| 18 Jan 2008 11:32 pm |
26 days left. Rep: 72  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 26,785 OFFLINE | where did you say that you wouldn’t that?
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why so grunty? Rep: 34  Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 6,343 OFFLINE | peace will never happen...
but it would be nice
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NO EXCEPTIONS Rep: 56  Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 15,171 ONLINE | Gplex, you don’t belong in this topic as you are clearly not making peace.
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 48  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,773 OFFLINE | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
where did you say that you wouldn’t that?
You know I get this alot, and then Im the one called stupid....
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | | | 18 Jan 2008 11:35 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 48  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,773 OFFLINE | Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Gplex, you don’t belong in this topic as you are clearly not making peace.
Where did I say I was trying to make war? If people would stop preaching books that tell them to kill me then I might relax a little more.
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | | | 18 Jan 2008 11:36 pm |
NO EXCEPTIONS Rep: 56  Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 15,171 ONLINE | Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Gplex, you don’t belong in this topic as you are clearly not making peace.
Where did I say I was trying to make war? If people would stop preaching books that tell them to kill me then I might relax a little more.
Stop hating. Who says we’re supposed to kill you? HM?
--- You’re My Best Friend
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Reanimated Rep: 37  Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 7,998 | It’d certainly be nice for a little forum like this to be more peaceful than it seems to be.
Then again, arguments happen...>.>
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Agent of Chaos Rep: 46  Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,440 OFFLINE | I’ll settle for peaceful debate, but not a non debate peace. That never solves anything. People need to talk things out, otherwise it’ll only build up and explode erractically. People just need to learn that you can debate without disregarding others opinions. You know how you do it. Well first you respect their opinions. Then you allow for your opinions to not be a steady fact but debateable within yourself. It’s called open mindedness. If people can be open minded and respectful to and of others then there will be peace.
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It’s not about money. It’s about sending a message. Everything burns. | | | 18 Jan 2008 11:46 pm |
26 days left. Rep: 72  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 26,785 OFFLINE | pretty much like is has now...
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 48  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,773 OFFLINE | Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Gplex, you don’t belong in this topic as you are clearly not making peace.
Where did I say I was trying to make war? If people would stop preaching books that tell them to kill me then I might relax a little more.
Stop hating. Who says we’re supposed to kill you? HM?
If you look at verses from the Quran, you will find..
“2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them
47:4, Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.
2:216, Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you
3:28, Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah”
If you look at the bible.
“And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God..." (Deuteronomy 13: 5)
“If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;" (Deuteronomy 13: 6)
“Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people." (Deuteronomy 13:8-9)
“Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword." (Deuteronomy 13:15)
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | | | 18 Jan 2008 11:53 pm |
26 days left. Rep: 72  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 26,785 OFFLINE | — -
jules Winnfield wrote:
Ezekiel 25:17: The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the Valley of Darkness; for he is truly his brother’s keeper, and the finder of lost children. And, I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And, you will know my name is The Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!
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atresacnli Guest | Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Gplex, you don’t belong in this topic as you are clearly not making peace.
Where did I say I was trying to make war? If people would stop preaching books that tell them to kill me then I might relax a little more.
no one’s trying to kill you you ninny.
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 48  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,773 OFFLINE | atresacnli wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Gplex, you don’t belong in this topic as you are clearly not making peace.
Where did I say I was trying to make war? If people would stop preaching books that tell them to kill me then I might relax a little more.
no one’s trying to kill you you ninny.
I never said they where, I just said they where preaching/promoting a book that does tell people too.
Edit - here come the insults and the strawman arguments....
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena.Last edited 18 Jan 2008 11:57 pm by Gplex | | | 18 Jan 2008 11:58 pm |
atresacnli Guest | Gplex wrote:
atresacnli wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Gplex, you don’t belong in this topic as you are clearly not making peace.
Where did I say I was trying to make war? If people would stop preaching books that tell them to kill me then I might relax a little more.
no one’s trying to kill you you ninny.
I never said they where, I just said they where preaching/promoting a book that does tell people too.
The Bible says a lot of things. Sure, a lot of it is unclear and when taken out of context can sound bad. But if you want to ignore the rest of it and all the good its done for the world go ahead.
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26 days left. Rep: 72  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 26,785 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Gplex, you don’t belong in this topic as you are clearly not making peace.
Where did I say I was trying to make war? If people would stop preaching books that tell them to kill me then I might relax a little more.
Stop hating. Who says we’re supposed to kill you? HM?
If you look at verses from the Quran, you will find..
“2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them
47:4, Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.
2:216, Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you
3:28, Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah”
If you look at the bible.
“And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God..." (Deuteronomy 13: 5)
“If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;" (Deuteronomy 13: 6)
“Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people." (Deuteronomy 13:8-9)
“Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword." (Deuteronomy 13:15)
you are doing the same thing.
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Regular Rep: 0 Joined: 19 Aug 2007 Posts: 194 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
I’ll settle for peaceful debate, but not a non debate peace. That never solves anything. People need to talk things out, otherwise it’ll only build up and explode erractically. People just need to learn that you can debate without disregarding others opinions. You know how you do it. Well first you respect their opinions. Then you allow for your opinions to not be a steady fact but debateable within yourself. It’s called open mindedness. If people can be open minded and respectful to and of others then there will be peace.
you can’t debate beliefs, all it comes down to is what you believe. its impossible to debate beliefs. if your arguing over what you believe then it is not a debate and is an argument.
| | | 20 Jan 2008 11:12 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 48  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,773 OFFLINE | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Gplex, you don’t belong in this topic as you are clearly not making peace.
Where did I say I was trying to make war? If people would stop preaching books that tell them to kill me then I might relax a little more.
Stop hating. Who says we’re supposed to kill you? HM?
If you look at verses from the Quran, you will find..
“2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them
47:4, Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.
2:216, Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you
3:28, Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah”
If you look at the bible.
“And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God..." (Deuteronomy 13: 5)
“If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;" (Deuteronomy 13: 6)
“Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people." (Deuteronomy 13:8-9)
“Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword." (Deuteronomy 13:15)
you are doing the same thing.
I am, I dont have a book that tells me to kill you.... wtf.
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | | | 20 Jan 2008 11:18 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 48  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,773 OFFLINE | atresacnli wrote:
Gplex wrote:
atresacnli wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Gplex, you don’t belong in this topic as you are clearly not making peace.
Where did I say I was trying to make war? If people would stop preaching books that tell them to kill me then I might relax a little more.
no one’s trying to kill you you ninny.
I never said they where, I just said they where preaching/promoting a book that does tell people too.
The Bible says a lot of things. Sure, a lot of it is unclear and when taken out of context can sound bad. But if you want to ignore the rest of it and all the good its done for the world go ahead.
Really how can you put something like this out of context, god kills normal children?!?!
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. “Go up baldhead," they shouted, “go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NA
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena.Last edited 21 Jan 2008 12:49 am by Gplex | | | 21 Jan 2008 11:57 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6  Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | I picked yes, even though I hate both sides.
--- Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | | | 21 Jan 2008 07:04 pm |
Dr. Matt Rep: 46  Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,433 OFFLINE | Angelina_Jolie wrote:
Zucas wrote:
I’ll settle for peaceful debate, but not a non debate peace. That never solves anything. People need to talk things out, otherwise it’ll only build up and explode erractically. People just need to learn that you can debate without disregarding others opinions. You know how you do it. Well first you respect their opinions. Then you allow for your opinions to not be a steady fact but debateable within yourself. It’s called open mindedness. If people can be open minded and respectful to and of others then there will be peace.
you can’t debate beliefs, all it comes down to is what you believe. its impossible to debate beliefs. if your arguing over what you believe then it is not a debate and is an argument.
People debate beliefs all the time on all different levels. Get used to it.
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the21gamer wrote:
fuck that load of bullshit. i dont care if the enemy dies. not fighting back is stupid
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