Dante vs. Sephiroth

Manchester Black wrote: Nero was cool but Dante is still the best.Oh Vergil you are missed

Cid wrote: Immortality and intangibility can be a bitch, just saying.

HIGH_man_FOXYboy wrote: DERGE beats all except all the other things that are better

ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
He is immortal to some degree. Demonic forms and powers can be a bigger bitch. Dante destroyed Mundus(Well kinda) who could create life and could manipulate reality.

Cid wrote:

No, the biggest bitch of all here is that Sephiroth, most likely, has all of Jenova’s abilities since he absorbed her. Which includes mind control, immortality, regeneration, super strength, and intangibility. He’s exhibited all but one of those abilities in the games and movie. The only one he hasn’t be shown in intangibility. But you can bet your ass that he probably possesses it.

Sephiroth is a broken character, and if you give him range of every ability he and Jenova have then he’s nearly unstoppable. The people who disagree are the fanboys, people who don’t know his abilities, and people who just don’t like him.

Kyle Knight grew to dislike arguing with me because I knew enough about the FF7 Compilation that I can come up with a theory and throw enough facts behind it to make it not only seem plausible but correct.

For example, we did a Superman V.S Sephiroth thread a while back, and before I got bored of the argument I had basically proven that Sephiroth could defeat Superman.

Like I said, Seph is a broken character if you give him all the abilities he should have. But most people say shit like “if he hasn’t done it he can’t” But it’s just an excuse to keep them from getting their asses kicked in a debate.

ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Sephiroth beat Superman? I don’t know about that one. Sephiroth is strong and he has impressive abilities but, It’s not like he uses those in a fight. I doubt mind control would work on Dante. Super strength and regeneration is something Dante has, and you can bet Sephiroth will be surprised once he finds out impaling Dante won’t do anything. As far as using this 'negitive lifestream' stuff, I just don’t think it will work unless your part of the lifestream of the planet. With that being said Dante would not be affected.

Cid wrote:

Yeah, within about 5 pages I had it proven that you can control Superman’s mind, because some doctor guy did it and turned Supes against the Justice League. So I simply had Sephiroth make Superman kill himself.

And Sephiroth doesn’t use his impressive abilities in a fight because he never really needed to. Every time he’s been defeated was because Cloud lucked up and hit him with an Omnislash. If Seph ever really took his fight seriously, he’d own just about everybody.

The Neg Lifestream would work because of the way the Lifestream causes damage. It pulls your life force out of your body. That’s why it killed everybody it came in contact with during the end of FF7.

And Sephiroth probably wouldn’t be surprised when he impaled Dante, because if you really want to get technical Sephiroth CAN kill Dante by impaling him.

ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
How could he kill Dante by impaling him, Dante has been hit just about every fatal area possible and still stood, wheras when omnislash comes in on Sephiroth and he somehow gets beaten.

But as for the NLS, how do you know it works on those outside the lifestream? Don’t you have to have been part of it to be affected?

Cid wrote:

There is no evidence to support that you have to have been part of the lifestream to be affected by it. And I don’t think it’s ever been implied in anything cannon. Like I said, it hits you and drags your life energy out of your body, or at least that’s how I’m assuming it works. It could be just that the excess of energy in the body caused all the vital organs to shut down.

But seeing how the lifestream is pure life energy, it makes sense that it simply absorbs all other life energy it touches.

And, the reason I say that Seph can kill Dante by stabbing him is because of the number of things that can be done in a single stab thanks to materia in FF7. Everything from poison to paralysis. Practically any negative status effect, including instant death.

ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Well I guess that makes sence. I believe in a novel, they said the lifestream was very deadly. But it seems the way Sephiroth used it was through Geostigma, which may not affect Dante as fast as normal humans.

If your going to give Sephiroth Materia why not give Dante his quicksilver class? He can stop time and such.

Cid wrote:

He kind of used it through Geostigma. The Negative Lifestream was the tainted lifestream that came from the people who died because of Geostigma, Sephiroth controlled the geostigma and thus had control over the infect lifestream. And yeah, you probably read it int he On the Way to a Smile novels. The story of Denzel told about how the lifestream killed a ton of people.

Sephiroth can stop time as well, and he can throw a magic barrier up that would prevent Dante from stopping Seph with his Quicksilver class. Alternately, Sephiroth could simply summon Bahumut Zero and blow up wherever the hell they were fighting at.

ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Yeah it was the “On the way to a smile” novels.
See, the problem with Sephiroth doing that is that Dante doesn’t really give warning when he does it. In DMC3 when the rock comes down he just stops it out of nowhere before it hits him. I doubt Sephiroth could put it up in time.
What magic barrier though? You mean like a protect or barrier spell or something? Because it could probably be argued that Dante’s abilities come from demon energy rather than mp. Though it can also be argued that demon energy is similar to mp enough for barrier and such to work.

Yes he can survive SN, TIFA can, and she is WAY WAY WAY WAY less durable than Dante. All others he could since the less durable party could. Heartless angel doesn’t affect him accept maybe take his hp to 1 for a second Dante uses something other than mp so...Negitive lifestream won’t work either as he isn’t even part of tha planet’s lifestream. Slow, stop are both things he could do anyway, Pandora’s box?

Tifa’s durability>Supernova. How to you figure Mundus’s fire bolts are less than Tifa’s durability because they even hurt Dante at one point so yeah.

SN is an illusion it isn’t a planet busting attack. If he could create those he could just spawn a insta meteor to damage the planet. Plus Dante’s durability>>>>>>>>>> FF7 protagonist durability and they can sruvive supernova

Dante without omnislash is faster than bullets by quite some margin too, Once he uses his quicksilver move Dante is faster than light as he is moving and light isn’t. He freezes time.

Okay Dante is seriously underestimated here on this site.I’m starting to wonder if a DMC respect thread should be made.