| 12 Mar 2008 10:13 am |
B-L Guest | Andy Condor wrote:
B-L wrote:
Your right Spidey’s speed is triggered by his spider sense,
which then means again to what I was saying earleir on that
it’s going to be hard to touch Spidey.It is rare for him to
be hit,very rare
Yes it is rare for humans but the likes Deadpool
and Iron Fist have touched him on many occassions
and not to mention Captian America himself.There
are ways to trigger Spiderman’s spider sense and Batman himself has does this beating Spiderman and not only him but also the likes of Venum,the Green Goblin and Carnage have altered Spiderman’s
spider sense
OK I’ve got 3 questions for you.
1) Since you say Batman versus Captian America
was a fluke,how did Batman beat Captian
America?
2) Can Captian America take a 10 ton punch in the
gut?
3) It is understandable why Batman beat Spidey,he
used his weapons.How is Captian America going
to beat Spiderman? In order for someone to
beat Spidey,you must have tons of weapons to
use like Blade or Batman,you can’t rely on
skills and hand to hand combat especially if
your strength and speed are that to a human’s
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| 12 Mar 2008 12:51 pm |
Andy Condor Guest | Ok first answering your first question
1) Batman and Captian America fought in the sewers,Batman
used his batarangs and managed to slice Cap on the skull
That is how he defeated Cap because if it came to a
brawl fight,Captian America would win-not Batman.
2) Can Cap take a 10 ton punch in the gut? I’m afraid I
don’t get your question?
3) How is Captian America going to beat Spiderman since he
doesn’t have weapons? He has his shield and fists to
do the job.Remember when I said that in Amazing
Spiderman featuring Cap against the villian Electro?
Cap punched Spidey so hard he sent him crashing into a
brick and Spidey was about to pass out,he then made an
exit.Captian America could do the same,he doesn’t need
weapons and he is after all more skilled,he could do
that.
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| 13 Mar 2008 08:10 am |
B-L Guest | Andy Condor wrote:
Ok first answering your first question
1) Batman and Captian America fought in the sewers,Batman
used his batarangs and managed to slice Cap on the skull
That is how he defeated Cap because if it came to a
brawl fight,Captian America would win-not Batman.
2) Can Cap take a 10 ton punch in the gut? I’m afraid I
don’t get your question?
3) How is Captian America going to beat Spiderman since he
doesn’t have weapons? He has his shield and fists to
do the job.Remember when I said that in Amazing
Spiderman featuring Cap against the villian Electro?
Cap punched Spidey so hard he sent him crashing into a
brick and Spidey was about to pass out,he then made an
exit.Captian America could do the same,he doesn’t need
weapons and he is after all more skilled,he could do
that.
They were not fighting each other,you said it yourself that Spidey was swinging around looking for Electro unaware of Cap who then surprised Spidey with a punch.And you also said Spidey didn’t want to fight Cap so he left,if he stayed then he could of damaged Captian America.
So Batman defeated Captian America using his batarangs? Fine.Isn’t Captian America more agile than Batman? He could of dodged those batarangs like Spiderman would.What if Captian America was caught in Spidey’s webs? Then what? He does have super human strength to break free from them.
And last but not least,you asked what I meant by saying can Cap take a 10 ton punch to the gut?
I meant that could Captian America take a punch in the mid section from a mutant that can lift 10
tons.Notice why I used the minimum number 10 and not 25 ton.You do realise if Cap recieved a 25ton
punch in the gut his organs will be shattered to jelly?
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| 14 Mar 2008 08:04 am |
Andy Condor Guest | Captian America did dodge the batarangs and he also used his shield to block the batarangs,I don’t know how Batman managed to slice Cap on the skull with the batarangs.But he
did outsmart Cap and remember we are talking about DC’s greatest detective who has never lost a DC/Marvel battle.
Captian America does not have spider sense,so it is understandable why he didn’t know there was a batarang heading towards his head.
If Captian America was caught in Spidey’s webs.Hmmm.First of he has to make sure he doesn’t get caught in them,he has
his shield against Spidey.But if he was caught,depending on
the webs that Spidey might use,he could brake free but that
depends on the webs.
I finally get your “can Cap take a 10 ton punch to the gut?".No I doubt it,and a 25 ton punch to the gut would destroy Cap and that part I admit.
Remember since Spidey’s powers have increased,so has Captian America’s and you would be shocked the things he could pull.
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| 16 Mar 2008 01:12 pm |
B-L Guest | Andy Condor wrote:
Captian America did dodge the batarangs and he also used his shield to block the batarangs,I don’t know how Batman managed to slice Cap on the skull with the batarangs.But he
did outsmart Cap and remember we are talking about DC’s greatest detective who has never lost a DC/Marvel battle.
Captian America does not have spider sense,so it is understandable why he didn’t know there was a batarang heading towards his head.
If Captian America was caught in Spidey’s webs.Hmmm.First of he has to make sure he doesn’t get caught in them,he has
his shield against Spidey.But if he was caught,depending on
the webs that Spidey might use,he could brake free but that
depends on the webs.
I finally get your “can Cap take a 10 ton punch to the gut?".No I doubt it,and a 25 ton punch to the gut would destroy Cap and that part I admit.
Remember since Spidey’s powers have increased,so has Captian America’s and you would be shocked the things he could pull.
What do you mean Batman has never lost in a DC versus Marvel crossover? Batman lost to Daredevil
in Wizard Entertianment presents Batman vs Daredevil.
And what do you mean by saying Captian America would break free from Spiderman’s webs? A lot of heroes like Hulk,Wolverine and Carnage struggle to break free from Spidey’s webs,what makes you think Captian America (with limited strength) could break free? And let me finally resolve this.
Speed- Goes to Spiderman
Strength- Spiderman
Agility- Spiderman
Reflexes- Spiderman
Durability- Spiderman
Skills- Captian America
Weapons- Draw
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| 17 Mar 2008 08:04 am |
Andy Condor Guest | You know how lame Wizard Entertianment is,Batman should of won that match against Daredevil.And the same goes for Batman vs Spiderman (winner Batman) and Superman vs the Mighty Thor (winner Thor),both these topics had lousy writers from both Marvel and DC.
In terms of Captian America
breaking free from Spiderman’s webs,I told you that it depends on the webs that Spidey’s using.I don’t know why you put Wolverine with the likes of Hulk and Carnage when it comes to breaking free from Spiderman’s webs,Wolverine doesn’t even have strength.And Cap’s strength beats Wolverine’s by the way...
And speaking of strength,Captian America’s strenght has increased.He can support 3 tons now and can dodge bullets like Spiderman,so like I said before Spiderman’s speed won’t be a threat to Captian America.
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| 18 Mar 2008 02:38 pm |
B-L Guest | Andy Condor wrote:
You know how lame Wizard Entertianment is,Batman should of won that match against Daredevil.And the same goes for Batman vs Spiderman (winner Batman) and Superman vs the Mighty Thor (winner Thor),both these topics had lousy writers from both Marvel and DC.
In terms of Captian America
breaking free from Spiderman’s webs,I told you that it depends on the webs that Spidey’s using.I don’t know why you put Wolverine with the likes of Hulk and Carnage when it comes to breaking free from Spiderman’s webs,Wolverine doesn’t even have strength.And Cap’s strength beats Wolverine’s by the way...
And speaking of strength,Captian America’s strenght has increased.He can support 3 tons now and can dodge bullets like Spiderman,so like I said before Spiderman’s speed won’t be a threat to Captian America.
What?!! Captian America can dodge bullets?!! Since when?!! And you say he can now support 3 tons?!! No no no no this isn’t the Captian America I know.
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| 19 Mar 2008 08:12 am |
Apile-Li Guest | Andy’s right Brandon,Captian America can dodge bullets and can now lift 3 tons!!! His powers were increased by Marvel so Andy ain’t lying,I too read a lot of Captian America comics.....especially the Avengers
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| 24 Mar 2008 06:29 am |
Ryo Ketchum Guest | Apile-Li wrote:
Andy’s right Brandon,Captian America can dodge bullets and can now lift 3 tons!!! His powers were increased by Marvel so Andy ain’t lying,I too read a lot of Captian America comics.....especially the Avengers
And to add on,he (Captian America) is strong as 10 men but this is not to say he can beat Spidey.
Remember Spidey is strong as 47 men compared to Captian America who’s strong as 10 men.And I agree Brandon or B-L whatever that Spidey would beat Cap but Cap won’t go down easly.He will put up a good fight but in the end Spidey would win.
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| 24 Mar 2008 10:13 am |
B-L Guest | Marvel has definately increased Cap’s abilities,if he can dodge bullets and can be strong as 10 men (because it is said he can be strong as a human can be) then he is going to be a match up for Spiderman but not to say he can beat the Web Slinger.Anyway can Captian America really dodge bullets? Like Spider-Man? Because the only hero I know who can dodge bullets is Spiderman.
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| 25 Mar 2008 05:35 am |
Ryo Ketchum Guest | B-L wrote:
Marvel has definately increased Cap’s abilities,if he can dodge bullets and can be strong as 10 men (because it is said he can be strong as a human can be) then he is going to be a match up for Spiderman but not to say he can beat the Web Slinger.Anyway can Captian America really dodge bullets? Like Spider-Man? Because the only hero I know who can dodge bullets is Spiderman.
You don’t read Captian America comics do you?
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| 25 Mar 2008 03:34 pm |
B-L Guest | No.Why’s that important?
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| 26 Mar 2008 08:35 am |
Ryo Ketchum Guest | B-L wrote:
No.Why’s that important?
Dude.Because he dodges bullets in every comics,I don’t know why Andy didn’t bring this earlier on because you guys wouldn’t be going in circles with this debate.
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| 28 Mar 2008 03:28 am |
B-L Guest | Okay so how certian are you that he can dodge bullets like Spiderman?
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| 28 Mar 2008 09:08 am |
SunWeb not home Guest | How can Cap DODGE BULLETS ?????? He is not that quick, he don’t have such reflexes, HOW ?
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| 01 Apr 2008 02:12 pm |
Apile-Li Guest | SunWeb not home wrote:
How can Cap DODGE BULLETS ?????? He is not that quick, he don’t have such reflexes, HOW ?
One of the comics I read of Captian America,he said that he can
he can actually see bullets when they are fired out
from a revolver or gun and that is why he is able to dodge
them. He even dodged a bullet fired out from a shot gun at
close range and used his strength to break the gun in half
knocking out a punk who tried to shoot him with a punch
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| 02 Apr 2008 07:11 am |
Ryo Ketchum Guest | B-L wrote:
Okay so how certian are you that he can dodge bullets like Spiderman?
To be honest I wouldn’t know,remember the spider sense of Spider-Man is the key to Spidey’s speed.
If something alarms Spiderman,he will use his speed to dodge the attack and that is where the speed comes in handy.Captian America unlike Spiderman actually sees the bullets fired from a gun and that is probably why he can dodge them.
Marvel doesn’t mention anything of Captian America having super human speed and the same goes for Spiderman who has Enhanced speed.
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| 02 Apr 2008 10:57 am |
SunWeb not home Guest | To see bullet U must move on the same speed or close to it. Cap aint so fast.
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| 03 Apr 2008 11:31 am |
Ryo Ketchum Guest | SunWeb not home wrote:
To see bullet U must move on the same speed or close to it. Cap aint so fast.
No body said he was,I simply said that he can “see a bullet” when its fired from a gun and that is why he can dodge them.He does that in comics,guys who read Captian America comics know that.
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| 03 Apr 2008 01:13 pm |
ALL HAIL 98SUPRA Rep: 57  Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 12,189 OFFLINE | Why is this thread still hear.
Spider Man Wins
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