Maggot Face wrote: It’s not unconstitutional for there to be religion in school.

Right now, my school has a policy that I find unconstitutional.

Students at my school have the option of taking a religion based class. But there’s one problem. The teachers aren’t allowed to talk about the classes. The students can’t be told about the class. The only way we can find out about said classes is when the teachers are willing to tell us. The classes are held off campus by individuals that are not employed by the county. The classes can’t take place during the school day. They’ve done everything possible to make it almost impossible to even know this class exists, much less take it.

Now tell me how it is constitutional to ban the mere mention of a religious class. The United States constitution is supposed to protect freedom of religion.

Maggot Face wrote: It’s not unconstitutional for there to be religion in school.

Right now, my school has a policy that I find unconstitutional.

Students at my school have the option of taking a religion based class. But there’s one problem. The teachers aren’t allowed to talk about the classes. The students can’t be told about the class. The only way we can find out about said classes is when the teachers are willing to tell us. The classes are held off campus by individuals that are not employed by the county. The classes can’t take place during the school day. They’ve done everything possible to make it almost impossible to even know this class exists, much less take it.

Now tell me how it is constitutional to ban the mere mention of a religious class. The United States constitution is supposed to protect freedom of religion.

Red_Calibur9 wrote: Matt, um... you’re mad at Christians, but is throwing out all these stereotypes making you look better? And may I introduce Gplex... yes, he’s an athiest, no he’s not nice about it.

Red_Calibur9 wrote: Matt, um... you’re mad at Christians, but is throwing out all these stereotypes making you look better? And may I introduce Gplex... yes, he’s an athiest, no he’s not nice about it.

ramunematt wrote: There people go again assuming I’m talking about EVERY Christian. I hold nothing personal against you unless you’ve tried to force-feed your beliefs on me or our country.

Cid Highwind wrote:

If there a definition of a “Religion must die” Atheist, Gplex fits the build pretty well.

Cid Highwind wrote: It’s a student’s right to be able to pray in school if he wishes and it’s a judge’s right to have the 10 commandments on his courtroom walls if he wishes. Restricting those two things, is not only taking away our freedom which is guaranteed freedom, but it’s also immoral.

Cid Highwind wrote: I’ve lost all faith in my religion, but I still don’t like to see people blaming world problems on it.

The final draw is this..

Religion doesn’t cause war and it doesn’t cause evil.

People cause war and evil and fly the religious flag to justify it.

Maggot Face wrote: It’s not unconstitutional for there to be religion in school.

Right now, my school has a policy that I find unconstitutional.

Students at my school have the option of taking a religion based class. But there’s one problem. The teachers aren’t allowed to talk about the classes. The students can’t be told about the class. The only way we can find out about said classes is when the teachers are willing to tell us. The classes are held off campus by individuals that are not employed by the county. The classes can’t take place during the school day. They’ve done everything possible to make it almost impossible to even know this class exists, much less take it.

Now tell me how it is constitutional to ban the mere mention of a religious class. The United States constitution is supposed to protect freedom of religion.

Gplex wrote:
I think someone needs to learn the meaning or read his own constitution.

Maggot Face wrote:

You know what? I’m not even going to waste my time explaining why you’re an idiot. Anyone with a brain can see it for themselves.

Gplex wrote:
.... http://atheism.about.com/od/godlessliberals/p/Constitution.htm

To have relevance, it must mean that the government can’t favor, endorse, promote, or support any religions just as it can’t hinder any.

Gplex wrote:
If you told me the colour blue was red and just expected me to believe it, without evidence, I wouldnt be nice, why would I be nice about religions since it does the same things.


Stating facts and telling you when you make a bs argument.. how can I be nice about that?


Thats where I stand. But I see people trying to make strawman arguments, trying to add things on what I have said, or take me out of contexts.


No I said religion is stupid, stop making strawman arguments, its getting annoying.


No its not the right of the judge, it is a goverment building, as for pray.. just dont force anyone, and it can not be run by any goverment employee while they are being payed


I blame religion for spreading mis information, forcing beliefs on other people, and bascily trying to destroy science.


I think someone needs to learn the meaning or read his own constitution.

Maggot Face wrote:

You just helped prove me right.

This is from the article YOU posted.


Even atheist.about fucking agrees with me! Do you see now why I say you’re an idiot?

Maggot Face wrote: Students at my school have the option of taking a religion based class. But there’s one problem. The teachers aren’t allowed to talk about the classes. The students can’t be told about the class. The only way we can find out about said classes is when the teachers are willing to tell us. The classes are held off campus by individuals that are not employed by the county. The classes can’t take place during the school day.

jomas the grunt wrote: people could have named red blue and blue red
there just words
so what your wearing could be a pink frilly bikini/thong

its pretty stupid to not think about it

Gplex wrote:
Ah here we go again, make a strawman and then call me a name... typical.
Where did I calm the goverment should hinder religion?!?!!? This is what it says “government can’t favor, endorse, promote, or support any religions” so to have goverment workers doing any of these - favor, endorse, promote, or support then they are breaking the constitution.


So you see they are doing what the constitution says.

This is the typical bs I get from theist. First they say something stupid, I respond, they call me a moron or idiot, I give them a link or information, the point out the part I wanted them to, and destroy their own argument, even then I will not get a apology, just more stramans, more lies, and more name calling.
Then I have people wondering why I’m sick of being nice to thiest...

Maggot Face wrote: You’re one to talk about strawman statements, you dumb shit. I am, by definition, Deist. Certain blanket statements about deists don’t apply to me, but I’m not a theist. Just because someone disagrees with what you say, they’re an ignorant theist? Get the fuck over yourself dude.

Maggot Face wrote: And you know what? If you can selectively supplement your evidence, so can I.

The fact is, the government can’t hinder any religion. Another fact is, they are hindering it. They DO NOT inform us of this class. They DO NOT allow it on campus. They DO NOT allow us to SIGN UP FOR IT. Any student that wants to take it has to make an appeal to the curriculum director, and a LOT of the time that doesn’t work.

So tell me how that’s not hindering.

Gplex wrote:
Ah here we go again, make a strawman and then call me a name... typical.
Where did I calm the goverment should hinder religion?!?!!? This is what it says “government can’t favor, endorse, promote, or support any religions” so to have goverment workers doing any of these - favor, endorse, promote, or support then they are breaking the constitution.


So you see they are doing what the constitution says.

This is the typical bs I get from theist. First they say something stupid, I respond, they call me a moron or idiot, I give them a link or information, the point out the part I wanted them to, and destroy their own argument, even then I will not get a apology, just more stramans, more lies, and more name calling.
Then I have people wondering why I’m sick of being nice to thiest...

Gplex wrote:
Lol see told you would go straight down this path, anyway at lease your not trying to create a strawman. Oh and calling you something that you are not is no a strawman. I dont see much diffrence between theist and deist, but it might be my lack of understanding of both words, I’ll look it up later.


Schools can not pay for religious classes with government money. Having any religion on government property and having government money paying for it is against the law. Any religion not just yours (if you got one) Why can you not understand this. It is in no way in a effort to hinder any religion, the only they they could do this is to out law a religion. But they can not support any religion in any way. Read and learn the constitution! “government can’t favor, endorse, promote, or support any religions”

Atresac wrote: it’s a religion based class. That is not favoring anything. It is simply a religious-based class. You however like to take that to mean that it must be teaching Christianity or anything else.

Atresac wrote: I take a religious class in my school. Guess what? We cover everything. Ancient religions and mythology to modern-day Christianity. It doesn’t hinder anything nor does it favor anything. It just teaches.

Atresac wrote: If you want to say simply teaching religion shouldn’t be allowed in schools you’re fucking stupid. All that does is breed ignorance, because no one really knows what a religion is about and only learn anything about it from the streets and media. And anyone who only learns about Islam from there thinks that the only thing about it is blowing yourself and hijacking planes. Instead of actually learning the basis of the religion and what it really means.

Atresac wrote: So if you want that religious class banned, have fun in your sheltered world where information is censored because of fear that someone, like you, will get offended because someone says “God Bless You” when you sneeze.

Atresac wrote:

A religious class isn’t endorsing a religion knucklehead.