seed wrote:
here from john 1:14
the “WORD” became flesh and dwellt among us and we beheld his glory,the glory as of the only begotten of the father,full of grace and truth.
Well then, my quote from you gospel points out a contradiction. Besides, that’s just an APOSTLE speaking. Who do you think knows more about Jesus (pbuh)? An apostle, or himself? Jesus (pbuh) HIMSELF stated HE WAS NOT GOD (SWT).
Sean of the Living wrote:
I can prove Jesus (pbuh) is not God (SWT).
Now, I myself do not believe the Bible as a whole, especially the new testament, but if your Bible states it and you truly follow it you cannot be against it.
Matthew:
19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life
19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Jesus (pbuh) clearly made himself VERY seperate from God (SWT) in that verse of your Bible. So, if you truly believe your Bible, or you believe the Quran, you must come to the conclusion that Jesus (pbuh) is not God (SWT) If Jesus (pbuh) was God (SWT) he would need to be 100% perfect just like God (SWT) and he has clearly denied being so. If what he said was false that would make him a liar and God (SWT) does not lie.
WHO IS JESUS FOR YOU?
I have told you many times.
Jesus (pbuh) is a PROPHET. Just like Adam, Noah, Muhammed, Moses and many others (pbuta), he was a PROPHET working for God (SWT).
He was not the son of God (SWT).
He was not God (SWT).
He was a prophet.
so the bible lies?
post you evidence that he is a PROPHET and equal to other PROPHET?
[quote=bahaha — its me]do u believe that God and jesus are the same?
NO.
they are the same god but the father is greater than him.
there is a verse that he said those words but i forgot it.
soon ill post it if i found.
philliphians 2:6
who,bieng in the form of GOD(jesus),did not consider it robbery to be equal with GOD(his father).
Sean of the Living wrote:
I think Jesus (pbuh) knows who he is. If he was g]God SWT, he would have said it.
he is the son ,right? it means a god also.
That would make Jesus his own father.
And God his own Son.
It would also mean that God is made of two parts, despite that fact that Exodus says he composes of ONE whole.
Exodus 20:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one
that is old testament,right?
that time god has not yet introduce christ.
your Exodus 20:4 is different than mine.
Exodus 20:4
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
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