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[Quote] #41
02 Feb 2008 05:35 pm
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Red_Calibur9 wrote: Try to disprove God to me. Make me believe that God doesn’t exist.

1 rule: You can’t use science.

Go.


The idea of god is a man created thing, as there is nothing in nature that man could have derived a god from.

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02 Feb 2008 05:50 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Totalitus wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote: Try to disprove God to me. Make me believe that God doesn’t exist.

1 rule: You can’t use science.

Go.

Problem hither. It’s the theist’s job to prove God exists. Not the atheist’s job to disprove.

Is it? Is it because disproving is impossible?


It’s because the burden of proof is on whoever makes the claim. Theists are claiming god exists, so they have to prove it.

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02 Feb 2008 06:28 pm
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kev360 wrote:
Gplex wrote: All mainstream Protestants generally trace their separation from the Roman Catholic Church to the 16th century. So what makes your god more true then a Roman Catholic God? - I need to find out what and why you believe. Make if so I dont have to adress 100% of every claim because that would take quite a bit of typing.

we don’t vote for a person who has so much power HIS word is more important then Gods. we don’t go against the bible by praying to false gods (saints). we don’t make idles to gods (saints). want me to go on?


I’d just like to say this.

This post was an ignorant, incorrect, and just flat out stupid stereotype of Catholics.

That is all.

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02 Feb 2008 10:57 pm
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ramunematt wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
ramunematt wrote: Your asking us to disprove god without science

logic is part of science

therefore we can’t use logic

therefore you want us to illogically disprove god


the sky is the color 64, therefore god does not exist.

Your argument phails.

Nope, I still believe in God. grin


I wasn’t expecting you to stop believing in god. For one, belief is not a choice. You can’t instantly choose whether or not you believe in god, or whether you believe that special someone is “the one” and so on. If you made this topic to tell us to try and disprove god, then you are using the argument from ignorance. If you made this topic because you want to stop believing in god, then you have to do it yourself by observing the world around you and all the evidence from both sides until your mind comes to a conclusion of belief or disbelief, which takes a while BTW.

Well, I daresay belief is a choice, but I didn’t plan on changing my beliefs anyway.


You think belief is a choice eh? Do me a favor. Convert to Hinduism and try to believe in all of their gods. After you’ve attempted that, tell me if you still think belief is a choice.

First of all, I could do that if I wanted to.
Second, I don’t want to.

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02 Feb 2008 10:59 pm
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ramunematt wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Totalitus wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote: Try to disprove God to me. Make me believe that God doesn’t exist.

1 rule: You can’t use science.

Go.

Problem hither. It’s the theist’s job to prove God exists. Not the atheist’s job to disprove.

Is it? Is it because disproving is impossible?


It’s because the burden of proof is on whoever makes the claim. Theists are claiming god exists, so they have to prove it.

I don’t see any disproof. That’s proof enough for us.

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02 Feb 2008 11:04 pm
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Red_Calibur9 wrote: I don’t see any disproof. That’s proof enough for us.


So then you must believe in all these.

Amphisbaena
Argus Panoptes
Athos
Calydonian Boar
Centaur
Cerberus
Ceryneian Hind
Charon
Charybdis (Kharybdis)
Chimera
Chiron (a centaur)
Chrysaor
Clytias (Klytias)
Cretan Bull
Cyclopes (Kyklopês)
Echidna
Empusa
Enceladus (Enkelados)
Erymanthian Boar
Furies
Geryon
Gorgons
Euryale
Delphi
Demigod
Immortals
Medusa
Stheno
Graeae
Griffins
Gigantes
Harpies
Hippocampus
Hydra
Ladon
Lamia
Mares of Diomedes
Minotaur
Nemean Lion
Nymph
Oceanid
Orthrus
Pegasus (Pegasos)
Phoenix (Phoinix)
Polyphemus (Poluphemos)
Python (Pytho)
Satyr
Scylla (Skylla)
Silenus
Siren
Stymphalian Birds
Talos
Teumessian fox (see also Laelaps)
Triton
Typhon
Amun
Anubis
Aten
Atum
Bastet
Bes
Geb
Hapy
Hathor
Horus
Isis
Khepri
Khnum
Ma’at
Nephthys
Nun
Nut
Osiris
Ptah
Ra
Ra-Horakhty
Sekhmet
Seshat
Seth
Shu
Sobek
Tawaret
Tefnut
Thoth

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02 Feb 2008 11:05 pm
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Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote: I don’t see any disproof. That’s proof enough for us.


So then you must believe in all these.

Amphisbaena
Argus Panoptes
Athos
Calydonian Boar
Centaur
Cerberus
Ceryneian Hind
Charon
Charybdis (Kharybdis)
Chimera
Chiron (a centaur)
Chrysaor
Clytias (Klytias)
Cretan Bull
Cyclopes (Kyklopês)
Echidna
Empusa
Enceladus (Enkelados)
Erymanthian Boar
Furies
Geryon
Gorgons
Euryale
Delphi
Demigod
Immortals
Medusa
Stheno
Graeae
Griffins
Gigantes
Harpies
Hippocampus
Hydra
Ladon
Lamia
Mares of Diomedes
Minotaur
Nemean Lion
Nymph
Oceanid
Orthrus
Pegasus (Pegasos)
Phoenix (Phoinix)
Polyphemus (Poluphemos)
Python (Pytho)
Satyr
Scylla (Skylla)
Silenus
Siren
Stymphalian Birds
Talos
Teumessian fox (see also Laelaps)
Triton
Typhon
Amun
Anubis
Aten
Atum
Bastet
Bes
Geb
Hapy
Hathor
Horus
Isis
Khepri
Khnum
Ma’at
Nephthys
Nun
Nut
Osiris
Ptah
Ra
Ra-Horakhty
Sekhmet
Seshat
Seth
Shu
Sobek
Tawaret
Tefnut
Thoth

No. So because I believe in God and that you can’t disprove him, I automatically believe in all other disprovable beliefs?

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02 Feb 2008 11:09 pm
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Red_Calibur9 wrote: No. So because I believe in God and that you can’t disprove him, I automatically believe in all other disprovable beliefs?

Hey its your logice not mine, using your logic you should believe in all of them.
Red_Calibur9 wrote: I don’t see any disproof. That’s proof enough for us.

or did you for get what you just typed?

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02 Feb 2008 11:15 pm
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Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote: No. So because I believe in God and that you can’t disprove him, I automatically believe in all other disprovable beliefs?

Hey its your logice not mine, using your logic you should believe in all of them.
Red_Calibur9 wrote: I don’t see any disproof. That’s proof enough for us.

or did you for get what you just typed?

I never said that I have to believe in anything that doesn’t have any disproof.

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02 Feb 2008 11:16 pm
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Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote: No. So because I believe in God and that you can’t disprove him, I automatically believe in all other disprovable beliefs?

Hey its your logice not mine, using your logic you should believe in all of them.
Red_Calibur9 wrote: I don’t see any disproof. That’s proof enough for us.

or did you for get what you just typed?

I never said that I have to believe in anything that doesn’t have any disproof.

So why does your god have more credit then another god? If it can be proven through your unreasoning.

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02 Feb 2008 11:18 pm
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Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote: No. So because I believe in God and that you can’t disprove him, I automatically believe in all other disprovable beliefs?

Hey its your logice not mine, using your logic you should believe in all of them.
Red_Calibur9 wrote: I don’t see any disproof. That’s proof enough for us.

or did you for get what you just typed?

I never said that I have to believe in anything that doesn’t have any disproof.

So why does your god have more credit then another god? If it can be proven through your unreasoning.

I believe in my God. I don’t believe in others. Deal with it.

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02 Feb 2008 11:22 pm
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Red_Calibur9 wrote: I believe in my God. I don’t believe in others. Deal with it.

Thats just another way of telling me not to ask anymore questions, are you scared of your own unreasonable logic?

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02 Feb 2008 11:22 pm
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Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote: I believe in my God. I don’t believe in others. Deal with it.

Thats just another way of telling me not to ask anymore questions, are you scared of your own unreasonable logic?

No, I answered your question. Or statement. Or whatever.

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02 Feb 2008 11:26 pm
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Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote: I believe in my God. I don’t believe in others. Deal with it.

Thats just another way of telling me not to ask anymore questions, are you scared of your own unreasonable logic?

No, I answered your question. Or statement. Or whatever.

You didnt answer my question. You avoided it.

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02 Feb 2008 11:27 pm
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Why would I try to make you believe something that doesn’t even exist to begin with?.

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02 Feb 2008 11:28 pm
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I believe in my God because... I choose it over other beliefs, I s’pose. That’s really all I have to say.

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02 Feb 2008 11:32 pm
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Red_Calibur9 wrote: I believe in my God because... I choose it over other beliefs, I s’pose. That’s really all I have to say.

So if you where born in another religion you would have the same opinion of that relgion you where born into? Can you not see how silly this must seem to someone like me looking from the outside in?

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02 Feb 2008 11:48 pm
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Red_Calibur9 wrote: I believe in my God because... I choose it over other beliefs, I s’pose. That’s really all I have to say.



First of all, its a logical impossibility to prove something that doesn’t exist,regardless of the subject, let alone the fantastical idea that there’s a supernatural sentient being out there.

I can’t make people disprove there god, I found it to be impossible, therefore no matter what I say, at the end, all you have is faith to believe in...


There is no evidence that god doesn’t exist and there is not a scratch if evidence that he does.
People are entitled to their view and opinions and sometimes both sides take it too far.No one is right and no one is wrong...

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pointless...
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ramunematt wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Totalitus wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote: Try to disprove God to me. Make me believe that God doesn’t exist.

1 rule: You can’t use science.

Go.

Problem hither. It’s the theist’s job to prove God exists. Not the atheist’s job to disprove.

Is it? Is it because disproving is impossible?


It’s because the burden of proof is on whoever makes the claim. Theists are claiming god exists, so they have to prove it.


You couldn’t even prove your own existance. How is this fair?

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05 Feb 2008 03:09 am
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Human mind cant reach the essences of God nor His molecules or something... Human logic cant reach even poltergeist...
What the fuck...

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