Captian America vs Spider-Man (Marvel's finest)

98supra wrote: Why is this thread still hear.



Spider Man Wins

Andy Condor wrote: Okay so Brandon (if your still here),your still not convinced that Captian America can dodge bullets? If you don’t I could easly provide proof if you want

Andy Condor wrote: I’ll show you in these easy steps because it is complicated.Here are the steps:

Step 1
Go to Google and type Captian America versus Spider-Man

Step 2
Various post concering Captian America vs Spider-Man will show,click on one of them.

Step 3
COMIC VINE will appear and the battle will be “renamed” spiderman vs captian america.

Step 4
COMIC VINE is a post like this thread where people are debating on who would win.Go to page 13 and it will show you three comic strips of Captian America dodging bullets with ease.

I know Brandon this “step by step” issue is dumb and obvoius but trust me,if you follow these steps you will get
the info you need.Let me know if you encounter problems

Andy Condor wrote: Oh so we are back at it again heh? I’m glad you found those
images because now I’m under the impression that you and I are going to be debating (again) and this time using facts.
In the previuse pages you stated Spiderman outwits Captian America in strength,speed,reflexes/agility,possibly durability and of course Spiderman’s BONUS spider sense.
Sadly Cap only outwits Spidey in skills and hand to hand combat.

Out of the lengths Spidey outclasses Cap,let’s take away Spidey’s speed.Why? Simple.Captian America can dodge bullets-Spiderman can dodge bullets...so they are equal in terms of speed.Which then leaves the rest,including strength.You saw for yourself Captian America almost made Spiderman pass out with that punch and remember Spiderman was beserk,if Cap wanted to take him out he would have.

Andy Condor wrote: There is nothing special about it. The thing is is that when
Marvel heroes fight Spiderman who has gone beserk,they
actually have a chance of beating him then they do when
Spidey is normal.The likes of Daredevil and Blade are the
few that have fought a beserk Spidey and defeated him.
Now this adds that since Spidey can loose to these two
Marvel heroes,the chances are high that he can loose
Captian America-after all he is stronger and faster than
both of them (Daredevil & Blade).

The speed factor,once again we are back to this factor.
Look obvoiusly Captian America can’t beat Spidey in a
foot race but his speed is still something not to be taken
lightly-he is after all faster than a human can be and has
prooved that in comics like catching up with a motor cycle
and dodging bullets.

So yeah Spiderman’s speed isn’t going to be that much
of a threat against Cap,Spidey’s strength and spider-sense
are the only 2 things he has over Captian America.

Ragnar Fortiscue wrote: Very good Brandon,I don’t think there is a better way of
defining the different strength factor between the 2.
I must admit,it’s quite a clever way of showing the strength
factor but I never knew that Captian America could
support 3 tons.I never even knew he could lift a ton
since it is said he can lift 800-900 pounds but
anyway what do I know of Cap’s abilities-I don’t
read his comics and Spiderman for that matter.
Andy even you have got to give credit to
Brandon’s idea....

B-L wrote: You keep saying Captian America’s punches are not something
to be taken lightly-well Spiderman’s punches are (too) something
to be taken lightly.He just like Captian America has fought the likes
of Hulk and has faced far much stronger enemies than Captian
America,like Rhino,Venom,the Green Goblin,Carnage and so
on-the list is endless.And Captian America? He is always
in war with soldiers and fighting that same annoying
villian-the Red Skull.

B-L wrote: Because all the time I always see him going at it with Captian America,in comics,television and in movies.All the time he is facing the Red Skull,fine maybe Captian America has more enemies than just the Red Skull but it’s nothing compared to numerous villians Spiderman has to face.And since we are on this subject of Red Skull:

Red Skull has no super human powers,he is just like the Joker-a crazy man with a red swollen tomato like head.But he seems to give Captian America when it comes to fighting,
in the animated series of Spiderman guest starring Captian America,the two of them wrestled each other and Cap was really struggling!!!!Now it seems odd for a guy strong as 10 men to struggle with a mere human.Spiderman is much more
stronger and faster than the Red Skull,how Captian America going to keep up with Spidey if he has trouble with the Red
Skull?

B-L wrote: Ha ha ha “Spiderman is basically fighting Tarzan with weapons”,that’s a good one.But my friend let me explain to the Kraven I know.

By ingesting mystical potions, Kraven and his heirs are able to gain various superhuman physical capabilities. These same potions also slow the aging process, for example, at the time of the original Kraven’s death he was over 70 years old and he appeared to be in the prime of his life, though age was beginning to affect him.

Kraven’s physical senses, strength, speed, stamina, agility, dexterity, reflexes, coordination, balance, and endurance are heightened to superhuman levels. Kraven and his heirs more or less constantly ingest these potions and herbs, so they normally have these abilities, but without the effects of these potions they still possess physical abilities of the level of an Olympic athlete.

Aside from the augmentation of the mystical herbs, the original Kraven was a brilliant tactician and gifted hunter and tracker. He was a master of many forms of armed and unarmed combat. He was very familiar with medicine and with exotic poisons and tranquilizers. His sons also possess(ed) knowledge in these areas.

That my friend is the Kraven Spiderman faces,he is far much
stronger and possibly faster than Tarzan (a man with limited strength of an ape).So that explains why Spiderman at times looses to Kraven the hunter.

Back to Red Skull,sorry my baad.I didn’t know that he had the same powers as Captian America so I take back everything I said about him.But back to Captian America,my offer still stands that he would loose badly to Spiderman despite his strength and speed.Cap’s strength is like I guess to that of DC’s Bane-Spiderman is far more stronger that.

B-L wrote: The Kingpin has no superhuman powers. However, he is
incredibly strong and durable, possessing a remarkable strength concealed by his somewhat corpulent appearance. He has been shown to be strong enough to hurl people across a room, crush a man’s skull with his bare hands, leave imprints in concrete walls after punching them, and even crushing one of Spider-Man’s web shooters without making any great effort. Contrary to all appearances, most of his body mass is actually muscle that has been built to extraordinary size, much like a sumo wrestler and he is almost as strong as it is physically possible for a 'normal' human to be. The Kingpin is a master of many forms of armed and unarmed combat, particularly sumo, jujutsu, and hapkido. He is an extraordinarily skilled martial artist, especially in sumo wrestling, and is an experienced bodybuilder.

He typically wears Kevlar armor under his clothing. Fisk sometimes carries a walking stick that conceals a laser beam weapon capable of firing a blast of concussive force sufficient for vaporizing a handgun (or a person’s head) at close range; this is also known as his “obliterator cane." He typically wears an ornamental diamond stick-pin that conceals a highly compressed chamber of sleeping gas that is effective if sprayed at close range directly into his victim’s face. Due to his wealth and intellectual industry, Kingpin could use far more advanced paraphernalia, but he prefers to use such things as a last resort. As Fisk became less Spider-Man’s nemesis than Daredevil’s, he became more of a naturalistic mafioso than a comic-book criminal mastermind, and depended less on science fiction-like weaponry.

Aside from his remarkable physical advantages and special paraphernalia, the Kingpin is intellectually formidable and is a master tactician and a highly skilled planner and organizer. He is self-educated to the university graduate level in the field of political science. He is extremely skilled and knowledgeable in the organization and management of criminal and legal business operations. Kingpin is also a master manipulator, occasionally going so far as to lead superheroes into taking down criminal rivals that pose a threat to his position, as he once did to Sleepwalker and Spider-Man

This my friend is taken from Wikipedia,so the Kingpin
is more than just a summo wrestler with a walking
kane.He is (or rather was) a match for the olden day
Spiderman who could bend 10 tons but his no match
for the new and improved Spiderman who can lift
25 tons now.