Forsaken Corpse wrote:
im atheist. i respect other people’s religions, but how good is your god if he sends all nonbelievers to a place of endless torture? sounds like a discriminating tyrant to me.
yah i was questioning some parts of the bible
i think god should let you go to heaven if you lived a good life
i mean if he wanted us to worship him he could have made a big room and forced us to worship
he wants us to never get selfish either
like if you dont suffer you dont learn and cant apreaciate whats infront of you
SevenTimesSeven wrote:
Better Safe Than Sorry i Always Say. Lol
Really.. so what god are you going to pray to and force yourself to believe without evidence..
The Abrahamic God. Allah, Yahweh, Jehova...
those are His names, but he had many more.
And we have tons of fucking evidence. Have you even read the Quran? I explained to you all the scientific details in it but you just clap your hands over your head and say “La la la I’m not listening." Like the little child you are...
lol jehova’s name first existed 1400 ad that means man created this unlike the rest.
jomas the grunt wrote:
lol if the buhddist religeon is right theres no need to worry for hell
its just reancarnation
Actually Buddhists believe in Hell. It’s called Naraka. It’s not eternal, but it usually lasts a very long time.
where there really fat with a mouth the size of a pinhole and there always hungery and theres a huge feast infront of them but they cant eat it cuss of there mouth being so small?
my friend told me something like that
Yeah, they’re called Hungry Ghosts.
But there’s other Hells. I think there’s 8 hot and 8 cold ones. Each successive Hell is 20 times longer than the one before it. Tortures vary widely from being frozen so hard you crack open to being pounded into bloody jelly by flying rocks. After you spend up all your karma in hell you get reincarnated.
seed wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Gplex wrote:
SevenTimesSeven wrote:
Better Safe Than Sorry i Always Say. Lol
Really.. so what god are you going to pray to and force yourself to believe without evidence..
The Abrahamic God. Allah, Yahweh, Jehova...
those are His names, but he had many more.
And we have tons of fucking evidence. Have you even read the Quran? I explained to you all the scientific details in it but you just clap your hands over your head and say “La la la I’m not listening." Like the little child you are...
lol jehova’s name first existed 1400 ad that means man created this unlike the rest.
It’s just a name.
Being a Muslim, I call him Allah of course. Yahweh and Jehova are just a few other names you might know him by.
THE_PAIN wrote:
Forsaken Corpse wrote:
im atheist. i respect other people’s religions, but how good is your god if he sends all nonbelievers to a place of endless torture? sounds like a discriminating tyrant to me.
good point
I was speaking for Christianity. Islam says a mans deeds of good will be weighed against his bad and he will be judged depending on whether he did more good or more bad. Christianity says you must have faith and Jesus will take the punishment for you.
Therefore, being Atheist is still bad, but it won’t get you an instant ticket to Hell. A good man will still get into heaven.
Oh and the reason Atheism is bad is because it’s ungrateful. Allah is not specific about whether you’re Muslim either. The Quran says Jews and Christians will go to heaven if they are good souls.
seed wrote:
is this atheists a group or churh of religion?
Atheism is not a religion.
Last edited 25 Jan 2008 10:05 pm by Sean of the Living
SevenTimesSeven wrote:
Better Safe Than Sorry i Always Say. Lol
Really.. so what god are you going to pray to and force yourself to believe without evidence..
The Abrahamic God. Allah, Yahweh, Jehova...
those are His names, but he had many more.
And we have tons of fucking evidence. Have you even read the Quran? I explained to you all the scientific details in it but you just clap your hands over your head and say “La la la I’m not listening." Like the little child you are...
Well actually you, nor anyone in this world has evidence that a supernatural deity exists. One, there is no such thing as “science in the Qur’an”. For once, science is constantly changing based on new evidence. Your book won’t change if new evidence comes up because your book is dogmatic. It’s not reliable. What I find funny is that you Muslims ignore all the scientific inaccuracies such as the moon being a light, or semen coming from the spine.
Anyway who the fuck cares if the Qur’an restated things that humans already knew back then? It doesn’t give any more credit to any truth of a god if you have no evidence for him. Scripture is NOT evidence, I don’t know why people think it’s true just because it says it’s true. Let’s say that my dick, my semen cures all diseases, and you get Cancer. Would you suck my dick just based on my word that it would cure your cancer? I bet you would, you would enjoy that wouldn’t you.
bant car dice wrote:
One day a christian wasted there whole life following a bunch of absurd rules. They died to find out that they were in neither heaven or hell and were just dead. They just wasted there whole life not doing anything fun for nothing... haha
Consequence for being a Theist, if Atheism is true:
You obeyed a few extra laws you didn’t need to.
Consequence for being an Atheist, if Theism is true:
You are roasted by 70,0000 degree flames in excruciating pain, millions of times beyond anything you ever experienced on Earth, for all eternity. The pain will never go away or grow weaker and you have no chance of being spared this horrible fate.
lol, the Pascal’s Wager argument. The biggest flaw in this argument is that it assumes either that there is only one religion, or that we know exactly which religion is right. There are hundreds, possibly even thousands of religions throughout history and they are all different, the chances of you picking one specific religion out of all those and devoting your entire life to it and actually being right, are so small that it isn’t even worth considering devoting your life to a religion.
Well actually you, nor anyone in this world has evidence that a supernatural deity exists. One, there is no such thing as “science in the Qur’an”. For once, science is constantly changing based on new evidence. Your book won’t change if new evidence comes up because your book is dogmatic. It’s not reliable. What I find funny is that you Muslims ignore all the scientific inaccuracies such as the moon being a light, or semen coming from the spine.
Anyway who the fuck cares if the Qur’an restated things that humans already knew back then? It doesn’t give any more credit to any truth of a god if you have no evidence for him. Scripture is NOT evidence, I don’t know why people think it’s true just because it says it’s true. Let’s say that my dick, my semen cures all diseases, and you get Cancer. Would you suck my dick just based on my word that it would cure your cancer? I bet you would, you would enjoy that wouldn’t you.
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In denial always...
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Well that’s weird, scientists have NEVER found any evidence of hell existing below the Earth’s crust.
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Russian scientist listening to the sound of hell...
they never found any of it but they can hear it...
LOL
Hell in deep of the ground...
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“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster —
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Well actually you, nor anyone in this world has evidence that a supernatural deity exists. One, there is no such thing as “science in the Qur’an”. For once, science is constantly changing based on new evidence. Your book won’t change if new evidence comes up because your book is dogmatic. It’s not reliable. What I find funny is that you Muslims ignore all the scientific inaccuracies such as the moon being a light, or semen coming from the spine.
Anyway who the fuck cares if the Qur’an restated things that humans already knew back then? It doesn’t give any more credit to any truth of a god if you have no evidence for him. Scripture is NOT evidence, I don’t know why people think it’s true just because it says it’s true. Let’s say that my dick, my semen cures all diseases, and you get Cancer. Would you suck my dick just based on my word that it would cure your cancer? I bet you would, you would enjoy that wouldn’t you.
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In denial always...
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Well that’s weird, scientists have NEVER found any evidence of hell existing below the Earth’s crust.
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Russian scientist listening to the sound of hell...
they never found any of it but they can hear it...
LOL
Hell in deep of the ground...
Actually, those recordings have been proven to be a hoax. Soz.
Btw, I don’t WANT Hell to exist. I don’t make the freaking rules around here, nor does any other Theist. Like global warming is to many, to us who believe in Hell it is an inconvenient truth.
Although I guess Hell exists for a purpose.
People cry and complain like sissies, saying if God was real, he wouldn’t send people to Hell.
THE_PAIN wrote:
Forsaken Corpse wrote:
im atheist. i respect other people’s religions, but how good is your god if he sends all nonbelievers to a place of endless torture? sounds like a discriminating tyrant to me.
good point
God is a judge. What kind of judge punishes criminals? A MIGHTY GOOD ONE!
You guys think Allah’s going to let evil people into His kingdom? Why should he? He’s been generous by creating life in the first place. He has to draw the line somewhere. Trust me, disobeying an omnipotent being isn’t a very wise thing to do. I am very afraid of God and I am very afraid of Hell.
Last edited 26 Jan 2008 11:26 pm by Sean of the Living
bant car dice wrote:
One day a christian wasted there whole life following a bunch of absurd rules. They died to find out that they were in neither heaven or hell and were just dead. They just wasted there whole life not doing anything fun for nothing... haha
Consequence for being a Theist, if Atheism is true:
You obeyed a few extra laws you didn’t need to.
Consequence for being an Atheist, if Theism is true:
You are roasted by 70,0000 degree flames in excruciating pain, millions of times beyond anything you ever experienced on Earth, for all eternity. The pain will never go away or grow weaker and you have no chance of being spared this horrible fate.
I personally am non religious, but I have to admit you’re right, lol.
Nobody can be sure what fate beholds us after death.
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Well actually you, nor anyone in this world has evidence that a supernatural deity exists. One, there is no such thing as “science in the Qur’an”. For once, science is constantly changing based on new evidence. Your book won’t change if new evidence comes up because your book is dogmatic. It’s not reliable. What I find funny is that you Muslims ignore all the scientific inaccuracies such as the moon being a light, or semen coming from the spine.
Anyway who the fuck cares if the Qur’an restated things that humans already knew back then? It doesn’t give any more credit to any truth of a god if you have no evidence for him. Scripture is NOT evidence, I don’t know why people think it’s true just because it says it’s true. Let’s say that my dick, my semen cures all diseases, and you get Cancer. Would you suck my dick just based on my word that it would cure your cancer? I bet you would, you would enjoy that wouldn’t you.
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
In denial always...
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
Well that’s weird, scientists have NEVER found any evidence of hell existing below the Earth’s crust.
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
Russian scientist listening to the sound of hell...
they never found any of it but they can hear it...
LOL
Hell in deep of the ground...
Actually, those recordings have been proven to be a hoax. Soz.
Btw, I don’t WANT Hell to exist. I don’t make the freaking rules around here, nor does any other Theist. Like global warming is to many, to us who believe in Hell it is an inconvenient truth.
Although I guess Hell exists for a purpose.
People cry and complain like sissies, saying if God was real, he wouldn’t send people to Hell.
THE_PAIN wrote:
Forsaken Corpse wrote:
im atheist. i respect other people’s religions, but how good is your god if he sends all nonbelievers to a place of endless torture? sounds like a discriminating tyrant to me.
good point
God is a judge. What kind of judge punishes criminals? A MIGHTY GOOD ONE!
You guys think Allah’s going to let evil people into His kingdom? Why should he? He’s been generous by creating life in the first place. He has to draw the line somewhere. Trust me, disobeying an omnipotent being isn’t a very wise thing to do. I am very afraid of God and I am very afraid of Hell.
Well actually you, nor anyone in this world has evidence that a supernatural deity exists. One, there is no such thing as “science in the Qur’an”. For once, science is constantly changing based on new evidence. Your book won’t change if new evidence comes up because your book is dogmatic. It’s not reliable. What I find funny is that you Muslims ignore all the scientific inaccuracies such as the moon being a light, or semen coming from the spine.
If science is constantly changing, and you think that science points out that God isn’t real, then what’s to stop future science from shifting towards God’s favour? Using that argument, you can speculate all modern theories are bullshit, but that can just point out your arguments are just as invalid.
Go outside and look at a car. Now, by looking at it’s complex mechanics and design you can assume an intelligent being made it. You would be right. Humans, or machines programmed by humans make cars, not blind chance.
Now look at a fly. It’s even more complex than a car. It has sensory organs, a digestive system, a reproductive system, a DNA structure all into a tiny body and it fits in with an ecosystem that is very balanced. A fly is far, far more complex than a car. Now, if humans didn’t make flies, then would it be logical to assume something so complicated would come out of blind chance? No. It’s fucking ridiculous. So, would you assume something LESS complex, like a car, just happened to fall together and work perfectly by blind chance? No. So why is a fly any different? Or any of the animals on Earth? Or the Earth itself? Or the entire universes physical laws? Time? These all surpass anything a human could make, therefore something smarter than a human must have made them. It also must have been very powerful when you look at the masses of energy in the universe. Now, look at these characteristics, extremely strong and extremely intelligent. The picture of God starts to build up and the idea of blind chance doing all this crumbles into dust.
Btw, The Noble Quran says the moon reflects light in it’s original Arabic. And it doesn’t say the spine makes semen, it says the kidneys filter some of the bodily fluids used to make it.
ramunematt wrote:
Anyway who the fuck cares if the Qur’an restated things that humans already knew back then? It doesn’t give any more credit to any truth of a god if you have no evidence for him. Scripture is NOT evidence, I don’t know why people think it’s true just because it says it’s true. Let’s say that my dick, my semen cures all diseases, and you get Cancer. Would you suck my dick just based on my word that it would cure your cancer? I bet you would, you would enjoy that wouldn’t you.
Okay, you’ve hit rock bottom here. Instead of adressing my points, you’ve made a ridiculous comparison and implied that I was homosexual. How mature of you. It’s especially ironic how you Atheists often claim to be “accepting” of homosexuals and have just called someone gay as if it’s an insult, who you claim to not be accepting of homosexuality. If there’s nothing wrong with being gay, then why do you try to insult me by calling me gay?
And your “rebuttal” doesn’t prove anything either. I can do that. Look:
“Okay, your Atheist arguments seem to say that we Theists are wasting our lives taking extra safety precautions. What if I told you that mercury wasn’t poisonous and you were dying of thirst? Would you give it a shot? I bet you would."
Last edited 27 Jan 2008 02:12 am by Sean of the Living
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