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#721
27 Jun 2008 12:57 pm
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Buster Sword wrote:
the whole point. it doesnt matter if its stated by the creator. if its not done by the character then its not true. a very good example is the power levels. and the omnislash.

Then why do creators make statements then?
Are you saying you know better than the creator of a fiction? Because if that is so, then there is no point in debating with you. Nobody is actually denying powerlevels, if you actually read peoples post, nobody denies it at all, you just said that to help your argument, which it didnt.
then its not proven that the planets are destroyed huh? then that feat is invalid because it cant be proven right?


Does it look like I’m making a thread and complaining about it?
yeah, show me that bahamuts mega flare is almost as big as the city.

Lol, you do have eyes you know.

did i said you guys are denying pls? i said you guys think pls are wrong. and you are right. they are wrong eventhough they are created by akira himself. now are you saying you know more about dbz than akira?

im not complaining about it. im just straightening seph overestimation a bit. but at least now you yourself can say that its not a valid feat.

yes, and thats the reason i dont beleive its almost as big as a city. when cloud was 'flying' towards it, you can actually see cloud. yu can use cloud as a scale. and by that estimation, you can say the mega flare was just as big as a building not a city.
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When did we say pls are wrong?
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27 Jun 2008 01:02 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: When did we say pls are wrong?

buster said it in the prevoius page. he thinks pls are wrong because they are inconsistent.
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27 Jun 2008 01:04 pm
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I think he meant the whole PLs don’t scale lineraly. Check out my “Clearing up the DBZ BS for future debate” thread to see more on that.
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27 Jun 2008 01:05 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: I think he meant the whole PLs don’t scale lineraly. Check out my “Clearing up the DBZ BS for future debate” thread to see more on that.

that means he think its wrong. so... if he thinks pls are right then he wouldnt have bothered saying they are inconsistent.
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27 Jun 2008 01:06 pm
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did i said you guys are denying pls? i said you guys think pls are wrong. and you are right. they are wrong eventhough they are created by akira himself. now are you saying you know more about dbz than akira?

We don’t think they are wrong either, you passively ASSUMED THAT, because that’s what you are doing. When did Akira say the power levels are wrong? You are the one who is denying official statements, do you know more about DBZ than Akira? That is such a stupid question to ask though, you should be aasking yourself that question.

im not complaining about it. im just straightening seph overestimation a bit. but at least now you yourself can say that its not a valid feat.

Oh yeah you are, you even made a thread about it, nobody gives a shit, Goku is WAY more over-rated than Sephiroth, but nobody gives a shit, they just shoot it down in the debate, instead of making thread about it. I can’t say whehter it’s valid or invalid, and that has been my point ALL along, you wanted to prove it wrong, I said we cant prove either.


yes, and thats the reason i dont beleive its almost as big as a city. when cloud was 'flying' towards it, you can actually see cloud. yu can use cloud as a scale. and by that estimation, you can say the mega flare was just as big as a building not a city.

I said that blast was enough to take out Edge, the mega flare itself isn’t as big as the city, but that doesnt mean the damaage will be the same size as the blast, and it’s more than one building in size. Maybe a few put together, there is proof that the size of the blast does more damaage than it’s size.
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27 Jun 2008 01:07 pm
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IMANOOB wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: I think he meant the whole PLs don’t scale lineraly. Check out my “Clearing up the DBZ BS for future debate” thread to see more on that.

that means he think its wrong. so... if he thinks pls are right then he wouldnt have bothered saying they are inconsistent.

Not at all. He means they are inconsistant with power output.
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27 Jun 2008 01:12 pm
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Buster Sword wrote:
did i said you guys are denying pls? i said you guys think pls are wrong. and you are right. they are wrong eventhough they are created by akira himself. now are you saying you know more about dbz than akira?

We don’t think they are wrong either, you passively ASSUMED THAT, because that’s what you are doing. When did Akira say the power levels are wrong? You are the one who is denying official statements, do you know more about DBZ than Akira? That is such a stupid question to ask though, you should be aasking yourself that question.

im not complaining about it. im just straightening seph overestimation a bit. but at least now you yourself can say that its not a valid feat.

Oh yeah you are, you even made a thread about it, nobody gives a shit, Goku is WAY more over-rated than Sephiroth, but nobody gives a shit, they just shoot it down in the debate, instead of making thread about it. I can’t say whehter it’s valid or invalid, and that has been my point ALL along, you wanted to prove it wrong, I said we cant prove either.


yes, and thats the reason i dont beleive its almost as big as a city. when cloud was 'flying' towards it, you can actually see cloud. yu can use cloud as a scale. and by that estimation, you can say the mega flare was just as big as a building not a city.

I said that blast was enough to take out Edge, the mega flare itself isn’t as big as the city, but that doesnt mean the damaage will be the same size as the blast, and it’s more than one building in size. Maybe a few put together, there is proof that the size of the blast does more damaage than it’s size.

wow! did i say akira think pls are wrong? i said you think thay are wrong because they are inconsistent. WOW!LOL

tell that to chibi. i just copied his idea.and because we cant prove either, its not valid.

actually you said its 3/4 the size of edge. now if you think a few buildings put together is as big as a mega falre then its not a very big city now is it? and like i said you can use cloud as scale to estimate the size of the mega flare.
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27 Jun 2008 01:19 pm
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buster said it in the prevoius page. he thinks pls are wrong because they are inconsistent.
I never said they were wrong, dude stop lying, I said they don’t scale linearly.

wow! did i say akira think pls are wrong? i said you think thay are wrong because they are inconsistent. WOW!LOL

No I didn’t say they were wrong, I said they don’t scale linearly, wow adding lies to the argument, nice one.

tell that to chibi. i just copied his idea.and because we cant prove either, its not valid.

Then you can’t say ANYTHING about it. Because I would just say you can’t prove he can’t.
actually you said its 3/4 the size of edge. now if you think a few buildings put together is as big as a mega falre then its not a very big city now is it? and like i said you can use cloud as scale to estimate the size of the mega flare

I know, I said that, Edge is very small in comparison to Midgar. But comparing it to Midgar is different as Midgar is more of a massive city. Doesn’t matter if the city is big or not. People have no problem saying Saiyans can bust planets without taking the size of the planet into account.
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27 Jun 2008 01:25 pm
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Buster Sword wrote:
buster said it in the prevoius page. he thinks pls are wrong because they are inconsistent.
I never said they were wrong, dude stop lying, I said they don’t scale linearly.

wow! did i say akira think pls are wrong? i said you think thay are wrong because they are inconsistent. WOW!LOL

No I didn’t say they were wrong, I said they don’t scale linearly, wow adding lies to the argument, nice one.

tell that to chibi. i just copied his idea.and because we cant prove either, its not valid.

Then you can’t say ANYTHING about it. Because I would just say you can’t prove he can’t.
actually you said its 3/4 the size of edge. now if you think a few buildings put together is as big as a mega falre then its not a very big city now is it? and like i said you can use cloud as scale to estimate the size of the mega flare

I know, I said that, Edge is very small in comparison to Midgar. But comparing it to Midgar is different as Midgar is more of a massive city. Doesn’t matter if the city is big or not. People have no problem saying Saiyans can bust planets without taking the size of the planet into account.

then why would you say some flaws about pls if they are not wrong?

if we cant prove either then its not valid right.? thats all i want to hear.

well, those people who think saiyans can bust planets without thinking about the planets size must be the same people who think that broly can destroy the universe. but as you know im not one of them. then mega flares can just bust a few buildings or slightly more according to your logic.
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27 Jun 2008 01:29 pm
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There has been no statement by Akira to say they scale a certian way so...
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27 Jun 2008 01:30 pm
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then why would you say some flaws about pls if they are not wrong?

I said they don’t scale linearly, I never said they were wrong.

if we cant prove either then its not valid right.? thats all i want to hear.

The point can be valid or invalid, depending on what point of the argument you are using, it has some validity even though we can’t prove either because it’s still Supa Nova.
well, those people who think saiyans can bust planets without thinking about the planets size must be the same people who think that broly can destroy the universe. but as you know im not one of them. then mega flares can just bust a few buildings or slightly more according to your logic.

Not really, people just call them planet busters, nobody takes size of the planet into consideration, because nobody cares to get that technical, basically a planet is a planet, end of story.

Actually according to my logic the size of the flare does more damage than it’s size.
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27 Jun 2008 01:33 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: There has been no statement by Akira to say they scale a certian way so...

well, they are numbers. if goku has a pl of 100 and vegeta 200. then vegeta is twice as powerful right? akira doesnt have to state something like that does he? math that easy is thought in pre school.
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27 Jun 2008 01:34 pm
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IMANOOB wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: There has been no statement by Akira to say they scale a certian way so...

well, they are numbers. if goku has a pl of 100 and vegeta 200. then vegeta is twice as powerful right? akira doesnt have to state something like that does he? math that easy is thought in pre school.

I was talking about energy output. I should have made that clearer.
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#735
27 Jun 2008 01:36 pm
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Buster Sword wrote:
then why would you say some flaws about pls if they are not wrong?

I said they don’t scale linearly, I never said they were wrong.

if we cant prove either then its not valid right.? thats all i want to hear.

The point can be valid or invalid, depending on what point of the argument you are using, it has some validity even though we can’t prove either because it’s still Supa Nova.
well, those people who think saiyans can bust planets without thinking about the planets size must be the same people who think that broly can destroy the universe. but as you know im not one of them. then mega flares can just bust a few buildings or slightly more according to your logic.

Not really, people just call them planet busters, nobody takes size of the planet into consideration, because nobody cares to get that technical, basically a planet is a planet, end of story.

Actually according to my logic the size of the flare does more damage than it’s size.

if they are not wrong then why have you stated its flaw?

so? it doesnt matter what its called. say big bang attack?

and a city is a city even though its just a few buildings big huh? if thats a city to you, then how small is a village?
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Not scaling lineraly =/= Akira is wrong.
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27 Jun 2008 01:39 pm
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Buster Sword wrote: Not scaling lineraly =/= Akira is wrong.

wow. if you question pls. then you are saying akira is wrong.

could you show me an example why you think pls dont scale linearly?
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wow. if you question pls. then you are saying akira is wrong.

Why are you assuing this for?WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT’S WRONG? I question what people say about the power levels, not the power levels themselves.
could you show me an example why you think pls dont scale linearly?

If you got to Chibi’s thread about Powerlevel BS. You’ll see they don’t scale lineraly, this is the thing, it’s people who assume that going from 2 to 4 makes you twice as powerful, and that is why the power levels are not wrong. Akira never said that 2 to 4 means x2 increase exponetially.
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#739
27 Jun 2008 01:48 pm
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Buster Sword wrote:
wow. if you question pls. then you are saying akira is wrong.

Why are you assuing this for?WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT’S WRONG? I question what people say about the power levels, not the power levels themselves.
could you show me an example why you think pls dont scale linearly?

If you got to Chibi’s thread about Powerlevel BS. You’ll see they don’t scale lineraly, this is the thing, it’s people who assume that going from 2 to 4 makes you twice as powerful, and that is why the power levels are not wrong. Akira never said that 2 to 4 means x2 increase exponetially.

you did say they are inconsistent. you dont have to say the word wrong. but the point is, you dont believe akiras pls. does akira really have to say that? no! are you relying on akira to tell you 10 is twice more than 5?
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Just go to my thread and you will see exactly what he means.
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