Science vs Religion

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Thanks crimson, Is really annoying how the lie through their teeth...

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You are lost Mortis, Opinions dont matter when it comes to facts.

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Then why did you say it then? But it does matter what people think, because it matters to them. Weren’t you the one who labled me as “what are you people talking about” like some religious nut? I didn’t miss out your point at all, people can believe in God or not, there is no fact to prove God exists, but people still believe it, to you it doesn’t matter. Yeah sure use your starwman defence if you wish

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Actually people can still chose to disbelieve that through ignorance, but it’s still their belief and no matter what you say, it matters to that individual.


Are you passing this off as fact now? Last time I checked it’s only a possibilty. Talk about double standard.

Lie? Hahahaha sure we can think at lightspeed. Didn’t you say that once?

Last edited 17 Jul 2008 05:51 pm by Buster Sword

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It wont change the fact, so the fact matters more then the opinion, why? Because its a fact.
If you are in front of a lion and it was about to attack, you can close your eyes and convence yourself its not there, but it doesnt change the fact.




Is their any evidence to sugest that the big bang is not the most possible cause? And no its not a double standard because these evidence to support it.
Electrons can move close to light speed, so technicly we can, but not quite. Im sure I use that as a example on how energy can increase speed did I not?

Last edited 18 Jul 2008 07:14 pm by Gplex

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What? Again with the strawman, I never claim that what you think doesnt matter to the person who thought it, but when it comes to facts, it doesnt matter, cos they wont change facts. Stop focusing on 2 or 3 words in my sentences and read the who dam thing.

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Lets all play shut the fuck up and eat your besketti

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Lets not..

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Honestly, who argues about religon in their spare time..

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I never said it did change the fact, I said if people still chose to believe it, then that is their decision and it’s important to them. And I wasn’t talking about the validity of fact against opinion, I was talking about you saying ti doesn’t matter.
And your lion thing, but it still doesn’t change the opinion that maybe if they close their eyes it might go away, and you can’t say it doesn’t matter just because the person is gonna get eaten.

And I wasn’t actually saying you were wrong for saying that though was I? I’m saying it’s a double standard because you are passing it off as fact when it isn’t, yes there is support, but supporting evidence is not fact, it shows correlation maybe, but not absolute fact which you made it clear it was fact in your post. It’s your opinion and matters to you, or else you wouldn’t be saying that.

Electrons only near lightspeed because C is way slower than it is in a vaccum. When we talk lightspeed, we talk about the 186000 miles per second, not how fast it is in mediums.
And in particle acceleration electrons only move fractions of C. And nah actually you didn’t say anything about energy, but it doesn’t matter because I already know that.

“What I think doesn’t matter”

Good day to you sir.

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Ok this is my last post about Gplex, because I have nothing to say after this post to him unless we get into another debate.

Says who, you? Condescended.
Contradiction much?
And also about this statement, it was a fact that black people were made slaves, but it doesn’t matter if you think what happened to them is wrong? You cannot change what happened, but that does not mean you cannot disagree with it for fear of it not “mattering."



If you don’t care then you shouldn’t be saying it’s stupid, I guess opinions don’t really matter do they huh? I find it rather condescending that you’d ridicule people just because they do not or chose not to believe in what you think should/n’t be respected, who are you to say what and what not should be respected? And then who are you to ridicule afterwards.

You do know you are saying that you are never wrong with this post? It’s funny how The Big Bang which you believe in is past off as fact, even though it’s just a plausable theory.
That’s not a fact, but you still passed it off as fact and still wouldn’t admit it is not fact.
I thought you only stated facts and proved people wrong? You are saying it as if you are immune to mistakes, when we all damn well aren’t.

Knowing you, you probably
will reply to this, which you are entitled to, but I do not believe you are past the point for accepting someones opinion even if you disagree with it. I can accept you do not believe in God and you think it’s all bs which you have stated numerous times, but that does not make me believe you to be stupid, just open minded, but when you say what others believe in e.g. Santa is stupid, it can show how wrong I am about you.

My two cents.

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stop pulling those words out of my sentence, I bet I could make you look like a racist bigot who loves to fuck little boys by pulling words out of all your sentences. so piss off. “What I think doesnt matter because it wont change the facts” Opinion doesnt matter when it comes to facts get over it.

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Really so any belief should be respect, have fun respecting scientology.


Questioning something and claiming its wrong is 2 different things. Questioning if the earth is spherical is good, claiming that its flat, square, hollow, or expanding is not good.


Wow... just wow.. how do you come up with these things...? the fact that some black people where made slaves in america is a fact, and doesnt matter what I think, its a fact. Now asking if it wrong has nothing to do with that fact that it happened.. - I gota save this one to all the stupid things itachi has been saying...

Last edited 24 Jul 2008 08:32 am by Gplex

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Don’t tell me what I can and cannot do to your posts, it’s ok for you to call someone an idiot, but he when someone is screwing with you, you don’t like it. Go on, show that I am racist and I fuck children, seriously grow up. And the bolded part makes me lol, grow up.
It’s funny how that thread you posted in was about Creation V Abiogenesis, the thread creator asked what you thought, then you said it doesn’t matter what is thought, then someone else said that’s why the TC asked what do you 'think' and there is no fact to disprove either of them, so it does matter what is thought. Oh and nice reply to the lightspeed thing hahahaha.

Does it give you the right to ridicule it/someone else?

I thought you said it doesn’t matter what people think as it doesn’t change facts, so why question it?

Er contradiction much? It doesn’t matter what you think, but you can say whether you think it’s right or wrong?

Oh I’m sorry Gplex, you never talk bs, jesus talk about condescended.
You don’t like it? Then don’t fucking say it then, don’t say you only present facts and correct people when they are wrong, when not everything you say is factual.
Just because your idea of a God is different from other peoples that gives you no right to ridicule them, you know if you actually showed respect to other peoples posts maybe you wouldn’t have such a hard time with some posters on here, I can debate with you and not get pissed off, but you can’t even do that because you’re just condescended.
Hey it doesn’t matter what you think right? Hahaha.

I never said there was no evidence for it, did I, I said it’s not fact. And it isn’t, and you know that. There is eivdence for lack or seretonin causing specific mental disorders, but it is not fact.

Yeah of course, that’s why I was arguing about particle accelerators, hahahahahha, you say I make up shit about your post? Well look at what you are assuming, maybe if I actually said something of the sort you would have a point, but you don’t, I pointed out a flaw in your post and you don’t like it, so rather than just say so you’d argue and bitch.

There is not much I actually claim.

Again grow up, hahahaha you are just proving even moreso you throw a fit when having a challenging debate. It’s a shame I don’t think the way about you that you think about me, and I’m glad I don’t to be honest.

Good luck in future debates.

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Man you fell for it so easily...


Why you say it blah blah blah blah....

Now I stated what was true, and already have stated many times what I thought of abiogenesis.



to learn why its a fact, sigh.. and you call me childish, you playing these little word games...


want me to requote you.. ok I will..


no still cant see it? Ill split it up for ya.

Yes it is a fact...

What.. what happen to the fact?!?!? where it go... it when from being slaves to is it wrong...


Why shouldnt I be with all the bs arguments you have been making latly.


sigh...


You don\'t like it? Then don\'t fucking say it then. Stupid out of context bs...


Correction gods...
If you are going to assume what I said by taking me out of context then I will too....

Hey it doesn\'t matter what you thing right?


You pulled me out of context from my post and yes I dont like it.
Do you?


At lease you admit it...


Besides saying that everything I know is true could not be.. thats a pretty big one.


This is not a debate, this is me trying to correct you over and over, and you completely ignoring me, running with these words you have taken out of context.
You fail..

Last edited 25 Jul 2008 02:30 am by Gplex

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Science Vs Religion Becoming Shout N Yell out loud to Gplex Thread...!!

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And it bothers me not because it shows how immature you can be, thanks for proving my point.

Not in that thread you didn’t. The thread CLEARLY asks what you think, but you said it doesn’t matter, remember? Because of a something of it not chagning the facts, and what facts are these? The truth is we don’t fucking know, and neither do you, so stop acting like you know it’s facts vice versa.

That is not what you said, hahha liar. You said we should question facts to make sure they are, not to learn why it’s a fact. But it’s still a double standard, because it would be an opinion to question a stated fact in the first place.

Sure.

Oh it still doesn’t matter what you think? I think you should read this Hahaha a mistype? That’s the second time you’ve said it, are you going to pull coincedence on it?

Just proving even more how condescended you are.

It’s so funny when you can’t counter things, you call it bs, you insult and show how mature you are.

Actually I was talking about you saying you ONLY present facts, I didn’t pick anything from your post, so read what I said please.

Oh so we are talking about assmuptions now? “I want to debate with theist with their bs arguments” learn the definition of condscended. You need to be more clear too.
Atheism: Absence of belief in the existence of God or gods
Oh and I love the “you did it to me, so I’m doing it to you back” hahahahhaha it would be more entertaining in a more lax debate. And weren’t we talking about the ridiculing of others which you said you can do? Disagreeing and ridiculing are two separate things.

According to you, yup.

Out of context? Is that your excuse for a condescended post? again you are just showing how condescended you are by not being 'wrong.'
Do I like it? You can say as you please, I don’t care enough to start calling people idiots about it, you thought it would bother me as much as it bothers you, well thanks for proving yourself wrong.

Sure whatever floats your boat.

Oh and the condescended speaks once more.“I’m always correcting people” is what you are basically saying, pretty funny how the parts about thinking lightspeed, you completely miss out, I thought you did physics? (And that’s a question btw).

The words you have taken out of context doesn’t bother me because it shows how immature you can be.

Oh and if this is not a debate, then you wouldn’t mind stop posting then, but could you really ignore the urge to argue?

Last edited 25 Jul 2008 06:33 am by Buster Sword

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Ive relise that I have been letting you drag me around from 1 direction to another, you claim you dont take me out of context.. lets see what the orginal post say...





Straight off the bat, takes me out of context... I never claim that it doesnt matter what I think only what I think about what sex the rabbit is....