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25 Jan 2008 09:03 pm
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It seems to me that you don’t care about the debate at all. You care about trying make Ryu win and that’s it. This has nothing to do with making rules. It’s about making a much better and more fair discussion.


look whos talking. youre the one whos preventing me from using the ryu version i want, restricting the versions i can use and youre not even the creator, and youre talking about fair? wow!

it has nothing to do with making rule eh? then STOP WHINING AND GET DOWN TO BUSINESS. prove liu can win. STOP WHINING LIKE A GIRL ABOUT THE VERSION OF RYU I CAN USE!
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25 Jan 2008 09:26 pm
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psycho_jr wrote:
are you sure about that? MvsC version of ryu is all i use? i can prove you wrong you know.and yes, the dark hadou is canon, but the evil ryu version is not. but youre letting me use it. so... bias!


Evil Ryu IS canon and rather it is or not is not the point. The thing is, he’s from the series.

psycho jr. wrote: when did i say that street fighter is not made by the company? maybe liu kang is his fave, doesnt mean his right. thats why were in a debate! wow, thats a very hard proof huh?


I didn’t say anything about him being right. MvC Ryu is a mismatch and everybody knows that so obviously, he wasn’t talking that version.

psycho jr. wrote: its common sense? or is that what you want to believe? because i dont see any rules implying i cant use the MvsC version ryu.


I’ve been through this already.

psycho jr. wrote: and i dont agree with youre rules. besides, youre using every version of liu kang, even non canon version(MK:SM) why cant i? liu in that game can shatter multiple enemies in one second with the multality. but we all know he doesnt have that ability. but you dont see me preventing you from using that power. another feat of liu that ryu cant do is to fight with a sword stuck in his chest. and another feat of liu will be, liu killed raiden and became the new erathrealm protector.


Non canon or canon has nothing to do with it. I’m talking about from their SERIES, that’s it. Also, he’s never got stabbed in the chest nor did he beat Raiden.

psycho jr. wrote: you can use all those feats. and i dont have any problem with that. but here you are whining about a ryu version that can transform his power.


Except I’m not even using these feats. I’m not using fatalities, mutalities, brutalities, animalities...

psycho jr. wrote: another thing if its not written in the constitution/rule/guide book, then its all LEGAL.


That doesn’t mean it can get messy.
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Last edited 28 Jan 2008 03:03 pm by Go2movies
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25 Jan 2008 09:34 pm
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psycho_jr wrote:
look whos talking. youre the one whos preventing me from using the ryu version i want, restricting the versions i can use and youre not even the creator, and youre talking about fair? wow!


You’re using an overpowered version from another series just to make Ryu win, yes that’s unfair.

psycho_jr. wrote: it has nothing to do with making rule eh? then STOP WHINING AND GET DOWN TO BUSINESS. prove liu can win. STOP WHINING LIKE A GIRL ABOUT THE VERSION OF RYU I CAN USE!


Nobody’s whining but you. Instead of trying to use the character everybody obviously means, you’re using an overpowered version just to MAKE him win and when someone tells you about this, you go crazy.
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25 Jan 2008 10:54 pm
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Go2movies wrote:
psycho_jr wrote:
are you sure about that? MvsC version of ryu is all i use? i can prove you wrong you know.and yes, the dark hadou is canon, but the evil ryu version is not. but youre letting me use it. so... bias!


Evil Ryu IS canon and rather it is or not is not the point. The thing is, he’s NOT from the series.

psycho jr. wrote: when did i say that street fighter is not made by the company? maybe liu kang is his fave, doesnt mean his right. thats why were in a debate! wow, thats a very hard proof huh?


I didn’t say anything about him being right. MvC Ryu is a mismatch and everybody knows that so obviously, he wasn’t talking that version.

psycho jr. wrote: its common sense? or is that what you want to believe? because i dont see any rules implying i cant use the MvsC version ryu.


I’ve been through this already.

psycho jr. wrote: and i dont agree with youre rules. besides, youre using every version of liu kang, even non canon version(MK:SM) why cant i? liu in that game can shatter multiple enemies in one second with the multality. but we all know he doesnt have that ability. but you dont see me preventing you from using that power. another feat of liu that ryu cant do is to fight with a sword stuck in his chest. and another feat of liu will be, liu killed raiden and became the new erathrealm protector.


Non canon or canon has nothing to do with it. I’m talking about from their SERIES, that’s it. Also, he’s never got stabbed in the chest nor did he beat Raiden.

psycho jr. wrote: you can use all those feats. and i dont have any problem with that. but here you are whining about a ryu version that can transform his power.


Except I’m not even using these feats. I’m not using fatalities, mutalities, brutalities, animalities...

psycho jr. wrote: another thing if its not written in the constitution/rule/guide book, then its all LEGAL.


That doesn’t mean it can get messy.

Since then, Evil Ryu has occasionally appeared in various Capcom games featuring Ryu. Nevertheless, Evil Ryu does not exist as a separate character and is only an alternate, “what if” version of Ryu. so yeah. evil ryu is not canon. and is it my fault if ryu has a lot of appearances in games that his company actually made?

yeah its a mismatch. thats why ryu will kill liu

and youre reasons regarding it is not acceptable. because youre preventing me from using a version i want to use

In Mortal Kombat: Armageddon, he accomplishes his first task by saving his friends but was unable to reunite his body and soul. However, in his ending, players learn that upon defeating Blaze, Liu Kang’s body and soul reunite, and he gains the power of a god. Liu Kang then confronted the corrupted Raiden, and reluctantly defeated him in an epic clash. With the consent of the Elder Gods, he replaced Raiden as Protector of Earthrealm.

and its obvious you never really played a lot of MK. since a lot of MK games features a weapon. and that weapon can be thrust in your opponent.

my point being i dont act like i created this thread and preventing other debaters to use any versions they want. unlike you who keeps on making rules.
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25 Jan 2008 11:01 pm
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Go2movies wrote:
psycho_jr wrote:
look whos talking. youre the one whos preventing me from using the ryu version i want, restricting the versions i can use and youre not even the creator, and youre talking about fair? wow!


You’re using an overpowered version from another series just to make Ryu win, yes that’s unfair.

psycho_jr. wrote: it has nothing to do with making rule eh? then STOP WHINING AND GET DOWN TO BUSINESS. prove liu can win. STOP WHINING LIKE A GIRL ABOUT THE VERSION OF RYU I CAN USE!


Nobody’s whining but you. Instead of trying to use the character everybody obviously means, you’re using an overpowered version just to MAKE him win and when someone tells you about this, you go crazy.

uhmmm the series is made by the same company that created ryu. so, i can use it. but i cant use the crappy american version of street fighter tv series. because im not sure if its made by capcom, or the american company capcom at least. and no, thats not unfair. whats unfair is restricting other debaters to use a chracter they want as if you made the thread

im whining? tell me whos the one that keeps saying i cant use the version i want because its too powerful? and its obvious? so let me ask you again, can you read the creators mind? you know whats the version of ryu he wants to be use here?

and youre preventing me to use him just to make liu win. man, what they say in the goku vs superman thread is true. you are a stubborn fanboy
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25 Jan 2008 11:23 pm
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psycho_jr wrote:
Since then, Evil Ryu has occasionally appeared in various Capcom games featuring Ryu. Nevertheless, Evil Ryu does not exist as a separate character and is only an alternate, “what if” version of Ryu. so yeah. evil ryu is not canon. and is it my fault if ryu has a lot of appearances in games that his company actually made?


Evil Ryu actually appeared in the actual storyline (although briefly) so he IS canon. And the thing is you’re using an appearance where he had to be overpowered just to compete with a certain group of characters.

psycho jr. wrote: yeah its a mismatch. thats why ryu will kill liu


And you call ME a stubborn fanboy? Pathetic.

psycho jr. wrote: and youre reasons regarding it is not acceptable. because youre preventing me from using a version i want to use


The only reason you wanna use this version is just so he can win and that’s unfair.

psycho jr. wrote: In Mortal Kombat: Armageddon, he accomplishes his first task by saving his friends but was unable to reunite his body and soul. However, in his ending, players learn that upon defeating Blaze, Liu Kang’s body and soul reunite, and he gains the power of a god. Liu Kang then confronted the corrupted Raiden, and reluctantly defeated him in an epic clash. With the consent of the Elder Gods, he replaced Raiden as Protector of Earthrealm.


That was only in the ending. We still don’t know if that was canon or not.

psycho jr. wrote: and its obvious you never really played a lot of MK. since a lot of MK games features a weapon. and that weapon can be thrust in your opponent.


And it’s obvious you never pay attention to what actually happened in the storyline. In MK4 characters can get their neck broken during the fight. But in the actual storyline, Liu Kang died when got his broken.

psycho jr. wrote: my point being i dont act like i created this thread and preventing other debaters to use any versions they want. unlike you who keeps on making rules.


That’s because you have an overpowered version of the character you’re supporting so you’re just gonna use that just to make him win. That’s the problem. And once again, that’s not making rules.
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Last edited 26 Jan 2008 12:37 am by Go2movies
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25 Jan 2008 11:29 pm
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psycho_jr wrote:
uhmmm the series is made by the same company that created ryu. so, i can use it. but i cant use the crappy american version of street fighter tv series. because im not sure if its made by capcom, or the american company capcom at least. and no, thats not unfair. whats unfair is restricting other debaters to use a chracter they want as if you made the thread


So what if it’s made by the same company that made Ryu? That doesn’t mean everything is the same. And yes, it is unfair. You’re using an overpowered version of Ryu just to make sure he wins, even though it’s obvious the original poster wasn’t using that.

psycho jr. wrote: im whining? tell me whos the one that keeps saying i cant use the version i want because its too powerful? and its obvious? so let me ask you again, can you read the creators mind? you know whats the version of ryu he wants to be use here?


It’s not about reading peoples mind. It’s using common sense. You don’t see people talk about the MvsC version of Ryu in a versus debate and the fact that you’re using that just to make Ryu win is unfair.

psycho jr. wrote: and youre preventing me to use him just to make liu win. man, what they say in the goku vs superman thread is true. you are a stubborn fanboy


Okay, tough guy. Tell me where did I use an overpowered version of Liu Kang just so he can win? Tell me where did I use a version of Ryu that’s obviously MUCH weaker than Liu Kang?

Maybe next time you’d learn to think before spouting nonsense like that.
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Last edited 26 Jan 2008 12:14 am by Go2movies
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26 Jan 2008 12:31 am
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Supposedly Ryu became Evil Ryu for a split second when he defeated Sagat in the first Street Fighter tournament. So Evil Ryu is part of the canon storyline.
Last edited 26 Jan 2008 12:32 am by EB V3
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