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[Quote] #61
07 May 2008 03:21 pm
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Well I stopped being an atheist because I realised that when I applied the same absurdly high standard that I applied to Christians to my own atheism - my own atheism didn’t come out so well.

I looked at Richard Dawkins and found a lot of his arguments to be fundamentally flawed - such as his 'million monkeys with a million type writers' theme - It doesnt really work and he assumes genetic mutations are always for the better, which of course they aren’t so if they are not there must be countless numbers of evolutionary dead ends burried under our feet - surprisingly enough this is what paleontologists/evolutionists argued 100 years ago and they have yet to find a significant find and so resorted to ruses like the 'Pitcairn man'.

So I had a look into Christianity and read a load of theology books, talked to a lot of Christians and began to believe - mostly because I couldn’t convince myself that we magically made ourselves, or that all the mathematicians and cosmologist who argue that the mathematics of us being here at all - let alone to have developed a gene that allows us to be able to question our existence - is ridiculously high was all a matter of random chance. Apparently mathematically it would take 40 billion years for the most basic form of life to develop through random chance and since the planet has been here for approximately a little more than 4 billion and humans for only about 3 million it did sit true with me.

So I’m a bit skeptical of us magically making ourselves and for all the beauty of life on this planet to be here through random genetic mutations - I just don’t believe its that credible. Of course you could argue that we just got lucky and I can’t prove your wrong but then a poll could be done showing that the majority of people in England want Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister - I can’t prove it to be wrong but the odds of it being true are absurdly high...

Also its quite funny when atheists refuse to tolerate the idea of creationism because its not rational as it flies in the face of scientific method and rationality. In a sense, by current science, the birth of the universe began with the big bang and (its speculated) in the point singularity - if thats true then the laws of physics break down in the point singularity and, technically, the atheist beginning of the universe was not 'scientific' either.

Also most scientists believe in 'Dark Matter' which is unprovable - we can’t see it, touch it or smell it but they believe it is there - kinda like faith don’t you think?


So anyway this is pretty much a generic answer and I’m not trying to prove Christianity - I’m just trying to show theism is very credible and I can try to explain why I chose Christianity over other faiths if you wish.

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07 May 2008 03:44 pm
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I find though “We coudn’t have got here by random chance” arguments even more flawed.

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07 May 2008 03:53 pm
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Red_Calibur9 wrote: Try to disprove God to me. Make me believe that God doesn’t exist.

1 rule: You can’t use science.

Go.


Evidence

1.) Considering there have been THOUSANDS of Gods in the past like Zeus, Hades, etc. that have been proven to not exist in the past, what stops this God from being in existance?

2.) Holy Book’s innacuracies with geography, historical happenings, scientifical facts, etc.

3.) The bible was supposed to have 1000 extra chapters, but were not put in because it contradicted other beliefs in Christianity

4.) The idea that most racists/anti semetists are religious

5.) Most ideas that have been explained in the bible (like Creationism) have been proven wrong scientifically. (Another example is the fact we revolve around the sun instead of the sun revolving around us.)

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