remember, akuma used the dark hadou to punch a battle ship in half.
and, the fighting style of ryu is an assassination fighting style.
liu kang on the other hand, well, he can turn into a dragon. and summon an arcade machine to crush his opponent. so, thats the only chance liu kang has.
i stand by my statement. ryu will win. worst case scenario, ryu would have just to use dark hadou to completely vaporize liu. or, maybe ryu could just use a super hadouken.
psycho_jr wrote:
ryu wins if he will use the dark hadou.
remember, akuma used the dark hadou to punch a battle ship in half.
and, the fighting style of ryu is an assassination fighting style.
liu kang on the other hand, well, he can turn into a dragon. and summon an arcade machine to crush his opponent. so, thats the only chance liu kang has.
i stand by my statement. ryu will win. worst case scenario, ryu would have just to use dark hadou to completely vaporize liu. or, maybe ryu could just use a super hadouken.
Actually Ryu used a toned down version of the Ansatsuken that wasn’t meant to kill, unlike Akuma.
Also, yeah, I agree that Liu Kang MIGHT have his hands full with the Dark Hadou if Ryu’s willing to use it. And the Shinku Hadouken won’t really be a problem for Liu Kang as he can easily dodge it or stop it with his own Super Fireball attack (from MK:SM).
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psycho_jr wrote:
ryu wins if he will use the dark hadou.
remember, akuma used the dark hadou to punch a battle ship in half.
and, the fighting style of ryu is an assassination fighting style.
liu kang on the other hand, well, he can turn into a dragon. and summon an arcade machine to crush his opponent. so, thats the only chance liu kang has.
i stand by my statement. ryu will win. worst case scenario, ryu would have just to use dark hadou to completely vaporize liu. or, maybe ryu could just use a super hadouken.
Actually Ryu used a toned down version of the Ansatsuken that wasn’t meant to kill, unlike Akuma.
Also, yeah, I agree that Liu Kang MIGHT have his hands full with the Dark Hadou if Ryu’s willing to use it. And the Shinku Hadouken won’t really be a problem for Liu Kang as he can easily dodge it or stop it with his own Super Fireball attack (from MK:SM).
ive played mk:sm both on the ps2 and xbox and i have to admit lius fire balls are stylish but weak. unless of course were using the multality. then ryu would just have to tap and give in to the dark hadou. he used it before he can certainly use it again.
and ryus fighting style is not a gentler Ansatsuken. ryu just doesnt use it to kill. out of respect for his late master gouken.
psycho_jr wrote:
ive played mk:sm both on the ps2 and xbox and i have to admit lius fire balls are stylish but weak. unless of course were using the multality. then ryu would just have to tap and give in to the dark hadou. he used it before he can certainly use it again.
Of course he can do it again, he just vowed NOT to do it again.
You think Liu Kang’s fireball is weak? Well that’s just your opinion. I think it’s strong enough.
psycho_jr wrote:
and ryus fighting style is not a gentler Ansatsuken. ryu just doesnt use it to kill. out of respect for his late master gouken.
Yes, it is. Some of the techniques of the Ansatsuken were forbidden. Gouken didn’t teach Ryu and Ken those techniques.
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psycho_jr wrote:
ive played mk:sm both on the ps2 and xbox and i have to admit lius fire balls are stylish but weak. unless of course were using the multality. then ryu would just have to tap and give in to the dark hadou. he used it before he can certainly use it again.
Of course he can do it again, he just vowed NOT to do it again.
psycho_jr wrote:
and ryus fighting style is not a gentler Ansatsuken. ryu just doesnt use it to kill. out of respect for his late master gouken.
Yes, it is. Some of the techniques of the Ansatsuken were forbidden. Gouken didn’t teach Ryu and Ken those techniques.
but we still see ryu using the dark hadou in many incarnations. he doesnt want to, but he will if he has to.
yep my fault, its a gentler style but ryu has techniques that can kill. i think that was the shin shoruuken.
its like this normal ryu can control his attacks so he wont kill anyone. but once he use dark hadou, all hell breaks loose. and if evrything else fails, ryu can just “complete change” marvel vs capcom. he can use all the techniques of ken and akuma.
psycho_jr wrote:
but we still see ryu using the dark hadou in many incarnations. he doesnt want to, but he will if he has to.
Yeah, but in the storyline, he only used it once and it was only for a split second.
psycho jr. wrote:
yep my fault, its a gentler style but ryu has techniques that can kill. i think that was the shin shoruuken.
Not sure if that’s a killing move but yeah it is powerful.
psycho jr. wrote:
its like this normal ryu can control his attacks so he wont kill anyone. but once he use dark hadou, all hell breaks loose. and if evrything else fails, ryu can just “complete change” marvel vs capcom. he can use all the techniques of ken and akuma.
That was just so Ryu, Ken, and Akuma could all be in the game. He was never stated to have these in the actual SF series. Capcom came up with some crazy ideas in that series.
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psycho_jr wrote:
but we still see ryu using the dark hadou in many incarnations. he doesnt want to, but he will if he has to.
Yeah, but in the storyline, he only used it once and it was only for a split second.
psycho jr. wrote:
yep my fault, its a gentler style but ryu has techniques that can kill. i think that was the shin shoruuken.
Not sure if that’s a killing move but yeah it is powerful.
psycho jr. wrote:
its like this normal ryu can control his attacks so he wont kill anyone. but once he use dark hadou, all hell breaks loose. and if evrything else fails, ryu can just “complete change” marvel vs capcom. he can use all the techniques of ken and akuma.
That was just so Ryu, Ken, and Akuma could all be in the game. He was never stated to have these in the actual SF series. Capcom came up with some crazy ideas in that series.
uhh no, ryu tapped in his dark hadou powers to first off, shoot a hadouken at zangief and to win against a scientists fighter that can take the full force of kens shoryuuken(and the opponents was smiling)
and, were talking about ryu vs liu here so, we can use any feat they have. canon or non canon. you just mention a while ago the MK:SM game and that game is non canon so.
psycho_jr wrote:
uhh no, ryu tapped in his dark hadou powers to first off, shoot a hadouken at zangief and to win against a scientists fighter that can take the full force of kens shoryuuken(and the opponents was smiling)
I was talking about the game storyline, not the anime.
psycho jr. wrote:
and, were talking about ryu vs liu here so, we can use any feat they have. canon or non canon. you just mention a while ago the MK:SM game and that game is non canon so.
They never said exactly which version either. Plus, Liu Kang’s abilities in SM isn’t really much of a problem compared to Ryu’s abilities in the MvC series. Also, using the MvC version of Ryu is kind of unfair, since they had to supe him up just so he can compete with the Marvel characters. He would beat Liu Kang then but since he doesn’t actually have those abilities, I really don’t wanna bring him up.
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psycho_jr wrote:
uhh no, ryu tapped in his dark hadou powers to first off, shoot a hadouken at zangief and to win against a scientists fighter that can take the full force of kens shoryuuken(and the opponents was smiling)
I was talking about the game storyline, not the anime.
psycho jr. wrote:
and, were talking about ryu vs liu here so, we can use any feat they have. canon or non canon. you just mention a while ago the MK:SM game and that game is non canon so.
They never said exactly which version either. Plus, Liu Kang’s abilities in SM isn’t really much of a problem compared to Ryu’s abilities in the MvC series. Also, using the MvC version of Ryu is kind of unfair, since they had to supe him up just so he can compete with the Marvel characters. He would beat Liu Kang then but since he doesn’t actually have those abilities, I really don’t wanna bring him up.
oh the game incarnation of ryu? well, we have a lot of games that features evil ryu.
you said it yourself, they never said which version we could use so, i can bring any incarnation of ryu i want.
psycho_jr wrote:
oh the game incarnation of ryu? well, we have a lot of games that features evil ryu.
you said it yourself, they never said which version we could use so, i can bring any incarnation of ryu i want.
But it’s only gonna make it a messy discussion.
nope, it will make ryu win. make him win easily.
see, now were done. ryu wins because of his abilities through out the years. no messy discussion, no cursing, we can end this fight now. we know who the winner is
psycho_jr wrote:
nope, it will make ryu win. make him win easily.
see, now were done. ryu wins because of his abilities through out the years. no messy discussion, no cursing, we can end this fight now. we know who the winner is
Nope it will make a messy discussion. Ryu doesn’t really have those abilities. Basically, you’re using the MvC version against Liu Kang. That’s a totally unfair fight, seeing that Ryu doesn’t really have those abilities so no, it wouldn’t make sense to use him.
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Ryu could kill Lui Kang quight easily he has the element of thunder on his side remember how badly Raiden would pwn Lui Kang well then the same apply’s here.
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Element of thunder? That looked like a typical Shinku Hadouken in that trailer. Oh and Ryu’s no Raiden. Raiden is the god of thunder. Not good of a comparison if you ask me.
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Ryu charges thunder into his attack’s who are you to decide who’s is stronger God is a title Raiden hardly deseerv’s Thor laugh’s at him as douse Storm, as for Ryu his attack’s are almost on par with DBZ attack’s so he pwn’s the Kang and the false God.
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Kyle Knight wrote:
Ryu charges thunder into his attack’s who are you to decide who’s is stronger God is a title Raiden hardly deseerv’s Thor laugh’s at him as douse Storm, as for Ryu his attack’s are almost on par with DBZ attack’s so he pwn’s the Kang and the false God.
What? Ryu’s attacks are nowhere near the level DBZ’s. And to think Ryu could beat Raiden is crazy. As if the Hadouken could make a huge explosion or cause a storm.
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psycho_jr wrote:
nope, it will make ryu win. make him win easily.
see, now were done. ryu wins because of his abilities through out the years. no messy discussion, no cursing, we can end this fight now. we know who the winner is
Nope it will make a messy discussion. Ryu doesn’t really have those abilities. Basically, you’re using the MvC version against Liu Kang. That’s a totally unfair fight, seeing that Ryu doesn’t really have those abilities so no, it wouldn’t make sense to use him.
oh so, just because it will make liu kang look like nothing, i cant use complete change ryu? now youre making up the rules? wow. just wow.
the fact that theres an incarnation of ryu that can use all the techniques of akuma and ken exist, and the fact that theres no rules on which version we could use, its only common sense that we can use any version we want.
it doesnt make a messy discussion. youre the only one thats mmaking it all messy. just because you dont want me to use complete change ryu when theres no rule implying which version we could use.
just accept the fact that were given all the freedom to use any version to determine who will win