I was talking about the OT.
a small snip of www.evilbible.com Ritual Human Sacrifice in the Bible
(Why does God want me to burn animals and humans?)
The Bible, especially the Old Testament, is filled with numerous stories of animal and human sacrifice. God, we are told, likes the pleasing aroma of burning flesh. Animal sacrifice is much more common than human sacrifice, but both occur and are “pleasing to the Lord”.
Genesis, the first book of the Bible, has Abraham preparing to sacrifice his son to God. “Take your son, your only son – yes, Isaac, whom you love so much – and go to the land of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you." (Genesis 22:1-18) Abraham takes his own son up on a mountain and builds an altar upon which to burn him. He even lies to his son and has him help build the altar. Then Abraham ties his son to the altar and puts a knife to his throat. He then hears God tell him this was just a test of his faith. However, God still wanted to smell some burnt flesh so he tells Abraham to burn a ram.
Even though he didn’t kill his son, it is still an incredibly cruel and evil thing to do. If Abraham did that today he would be in jail serving a long sentence as someone’s prison-bitch. It amazes me how Christians see this story as a sign of God’s love. There is no love here, just pure unadulterated evil.
The first seven chapters of Leviticus have extensive rules regarding animal and food sacrifices. These offerings are supposed to be burnt so that God can smell them. If you read through these it seems clear to me that the priests were getting their followers to make a big feast for them every week. The priests were very particular about what kind of food to bring and how to prepare it.
Even more peculiar is God’s obsession with first-born sons. In Exodus 13:2 the Lord said “Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me." Later it says that you can redeem (replace) an ass with a sheep and that you must redeem a child for an unspecified price. It is clear from the context that “consecrate” means a burning sacrifice. These priests are guilty of theft and kidnapping. Since any sins in the Old Testament were punishable by death, these priests used the threat of death to extort food and money from their followers. What do we call a scum-bag that threatens to kill your kids unless you pay a ransom? A kidnapper! If these priests were alive today they would be in prison with Abraham.
However, in Leviticus 27:28-29, the Lord allows for no redemptions. “Note also that any one of his possessions which a man vows as doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death." I must admit that I am a bit confused by this contradiction, but it might only apply to slaves in your possession. Not that it makes any difference. A human sacrifice is a human sacrifice, and it is just sick.
Bible Passages About Ritual Human Sacrifice
Jephthah Burns His Daughter
“At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, “If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering."
“So Jephthah led his army against the Ammonites, and the LORD gave him victory. He thoroughly defeated the Ammonites from Aroer to an area near Minnith – twenty towns – and as far away as Abel-keramim. Thus Israel subdued the Ammonites. When Jephthah returned home to Mizpah, his daughter – his only child – ran out to meet him, playing on a tambourine and dancing for joy. When he saw her, he tore his clothes in anguish. “My daughter!" he cried out. “My heart is breaking! What a tragedy that you came out to greet me. For I have made a vow to the LORD and cannot take it back." And she said, “Father, you have made a promise to the LORD. You must do to me what you have promised, for the LORD has given you a great victory over your enemies, the Ammonites. But first let me go up and roam in the hills and weep with my friends for two months, because I will die a virgin." “You may go," Jephthah said. And he let her go away for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never have children. When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin. So it has become a custom in Israel for young Israelite women to go away for four days each year to lament the fate of Jephthah’s daughter." (Judges 11:29-40 NLT)
God Commands Burning Humans
[The Lord speaking] “The one who has stolen what was set apart for destruction will himself be burned with fire, along with everything he has, for he has broken the covenant of the LORD and has done a horrible thing in Israel." (Joshua 7:15 NLT)
Josiah and Human Sacrifice
At the LORD’s command, a man of God from Judah went to Bethel, and he arrived there just as Jeroboam was approaching the altar to offer a sacrifice. Then at the LORD’s command, he shouted, “O altar, altar! This is what the LORD says: A child named Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David. On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you." (1 Kings 13:1-2 NLT)
He [Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars, and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them. Finally, he returned to Jerusalem. King Josiah then issued this order to all the people: “You must celebrate the Passover to the LORD your God, as it is written in the Book of the Covenant." There had not been a Passover celebration like that since the time when the judges ruled in Israel, throughout all the years of the kings of Israel and Judah. This Passover was celebrated to the LORD in Jerusalem during the eighteenth year of King Josiah’s reign. Josiah also exterminated the mediums and psychics, the household gods, and every other kind of idol worship, both in Jerusalem and throughout the land of Judah. He did this in obedience to all the laws written in the scroll that Hilkiah the priest had found in the LORD’s Temple. Never before had there been a king like Josiah, who turned to the LORD with all his heart and soul and strength, obeying all the laws of Moses. And there has never been a king like him since. (2 Kings 23:20-25 NLT)
Human Sacrifice
Chastised a little, they shall be greatly blessed, because God tried them and found them worthy of himself. As gold in the furnace, he proved them, and as sacrificial offerings he took them to himself. In the time of their visitation they shall shine, and shall dart about as sparks through stubble; (Wisdom 3:5-7 NAB The Book of The Wisdom of Solomon is mostly in Catholic versions of the Bible.)
Child Sacrifice
And this became a hidden trap for mankind, because men, in bondage to misfortune or to royal authority, bestowed on objects of stone or wood the name that ought not to be shared. Afterward it was not enough for them to err about the knowledge of God, but they live in great strife due to ignorance, and they call such great evils peace. For whether they kill children in their initiations, or celebrate secret mysteries, or hold frenzied revels with strange customs… (Wisdom 14:21-23 RSV) The Book of The Wisdom of Solomon is mostly in Catholic versions of the Bible. This passage condemns human sacrifice but acknowledges that it did happen by early God worshipers.
Humans are Fuel for Fire
As for you, son of man, prophesy: Thus says the Lord GOD against the Ammonites and their insults: A sword, a sword is drawn for slaughter, burnished to consume and to flash lightning, because you planned with false visions and lying divinations to lay it on the necks of depraved and wicked men whose day has come when their crimes are at an end. Return it to its sheath! In the place where you were created, in the land of your origin, I will judge you. I will pour out my indignation upon you, breathing my fiery wrath upon you, I will hand you over to ravaging men, artisans of destruction. You shall be fuel for the fire, your blood shall flow throughout the land. You shall not be remembered, for I, the LORD, have spoken. (Ezekiel 21:33-37 NA
Burn Nonbelievers
“Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
So the next time some Christian tells you about the “love of God”, show them this page and ask them “Why does God want me to burn animals and humans?"
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Mostly all of those verses are takin out of context, when related in context the only reason people die for and literally they are killed, by god’s order is that whoever kills should be killed, which is then related to the government that should establish justice, so the only reason some 1 should be killed is if they kill, and the government the one who decides that, when some1 is dommed it means that they are going to hell because they did not accept jesus
satan didn’t wrote the original scripture of bible but there are words of satan there.
and changing the scriptures from original means you have satans side.
It’s hard to understand why the Bible seems to endorse things we might think at first seem wrong, very harsh, etc. I am happy to chat with anyone who has sincere questions on this, and I assure you there is an answer that good, pure, and loving. As a first step, remember that the Bible features stories of men who sin. Think of the Bible as news accounts. The main character is God himself, but the different stories and books show us the individual or nation’s interaction with God. Sometimes those were pleased to God, who is love, and sometimes they were not. Moses, David, and even Paul were some of the “greatest” men we read about in the Bible, and we see how each of them sinned at various times. So if you’re troubled by a verse, remember that you may be looking at an act that God Himself does not approve of. You have to speak with someone who knows and understands the Christian point of view to understand what the Bible is trying to say. Don’t ask a non-Christian what the Bible means. That’s like asking an English teacher how to read your Calculus book. He might have a good idea, but if you’re going to understand the source — understand the source. The second reason we see these more harsh stories, commandments, and real life events in the Bible is due to much more complex reasons that speak to God’s absolute purity and goodness. Once you understand them, though, it’s simple and even joyful. Remember, the God of the Bible is pure, holy, and perfect. He is both merciful and just. Just because He is fair and does not let evil go unanswered and merciful because He literally moved heaven and earth to make it possible for us to be forgiven when we commit evil. The justice of God is fair and absolute when you first understand the crime/evil that was committed to deserve it. Remember, God first created the Garden of Eden. He wanted us to live a life of pure love and free of conflict. We chose to rebel.. Let’s imagine it in today’s standards. What if a serial killer had roamed the streets of my neighborhood and killed women and children on every block? Should he be allowed to continue or should be stopped? Now what if you walked in on the middle of me putting the killer in jail or defending my family from him by fighting him off. If you walked into the conflict and I was beating him away and you didn’t know who either of us were, you might think I was harsh or even violent. But the truth would be that I was standing up for safety and righteousness. The truth would be that I was protecting my neighbors from the evil the killer wanted to commit. When people read the Bible and do not understand why God’s punishments seem so severe, it is because they do not understand the context of the situation. Remember, this is God, not man. He is omniscient. He knows the crimes of the people of who were punished even before they commit them. He knows their hearts. And remember most of all, that the one consistent message of the Bible is love. God disciplines those He loves. But don’t suggest that the Bible is incorrect or not pure because you don’t yet understand one verse. The Bible tells us 'Ask and you will receive.' God will give you wisdom on any verse if you’re truly open to the answer and ask Him in prayer for why something is the way it is. Oh, don’t you see? All of us fall short of His perfect standard and His holiness. The miracle, the absolute miracle, is that He has not just wiped the earth clean of all of us. The miracle is that He has pursued us tirelessly with the offer of salvation in His son Jesus Christ. Bless you, friends, and I encourage you to visit www.gotquestions.org.
SeekAndFind wrote:
It’s hard to understand why the Bible seems to endorse things we might think at first seem wrong, very harsh, etc. I am happy to chat with anyone who has sincere questions on this, and I assure you there is an answer that good, pure, and loving. As a first step, remember that the Bible features stories of men who sin. Think of the Bible as news accounts. The main character is God himself, but the different stories and books show us the individual or nation’s interaction with God. Sometimes those were pleased to God, who is love, and sometimes they were not. Moses, David, and even Paul were some of the “greatest” men we read about in the Bible, and we see how each of them sinned at various times. So if you’re troubled by a verse, remember that you may be looking at an act that God Himself does not approve of. You have to speak with someone who knows and understands the Christian point of view to understand what the Bible is trying to say. Don’t ask a non-Christian what the Bible means. That’s like asking an English teacher how to read your Calculus book. He might have a good idea, but if you’re going to understand the source — understand the source. The second reason we see these more harsh stories, commandments, and real life events in the Bible is due to much more complex reasons that speak to God’s absolute purity and goodness. Once you understand them, though, it’s simple and even joyful. Remember, the God of the Bible is pure, holy, and perfect. He is both merciful and just. Just because He is fair and does not let evil go unanswered and merciful because He literally moved heaven and earth to make it possible for us to be forgiven when we commit evil. The justice of God is fair and absolute when you first understand the crime/evil that was committed to deserve it. Remember, God first created the Garden of Eden. He wanted us to live a life of pure love and free of conflict. We chose to rebel.. Let’s imagine it in today’s standards. What if a serial killer had roamed the streets of my neighborhood and killed women and children on every block? Should he be allowed to continue or should be stopped? Now what if you walked in on the middle of me putting the killer in jail or defending my family from him by fighting him off. If you walked into the conflict and I was beating him away and you didn’t know who either of us were, you might think I was harsh or even violent. But the truth would be that I was standing up for safety and righteousness. The truth would be that I was protecting my neighbors from the evil the killer wanted to commit. When people read the Bible and do not understand why God’s punishments seem so severe, it is because they do not understand the context of the situation. Remember, this is God, not man. He is omniscient. He knows the crimes of the people of who were punished even before they commit them. He knows their hearts. And remember most of all, that the one consistent message of the Bible is love. God disciplines those He loves. But don’t suggest that the Bible is incorrect or not pure because you don’t yet understand one verse. The Bible tells us 'Ask and you will receive.' God will give you wisdom on any verse if you’re truly open to the answer and ask Him in prayer for why something is the way it is. Oh, don’t you see? All of us fall short of His perfect standard and His holiness. The miracle, the absolute miracle, is that He has not just wiped the earth clean of all of us. The miracle is that He has pursued us tirelessly with the offer of salvation in His son Jesus Christ. Bless you, friends, and I encourage you to visit www.gotquestions.org.
PLEASE use paragraphs next time, no way am I reading all of that shit.
But let me ask (with a soft voice, not a smartbutt one), if you don’t have the mental energy to read a long paragraph, how on earth do you expect to understand something as complicated as the Bible?
So if your are acknowledging that Satan wrote the Bible (which he probably didnt) then you are acknowledging he exists? Or are you speaking metaphorically saying that the bible is more evil than good?
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Underlipetx wrote:
Mostly all of those verses are takin out of context, when related in context the only reason people die for and literally they are killed, by god’s order is that whoever kills should be killed, which is then related to the government that should establish justice, so the only reason some 1 should be killed is if they kill, and the government the one who decides that, when some1 is dommed it means that they are going to hell because they did not accept jesus
See!! I told you their are people here who think their god is infinitly worst then hitler!!!
Anyway...
Underlipetx wrote:
whoever kills should be killed
then that person would be killed and that person who killed that person will be killed and a ever lasting bs cycle has started...
You fail, next time think a little, its not that hard... really.
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PS3KICKS360 wrote:
So if your are acknowledging that Satan wrote the Bible (which he probably didnt) then you are acknowledging he exists? Or are you speaking metaphorically saying that the bible is more evil than good?
I am saying isnt it more likly that someone evil (satan) wrote the bible, and not a loving sky daddy...
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SeekAndFind wrote:
It’s hard to understand why the Bible seems to endorse things we might think at first seem wrong, very harsh, etc. I am happy to chat with anyone who has sincere questions on this, and I assure you there is an answer that good, pure, and loving. As a first step, remember that the Bible features stories of men who sin. Think of the Bible as news accounts. The main character is God himself, but the different stories and books show us the individual or nation’s interaction with God. Sometimes those were pleased to God, who is love, and sometimes they were not. Moses, David, and even Paul were some of the “greatest” men we read about in the Bible, and we see how each of them sinned at various times. So if you’re troubled by a verse, remember that you may be looking at an act that God Himself does not approve of. You have to speak with someone who knows and understands the Christian point of view to understand what the Bible is trying to say. Don’t ask a non-Christian what the Bible means. That’s like asking an English teacher how to read your Calculus book. He might have a good idea, but if you’re going to understand the source — understand the source. The second reason we see these more harsh stories, commandments, and real life events in the Bible is due to much more complex reasons that speak to God’s absolute purity and goodness. Once you understand them, though, it’s simple and even joyful. Remember, the God of the Bible is pure, holy, and perfect. He is both merciful and just. Just because He is fair and does not let evil go unanswered and merciful because He literally moved heaven and earth to make it possible for us to be forgiven when we commit evil. The justice of God is fair and absolute when you first understand the crime/evil that was committed to deserve it. Remember, God first created the Garden of Eden. He wanted us to live a life of pure love and free of conflict. We chose to rebel.. Let’s imagine it in today’s standards. What if a serial killer had roamed the streets of my neighborhood and killed women and children on every block? Should he be allowed to continue or should be stopped? Now what if you walked in on the middle of me putting the killer in jail or defending my family from him by fighting him off. If you walked into the conflict and I was beating him away and you didn’t know who either of us were, you might think I was harsh or even violent. But the truth would be that I was standing up for safety and righteousness. The truth would be that I was protecting my neighbors from the evil the killer wanted to commit. When people read the Bible and do not understand why God’s punishments seem so severe, it is because they do not understand the context of the situation. Remember, this is God, not man. He is omniscient. He knows the crimes of the people of who were punished even before they commit them. He knows their hearts. And remember most of all, that the one consistent message of the Bible is love. God disciplines those He loves. But don’t suggest that the Bible is incorrect or not pure because you don’t yet understand one verse. The Bible tells us 'Ask and you will receive.' God will give you wisdom on any verse if you’re truly open to the answer and ask Him in prayer for why something is the way it is. Oh, don’t you see? All of us fall short of His perfect standard and His holiness. The miracle, the absolute miracle, is that He has not just wiped the earth clean of all of us. The miracle is that He has pursued us tirelessly with the offer of salvation in His son Jesus Christ. Bless you, friends, and I encourage you to visit www.gotquestions.org.
you claim that paul and the others where the greatest people in the bible? Paul rewrote the bible! Then you claim that all of the bible is base on people sining... gods in there he must be a person who sins, thanks god... Then you claim that because adam and eve committed a crime, that all of humanity committed it with them.
Last but not surprising, you basicly say be save by jesus (if not saved then Im assumming u mean I will go to hell)
What a pointless bunch of dribble... First
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Gplex, you sound angry. How are you feeling about this exchange?
Let me break apart your questions. Paul and others are examples of men that Bible readers often revere as among the greatest because they did great things or overcome great obstacles. Most of us feel humbled when we read about their lives because we wonder if we could ever follow God similarly. The point of raising them is not to discuss them, per se, but to show that even the most popular Bible figures have sinned. That’s the only point on that front. As for your claim whether Paul rewrote the Bible:
Paul was one of the most religious Jews there was when he met Jesus on the road to Damascus. He did not rewrite the Torah or Old Testament in any way. Paul did write letters to the new churches of The Way (essentially the Christian church). These letters eventually were collected with other letters and became the New Testament. But to imply that he rewrote anything is really just false and even unbelievers would agree with that. History does not support that claim at all.
As for God sinning. He has never sinned, nor will He ever sin. He never sins in the Bible.
The idea that Adam and Eve sinned leading to the fall of humanity is a larger theme. I presumed that you would know what “the fall” is but that was my mistake. Let’s just sum it up by saying that Adam and Eve chose to sin, and through that sin was introduced to all of us and we were born into a sin nature. The bottom line is that all of us have sinned of our own doing. I would suggest looking at issues surrounding the fall once you read the Bible more simply because you need to understand the context of the Bible to understand why it matters to you.
To your last and most important point... If you deny Christ, you cannot be close to and truly enter the “courts” of God. It isn’t Jesus or Christians that keep you out. It’s your own sin. Jesus offers you a way in that is completely merciful and full of love. Our only job is to accept it. Another way to look at it is like this, what can you ever do to make up for all the crap you’ve done? I know I’ve done a lot of crap — from being mean to people to lying, etc. Nothing I can do can make up for it and nothing I can do can keep me from failing again in the future. I know myself well enough to know I am in need of forgiveness.
When we get off our own thrones and really look at our lives and the condition of our hearts, we see that we are not as pure or righteous as we like to think. We’re human. And we need help. All of us. And God is a wonderful God who welcomes us in when we ask.
If there is a God and if He knew your name before He created the universe, would you want to know Him?
The people who say not to this are the people who have experienced so much crap in their lives they can’t imagine that God is really trustworthy or worth their time. The only way you know love is by jumping in.
then that person would be killed and that person who killed that person will be killed and a ever lasting bs cycle has started...
You fail, next time think a little, its not that hard... really.
Yeah, I agree with you there. The death penalty is wrong and killing people to show that killing is wrong is stupid. Even the most pathetic of us have a right to life.
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SeekAndFind wrote:
Gplex, you sound angry. How are you feeling about this exchange?
Exchange is fine, Im angery at you because you expect your responses to be taken seriously.
SeekAndFind wrote:
Let me break apart your questions. Paul and others are examples of men that Bible readers often revere as among the greatest because they did great things or overcome great obstacles. Most of us feel humbled when we read about their lives because we wonder if we could ever follow God similarly. The point of raising them is not to discuss them, per se, but to show that even the most popular Bible figures have sinned. That’s the only point on that front. As for your claim whether Paul rewrote the Bible:
Norman Borlaug did more to help people then either one of those 2. Jesus is the most popular bible figure, after god of course, did he sin?
SeekAndFind wrote:
Paul was one of the most religious Jews there was when he met Jesus on the road to Damascus. He did not rewrite the Torah or Old Testament in any way. Paul did write letters to the new churches of The Way (essentially the Christian church). These letters eventually were collected with other letters and became the New Testament. But to imply that he rewrote anything is really just false and even unbelievers would agree with that. History does not support that claim at all.
New testaments where written by paul, paul rewrote them... its simple!
SeekAndFind wrote:
As for God sinning. He has never sinned, nor will He ever sin. He never sins in the Bible.
Murder, lying, I thought they where sins, wow I must be mistaken.
SeekAndFind wrote:
The idea that Adam and Eve sinned leading to the fall of humanity is a larger theme. I presumed that you would know what “the fall” is but that was my mistake. Let’s just sum it up by saying that Adam and Eve chose to sin, and through that sin was introduced to all of us and we were born into a sin nature. The bottom line is that all of us have sinned of our own doing. I would suggest looking at issues surrounding the fall once you read the Bible more simply because you need to understand the context of the Bible to understand why it matters to you.
No.. No, you dont get away with that, adam and eve sin, so we all have to pay for his sin... bs bs bs, you know it everyone here knows it.
SeekAndFind wrote:
To your last and most important point... If you deny Christ, you cannot be close to and truly enter the “courts” of God. It isn’t Jesus or Christians that keep you out. It’s your own sin. Jesus offers you a way in that is completely merciful and full of love. Our only job is to accept it. Another way to look at it is like this, what can you ever do to make up for all the crap you’ve done? I know I’ve done a lot of crap — from being mean to people to lying, etc. Nothing I can do can make up for it and nothing I can do can keep me from failing again in the future. I know myself well enough to know I am in need of forgiveness.
Again more bs, merciful? Your god is willing to infintly tourcher me all for lying when I was a child? Please, again, if you believe this, then your god is infinitly worst then hitler.
SeekAndFind wrote:
When we get off our own thrones and really look at our lives and the condition of our hearts, we see that we are not as pure or righteous as we like to think. We’re human. And we need help. All of us. And God is a wonderful God who welcomes us in when we ask.
Humans are flaw, and god made us, so god is flaw, not wait god is perfect and never makes mistake. Ohhh you’re making so much sense now.
SeekAndFind wrote:
If there is a God and if He knew your name before He created the universe, would you want to know Him?
I would, and I would want to know why he would create this universe knowing how many mistakes this god was going to make.
SeekAndFind wrote:
The people who say not to this are the people who have experienced so much crap in their lives they can’t imagine that God is really trustworthy or worth their time. The only way you know love is by jumping in.
Not in my life no, I watch other peoples lives fall apart, see children on tv staving, hundreds of thousands dieing in earthquakes and tsunami, disease and war. I really dont think a loving god would permit this.
Lets see if I can sum up why no one should believe your version of your religion.
Your god has not left any evidence for anyone to follow, I read the bible many times, and the leading charactors never had to rely on blind faith, as you are trying to suggest we do. Every single one had a encounter with god, so none of them had blind faith, why does everyone on this planet have to rely on blind faith, when almost everyone in the bible didnt have too? More crap about blind faith that doesnt make sense.
Last off, you claim that people who dont believe, are those who think god is untrustworthy, which just proves that you are one of those crazy religious people.
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