes God as “the one saying of Cyrus, ‘He is my shepherd, and all that I delight in he will completely carry out’; even in my saying of Jerusalem, ‘She will be rebuilt,’ and of the temple, ‘You will have your foundation laid.’” (Is 2:8; 24:1; 39:5-7; 43:14; 44:24-28; 45:1)
Last edited 14 Jan 2008 10:23 pm by Sean of the Living | | | 14 Jan 2008 10:16 pm |
the great aztec grunt Rep: 26Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 5,739 ONLINE | Atresac wrote:
It makes no sense at all. You’re just saying that the names were switched. You can call God “Satan” instead of “God” but he’s still god.
lol he’s emo
---
i am proud to be one of the six hockey fans on this site
| |
|
Previous Page - Post Reply - Next Page |
|
»
Religion
» Did Satan Write the Bible.
