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[Quote] #61
18 Jan 2008 11:25 am
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@ Cid, I’m almost certain it was the other way around lol. And that the creators said they’d keep to the original, I could be wrong but I’m sure of it.

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18 Jan 2008 11:31 am
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Buster Sword wrote: @ Cid, I’m almost certain it was the other way around lol. And that the creators said they’d keep to the original, I could be wrong but I’m sure of it.


Last Order formed the basis to Crisis Core.. But now that I think about it.. They did go back to the original. *shrugs*

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[Quote] #63
18 Jan 2008 11:35 am
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That’s what I was saying, they went back to the original source, I don’t know the full reasons for it, but I do know a lot of people on forums thought the change in LO was stupid and pointless just to make Sephiroth look more badass (or if you want to be picky he ran away LOL).
But I’m defo sure LO isn’t canon. I’ll see if I can find out.

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18 Jan 2008 11:39 am
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It’s probably not, it was written by Kazuhiko Inukai.. I don’t believe he has anything to do with FF7 at all.

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[Quote] #65
18 Jan 2008 11:43 am
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Okies fair enough dude, nice chatting. smiley

Oh and MB this was my post I’d say AC Sephiroth > FFVII Sephiroth >/=AC Cloud > All the others you said.



@ MB I don’t really know much about these characters you’re on about so I cant say much.

But AC Sephiroth needs no materia, is intagible, can fly and other stuff, just thought I’d tell you some of his other abilities.

As widely belived...

But I accidently included it in the quotes LOL.

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18 Jan 2008 11:43 am
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18 Jan 2008 11:47 am
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Buster Sword wrote: Okies fair enough dude, nice chatting. smiley


Yah, it’s always nice chatting about Final Fantasy. Whether I’m wrong or not. XD

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[Quote] #69
18 Jan 2008 11:59 am
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Hey we always learn something new everyday so I guess you’re right xD.

Omfg are you Cid=Cid Highwind, because your username is different now? xD

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18 Jan 2008 12:00 pm
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Buster Sword wrote: Hey we always learn something new everyday so I guess you’re right xD.

Omfg are you Cid=Cid Highwind, because your username is different now? xD


Yah, Cid Highwind is my Moderator account. I use this one when I’m not busy cleaning shit up. o.o

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[Quote] #71
19 Jan 2008 07:37 pm
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Ahhhhhhhh I see, keep up the good work xD

[Quote] #72
10 Mar 2008 07:06 pm
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Alot of people don’t realize the power of AC Sephiroth, in his fight against Cloud in AC he didn’t use ANY of his powers, he TOYED with Cloud and PIS made him lose, it was even stated by the creators that Sephiroth did not exert himself at all, he could’ve killed Cloud at any point in that fight.

AC Sephiroth infected the lifestream, and took over, he had control over it.. lifestream = power source to EVERYTHING on the planet, meaning he can do ANYTHING he wants, EVERYTHING is made up of lifestream, materia, living beings, etc.. Sephiroth CREATED the 3 Silver Haired Men, and used Jenova’s voice to guide them his true speed and power have not yet been scene, but concidering Loz is just a weak remnant of Sephiroth and how fast his speed is, you can guess at how fast Sephiroth truely is, basically AC Sephrioth has the power to do anything he wants, like he said, “He will change the planet into his own vessel and soar the cosmos” meaning he is capable of transforming the entire planet into his own personal ship and raid other planets.

AC Sephiroth is 100% Jenova, he became the new Jenova, he has ALL of her powers, including Super speed, 100% over all J-cells, intageability, super strength, etc

Sephiroth also has extreme willpower/telekinisis, capable of bringing down the to of buildings with a thought, in FFVII he held back Holy with his willpower throughout the game, Holy is so powerful that it is capable of destroying the planet, Sephiroth held that and contained it throughout the FFVII game, imagine what he can do to physical bodies.

Anyway Sephiroths true powers are still to be seen, he has never been shown to exert himself at all, the creators have stated a few times that Sephiroth is the most powerful character in the FFVII world, meaning more powerful then Chaos,Omega Weiss, and even the goddess Minerva herself

[Quote] #73
10 Mar 2008 07:35 pm
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Alot of people don’t realize the power of AC Sephiroth, in his fight against Cloud in AC he didn’t use ANY of his powers, he TOYED with Cloud and PIS made him lose, it was even stated by the creators that Sephiroth did not exert himself at all, he could’ve killed Cloud at any point in that fight.

No, a lot of people do realise Sephiroth’s power, we know what he did and didn’t do in that fight, but a massive misconception is that Sephiroth 'TOYED' with Cloud, that his hyperbole bollocks. And non of this shit about he could have killed Cloud anytime before in that fight, if it was more than a physical battle, then yes, but it wasn’t.

AC Sephiroth infected the lifestream, and took over, he had control over it.. lifestream = power source to EVERYTHING on the planet, meaning he can do ANYTHING he wants, EVERYTHING is made up of lifestream, materia, living beings, etc.. Sephiroth CREATED the 3 Silver Haired Men, and used Jenova’s voice to guide them his true speed and power have not yet been scene, but concidering Loz is just a weak remnant of Sephiroth and how fast his speed is, you can guess at how fast Sephiroth truely is, basically AC Sephrioth has the power to do anything he wants, like he said, “He will change the planet into his own vessel and soar the cosmos” meaning he is capable of transforming the entire planet into his own personal ship and raid other planets.

AC Sephiroth is 100% Jenova, he became the new Jenova, he has ALL of her powers, including Super speed, 100% over all J-cells, intageability, super strength, etc

Sephiroth also has extreme willpower/telekinisis, capable of bringing down the to of buildings with a thought, in FFVII he held back Holy with his willpower throughout the game, Holy is so powerful that it is capable of destroying the planet, Sephiroth held that and contained it throughout the FFVII game, imagine what he can do to physical bodies.

Anyway Sephiroths true powers are still to be seen, he has never been shown to exert himself at all, the creators have stated a few times that Sephiroth is the most powerful character in the FFVII world, meaning more powerful then Chaos,Omega Weiss, and even the goddess Minerva herself

However most of this is pretty true, the never exertion is because he doesn’t run out of energy though, which is nothing to do with his fight with Cloud. And yeah He is the most powerful being in the VII world.

[Quote] #74
12 Mar 2008 04:00 am
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I think the words of the creators > your opinion, Sephiroth DID infact toy with Cloud in that fight.

And yes he could’ve killed Cloud, for somer reason he chose to stab him in the shoulder and keep taunting him when he couldve well stabbed him in the head.

This is a direct quote from the FFVII UOG,

"-It’s said that Cloud was outmatched when it came to the fight with Sephiroth. Sorry everybody who thinks that Cloud was almost on par with him: he wasn’t. Even worse for Cloud, Nomura said that Sephiroth didn’t sweat during the entire fight and never exerted himself. In other words, he wasn’t even trying hard. Cloud on the other hand was clearly giving it his all and was described by the book as exhausted by the time the battle was nearing its conclusion."

[Quote] #75
13 Mar 2008 02:14 pm
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I think the words of the creators > your opinion, Sephiroth DID infact toy with Cloud in that fight.

I think you’ll find my words are based from the creators, SE state that Sephiroth and Cloud were fighting ferociously, it takes two to fight ferociously, Sephiroth wants to kill Cloud, so he isn’t toying with him.

And yes he could’ve killed Cloud, for somer reason he chose to stab him in the shoulder and keep taunting him when he couldve well stabbed him in the head.

He stabs him in the chest in ACC. That is a fatal wound.

This is a direct quote from the FFVII UOG,

"-It’s said that Cloud was outmatched when it came to the fight with Sephiroth. Sorry everybody who thinks that Cloud was almost on par with him: he wasn’t. Even worse for Cloud, Nomura said that Sephiroth didn’t sweat during the entire fight and never exerted himself. In other words, he wasn’t even trying hard. Cloud on the other hand was clearly giving it his all and was described by the book as exhausted by the time the battle was nearing its conclusion."

Notice that’s not a direct quote from the Ultimania Omega itself? It is rather a guide am I right? Trust me I have no reason to lie.

[Quote] #76
13 Mar 2008 03:17 pm
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its a translation, since UOG isn’t in english

Here is the actual “ferocious” quote from the reunion files:
“He (Sephiroth) tells Cloud of his desire to drag the world into darkness, and the battle of the destined rivals begins. The battle is fast and ferocious. Sephiroth eventually takes the upper hand, cornering an exhausted Cloud."

Notice the quote said “The battle is ferocious” not “they were both fighting ferociously” it does not mean that Sephiroth was giving his all, an example i can give you is DBZ,a strong kid gohan can fire his strongest beam, then an even stronger super saiyan goku can retaliate by firing a beam back (not even close to his strongest) and the explosion can be still be “ferocious”.

If it was a fatal wound, then Cloud would have died, because he did not look fatally injured after the fight, unless they redid that in ACC as well. It didn’t look like it was in the chest btw, it looked alot lower.. he still could’ve stabbed him for an instant kill, but he chose not to, so he can keep taunting him. Also in ACC it shows Sephiroth wasn’t even grazed scratched or anything, while Cloud had bruises and cuts. Sephiroth still did not use any of his powers.

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13 Mar 2008 03:38 pm
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Here is the actual “ferocious” quote from the reunion files:
“He (Sephiroth) tells Cloud of his desire to drag the world into darkness, and the battle of the destined rivals begins. The battle is fast and ferocious. Sephiroth eventually takes the upper hand, cornering an exhausted Cloud."

Fair enough.
Then why is Sephiroth using full powered attacks if he’s playing with Cloud? And do you notice the 'eventually' part, it doesnt say anything like Sephiroth easily takes the upper hand.

Notice the quote said “The battle is ferocious” not “they were both fighting ferociously” it does not mean that Sephiroth was giving his all, an example i can give you is DBZ,a strong kid gohan can fire his strongest beam, then an even stronger super saiyan goku can retaliate by firing a beam back (not even close to his strongest) and the explosion can be still be “ferocious”.

In terms of physical prowess it was ferocious, Sephiroth does have other abilities but he wasn’t holding back in physical force, as stated by the sorts of insane attacks he was using.

If it was a fatal wound, then Cloud would have died, because he did not look fatally injured after the fight, unless they redid that in ACC as well. It didn’t look like it was in the chest btw, it looked alot lower.. he still could’ve stabbed him for an instant kill, but he chose not to, so he can keep taunting him. Also in ACC it shows Sephiroth wasn’t even grazed scratched or anything, while Cloud had bruises and cuts. Sephiroth still did not use any of his powers.

Do you know anything about anatomy? A stab to the chest is a fatal wound, never mind lifting them up once exhausted. Well to be honest if Sephiroth stabbed Cloud below the chest it would be very difficult to raise him, as Cloud would just slide. Yeah he could have stabbed himin the face, but that still doesn’t change the fact that Sephiroth had to wear Cloud out in a physical battle. Sephiroth only had one fight, Cloud however was fighting all the way through ACC, plus Sephiroth is more durable, AND Sephiroth got slammed once.

[Quote] #78
13 Mar 2008 03:41 pm
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Sephiroth still did not use any of his powers.

I know, Cloud would be dead. But the fact that using physical force, Sephiroth had to try.

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13 Mar 2008 06:53 pm
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Fair enough.
Then why is Sephiroth using full powered attacks if he’s playing with Cloud? And do you notice the 'eventually' part, it doesnt say anything like Sephiroth easily takes the upper hand.

Sephiroth wasn’t using full powered attacks, those attakcs he could’ve done in his weakest CC form, of course, Sephiroth wanted to torment Cloud, he was taunting him the whole time, basically smirking the entire fight, saying things like “oo you got stronger?" “Let me give you a present”, and “tell me whats important to you? So i can take it all away” he was verbally tormenting him the entire fight.

In terms of physical prowess it was ferocious, Sephiroth does have other abilities but he wasn’t holding back in physical force, as stated by the sorts of insane attacks he was using.

Sure he was, he made no signs of exerting himself throughout the entire fight, and it was even stated in UOG as well, those things he couldve done in his weakest CC form.


Do you know anything about anatomy? A stab to the chest is a fatal wound, never mind lifting them up once exhausted. Well to be honest if Sephiroth stabbed Cloud below the chest it would be very difficult to raise him, as Cloud would just slide. Yeah he could have stabbed himin the face, but that still doesn’t change the fact that Sephiroth had to wear Cloud out in a physical battle. Sephiroth only had one fight, Cloud however was fighting all the way through ACC, plus Sephiroth is more durable, AND Sephiroth got slammed once.

Fatal means resulting in death, Fatal wound is a wound resulting in death, through puncture or injury of a vital organ(s), it is unclear where Cloud got stabbed, if he was able to walk away fine after the fight means his organs are fine, he was even able to take another bullet so unless ACC remade this, Cloud didn’t really get fatally wounded.

Also, that “slam” had basically no effect on Sephiroth.

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