| 08 Feb 2008 10:42 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Cid wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
BlacakaNigh95 wrote:
The Black Knight kill a army of Giant Cat and Tiger also lion without the Goddess armor.
He can do that all he wants but he still can’t kill Gannon. I mean he is IMMORTAL and the only other way to beat him is to seal him and....His team mate has the only means to seal him really.
Well, any powerful magic can seal him. But none of those can really keep him sealed forever. He always manages to break free, and these seals are powers of the goddesses. Anything less than that, likely isn’t to hold him for more than a few minutes.
Yeah, and it’s not like they would know how to seal him anyway.
Yeah, I mean.. The most effective way by far for sealing Ganondorf is stabbing the Mastersword into him, so Link is really the only person truly capable.
and yet he has shown to be able to be injured by weapons of light and severly weakened, he doesn’t need to be sealed away to be beaten, ike’s weapon is blessed as is he so it’s more than enough to severely injure ganondorf, ike is also stronger/faster/more skilled than link link is a boy naturally talented and a quick learner that is still nothing to a gifted individual who has faught many wars an d has trained his entire life so link is nothing to ike (most of links weapons would simply bounce of ike and black knight save for the master sword and the master sword wouldnt be able to hurt the black knight at all)
Okay allow me to pick away at your argument. Based on the games, to my knowledge, one can NEVER beat Gannon without the master sword therefor your argument fails. Link is the Chosen Warrior by the GODS. So there goes your argument. Also you have no proof Master Sword wouldn’t hurt Black Knight.
ganondorf howevr has been stunned and put down by blessed and light weapons (suc has ike and black knight ragnell and alondite)
ganondorf however posses no such blessed weapons making him useless against black knight, links master sword can’t pierce armor, wich is why he has such trouble with darknuts
as for ike he is faster and stronger than link and more skilled
and both ike and black knight are blessed so that chosen by the goddeses doesn’t mean anything in this case
He is put down for like what ten seconds? Sure, they might be able to beat Gannondorf like that, If they....have the master sword...oh wait. They will never have the master sword so they can’t beat Gannondorf. Also the chosen by the goddess was my argument against your 'he’s just a skilled kid' argument.
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the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
I saw nothing to suggest that he is faster or stronger or more skilled than Link at all. Also when did Lightning hurt Gannondorf? It never did severe damage and your never going to beat him that way anyway.
I said LIGHT spells light arrows and such, while attacks such as those don’t hurt ike or the black knight
link can’t jump as high or move as fast as ike (who can dodge lightning attacks, link has trouble enough dodging arrows) arrows also damage link which would bounce off ike
you have no evidence. and the videos you posted just showed ike locking swords with the black knight and some knight getting his ass killed by the black knight. not much evidence.
the evidence is in the games everything hapens in the game because you donnt know anything about the characters you arguing against doesn’t mean theres no evidence, I’m telling you how the game works and I’ve played zelda game to know what link can and cant do
link can’t harm the black knight
the black knight is faster than ganondorf
ike is faster and stronger than link and more skilled as well
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 | | | 08 Feb 2008 10:43 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85 Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
ganondorf however posses no such blessed weapons making him useless against black knight
Ganon is a sorcerer dude, one of the highest caliber as well. I’m sure he could do something, even if it’s just a simple paralysis spell while Link goes Oni and cuts some heads off.
 | | | 08 Feb 2008 10:44 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Cid wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
BlacakaNigh95 wrote:
The Black Knight kill a army of Giant Cat and Tiger also lion without the Goddess armor.
He can do that all he wants but he still can’t kill Gannon. I mean he is IMMORTAL and the only other way to beat him is to seal him and....His team mate has the only means to seal him really.
Well, any powerful magic can seal him. But none of those can really keep him sealed forever. He always manages to break free, and these seals are powers of the goddesses. Anything less than that, likely isn’t to hold him for more than a few minutes.
Yeah, and it’s not like they would know how to seal him anyway.
Yeah, I mean.. The most effective way by far for sealing Ganondorf is stabbing the Mastersword into him, so Link is really the only person truly capable.
and yet he has shown to be able to be injured by weapons of light and severly weakened, he doesn’t need to be sealed away to be beaten, ike’s weapon is blessed as is he so it’s more than enough to severely injure ganondorf, ike is also stronger/faster/more skilled than link link is a boy naturally talented and a quick learner that is still nothing to a gifted individual who has faught many wars an d has trained his entire life so link is nothing to ike (most of links weapons would simply bounce of ike and black knight save for the master sword and the master sword wouldnt be able to hurt the black knight at all)
Okay allow me to pick away at your argument. Based on the games, to my knowledge, one can NEVER beat Gannon without the master sword therefor your argument fails. Link is the Chosen Warrior by the GODS. So there goes your argument. Also you have no proof Master Sword wouldn’t hurt Black Knight.
ganondorf howevr has been stunned and put down by blessed and light weapons (suc has ike and black knight ragnell and alondite)
ganondorf however posses no such blessed weapons making him useless against black knight, links master sword can’t pierce armor, wich is why he has such trouble with darknuts
as for ike he is faster and stronger than link and more skilled
and both ike and black knight are blessed so that chosen by the goddeses doesn’t mean anything in this case
He is put down for like what ten seconds? Sure, they might be able to beat Gannondorf like that, If they....have the master sword...oh wait. They will never have the master sword so they can’t beat Gannondorf. Also the chosen by the goddess was my argument against your 'he’s just a skilled kid' argument.
that was a light arrow however when he has the holy weapon pierced through him he was down until it was taken out and the same thing applies for black knight link cant damage him without ragnell which he doesn’t have
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| | | 08 Feb 2008 10:44 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
BlacakaNigh95 wrote:
Beside Link got hit by a Hawk in it did damage to him.
Trackz:Think alot.
If you let the Hawk hit you sure. But I’m sure if you let the weakest enimies in the game hit Ike, they will kill him eventually so....
no because weak attacks dont hurt ike they could all gang up on him and their weapons would do absolutely no damage...if you’d play the game you’d no this
And if you knew anything about Zelda you would know the only weapon that can ultimatly beat Gannon is the master sword. He just has to be stunned, with light spells. Also to point out the Biggoron Sword is stronger than Master Sword and no matter how many times you hit Gannondorf with it, he won’t be beaten until you use the master sword so....
| | | 08 Feb 2008 10:45 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ganondorf however posses no such blessed weapons making him useless against black knight
Ganon is a sorcerer dude, one of the highest caliber as well. I’m sure he could do something, even if it’s just a simple paralysis spell while Link goes Oni and cuts some heads off.
ganondorf has never preformed a paralysis spell in game....oni link might be able to match ike
me=destinyguy678
| | | 08 Feb 2008 10:45 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105 Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,487 ONLINE | Trackz wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
I saw nothing to suggest that he is faster or stronger or more skilled than Link at all. Also when did Lightning hurt Gannondorf? It never did severe damage and your never going to beat him that way anyway.
I said LIGHT spells light arrows and such, while attacks such as those don’t hurt ike or the black knight
link can’t jump as high or move as fast as ike (who can dodge lightning attacks, link has trouble enough dodging arrows) arrows also damage link which would bounce off ike
you have no evidence. and the videos you posted just showed ike locking swords with the black knight and some knight getting his ass killed by the black knight. not much evidence.
the evidence is in the games everything hapens in the game because you donnt know anything about the characters you arguing against doesn’t mean theres no evidence, I’m telling you how the game works and I’ve played zelda game to know what link can and cant do
link can’t harm the black knight
the black knight is faster than ganondorf
ike is faster and stronger than link and more skilled as well
what makes him faster? he runs like any other normal person. and how do you know if link can harm the black knight or not? oh, that’s right. you can’t. and it does not matter if the black knight is faster than ganonfor or not, strategy will decide who will win the fight. | | | 08 Feb 2008 10:46 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
BlacakaNigh95 wrote:
Beside Link got hit by a Hawk in it did damage to him.
Trackz:Think alot.
If you let the Hawk hit you sure. But I’m sure if you let the weakest enimies in the game hit Ike, they will kill him eventually so....
no because weak attacks dont hurt ike they could all gang up on him and their weapons would do absolutely no damage...if you’d play the game you’d no this
And if you knew anything about Zelda you would know the only weapon that can ultimatly beat Gannon is the master sword. He just has to be stunned, with light spells. Also to point out the Biggoron Sword is stronger than Master Sword and no matter how many times you hit Gannondorf with it, he won’t be beaten until you use the master sword so....
biggorron sword doesn’t equal a blessed weapon while ragnell and alondite are, theyd be able to injure ganondorf, not seal him away but heavily injure him
me=destinyguy678
| | | 08 Feb 2008 10:47 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
Trackz wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
I saw nothing to suggest that he is faster or stronger or more skilled than Link at all. Also when did Lightning hurt Gannondorf? It never did severe damage and your never going to beat him that way anyway.
I said LIGHT spells light arrows and such, while attacks such as those don’t hurt ike or the black knight
link can’t jump as high or move as fast as ike (who can dodge lightning attacks, link has trouble enough dodging arrows) arrows also damage link which would bounce off ike
you have no evidence. and the videos you posted just showed ike locking swords with the black knight and some knight getting his ass killed by the black knight. not much evidence.
the evidence is in the games everything hapens in the game because you donnt know anything about the characters you arguing against doesn’t mean theres no evidence, I’m telling you how the game works and I’ve played zelda game to know what link can and cant do
link can’t harm the black knight
the black knight is faster than ganondorf
ike is faster and stronger than link and more skilled as well
what makes him faster? he runs like any other normal person. and how do you know if link can harm the black knight or not? oh, that’s right. you can’t. and it does not matter if the black knight is faster than ganonfor or not, strategy will decide who will win the fight.
played bot hgames, link is hit by arrows and other projectiles, ike can dodge lightning he is definently faster
and I do know you just can’t read the master sword couldnt pierce darknut armor in any game unless he cut it off, the black knight has no strap to be cut off so links attacks would be useless
me=destinyguy678
| | | 08 Feb 2008 10:48 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ganondorf however posses no such blessed weapons making him useless against black knight
Ganon is a sorcerer dude, one of the highest caliber as well. I’m sure he could do something, even if it’s just a simple paralysis spell while Link goes Oni and cuts some heads off.
ganondorf has never preformed a paralysis spell in game....oni link might be able to match ike
He’s a master sorcerer, that comes from Nintendo. He’s capable of teleportation, transformation, and immortality. Paralysis shouldn’t be a problem. And even if you don’t believe that, he’s probably done it in the old cartoon.
| | | 08 Feb 2008 10:48 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
BlacakaNigh95 wrote:
Beside Link got hit by a Hawk in it did damage to him.
Trackz:Think alot.
If you let the Hawk hit you sure. But I’m sure if you let the weakest enimies in the game hit Ike, they will kill him eventually so....
no because weak attacks dont hurt ike they could all gang up on him and their weapons would do absolutely no damage...if you’d play the game you’d no this
And if you knew anything about Zelda you would know the only weapon that can ultimatly beat Gannon is the master sword. He just has to be stunned, with light spells. Also to point out the Biggoron Sword is stronger than Master Sword and no matter how many times you hit Gannondorf with it, he won’t be beaten until you use the master sword so....
biggorron sword doesn’t equal a blessed weapon while ragnell and alondite are, theyd be able to injure ganondorf, not seal him away but heavily injure him
Yeah. Because Gannon is just going to let them hit him. He could just knock it out of their hands and make a barrier so the swords are not reachable and then Link and Gannon just beat the hell out of them.
| | | 08 Feb 2008 10:51 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ganondorf however posses no such blessed weapons making him useless against black knight
Ganon is a sorcerer dude, one of the highest caliber as well. I’m sure he could do something, even if it’s just a simple paralysis spell while Link goes Oni and cuts some heads off.
ganondorf has never preformed a paralysis spell in game....oni link might be able to match ike
He’s a master sorcerer, that comes from Nintendo. He’s capable of teleportation, transformation, and immortality. Paralysis shouldn’t be a problem. And even if you don’t believe that, he’s probably done it in the old cartoon.
thats the thing you cant use feats not preformed in the canon, one of the rules of such a debate or Icould say ike could just summon yune and turn everyone to stone
me=destinyguy678
| | | 08 Feb 2008 10:52 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Whoa I just found something interesting, it looks like this game is turn based... ---
| | | 08 Feb 2008 10:53 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
BlacakaNigh95 wrote:
Beside Link got hit by a Hawk in it did damage to him.
Trackz:Think alot.
If you let the Hawk hit you sure. But I’m sure if you let the weakest enimies in the game hit Ike, they will kill him eventually so....
no because weak attacks dont hurt ike they could all gang up on him and their weapons would do absolutely no damage...if you’d play the game you’d no this
And if you knew anything about Zelda you would know the only weapon that can ultimatly beat Gannon is the master sword. He just has to be stunned, with light spells. Also to point out the Biggoron Sword is stronger than Master Sword and no matter how many times you hit Gannondorf with it, he won’t be beaten until you use the master sword so....
biggorron sword doesn’t equal a blessed weapon while ragnell and alondite are, theyd be able to injure ganondorf, not seal him away but heavily injure him
Yeah. Because Gannon is just going to let them hit him. He could just knock it out of their hands and make a barrier so the swords are not reachable and then Link and Gannon just beat the hell out of them.
..wow so what is stopping black knight from telporting out or knocking the master hand out of link s hand...things like that dont happen in the game so why would they happen in this fight
me=destinyguy678
| | | 08 Feb 2008 10:55 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
BlacakaNigh95 wrote:
Beside Link got hit by a Hawk in it did damage to him.
Trackz:Think alot.
If you let the Hawk hit you sure. But I’m sure if you let the weakest enimies in the game hit Ike, they will kill him eventually so....
no because weak attacks dont hurt ike they could all gang up on him and their weapons would do absolutely no damage...if you’d play the game you’d no this
And if you knew anything about Zelda you would know the only weapon that can ultimatly beat Gannon is the master sword. He just has to be stunned, with light spells. Also to point out the Biggoron Sword is stronger than Master Sword and no matter how many times you hit Gannondorf with it, he won’t be beaten until you use the master sword so....
biggorron sword doesn’t equal a blessed weapon while ragnell and alondite are, theyd be able to injure ganondorf, not seal him away but heavily injure him
Yeah. Because Gannon is just going to let them hit him. He could just knock it out of their hands and make a barrier so the swords are not reachable and then Link and Gannon just beat the hell out of them.
..wow so what is stopping black knight from telporting out or knocking the master hand out of link s hand...things like that dont happen in the game so why would they happen in this fight
Actually in OOT it did, and the barrier would prevent anything from going outside it and Link could easily retrieve it. Also why could Zelda use her magic to make it teleport back in the barrier, because she couldn’t.
| | | 08 Feb 2008 10:56 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ganondorf however posses no such blessed weapons making him useless against black knight
Ganon is a sorcerer dude, one of the highest caliber as well. I’m sure he could do something, even if it’s just a simple paralysis spell while Link goes Oni and cuts some heads off.
ganondorf has never preformed a paralysis spell in game....oni link might be able to match ike
He’s a master sorcerer, that comes from Nintendo. He’s capable of teleportation, transformation, and immortality. Paralysis shouldn’t be a problem. And even if you don’t believe that, he’s probably done it in the old cartoon.
thats the thing you cant use feats not preformed in the canon, one of the rules of such a debate or Icould say ike could just summon yune and turn everyone to stone
The Cartoons were made in association with Nintendo of America, it’s pretty cannon.
| | | 08 Feb 2008 10:57 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
BlacakaNigh95 wrote:
Beside Link got hit by a Hawk in it did damage to him.
Trackz:Think alot.
If you let the Hawk hit you sure. But I’m sure if you let the weakest enimies in the game hit Ike, they will kill him eventually so....
no because weak attacks dont hurt ike they could all gang up on him and their weapons would do absolutely no damage...if you’d play the game you’d no this
And if you knew anything about Zelda you would know the only weapon that can ultimatly beat Gannon is the master sword. He just has to be stunned, with light spells. Also to point out the Biggoron Sword is stronger than Master Sword and no matter how many times you hit Gannondorf with it, he won’t be beaten until you use the master sword so....
biggorron sword doesn’t equal a blessed weapon while ragnell and alondite are, theyd be able to injure ganondorf, not seal him away but heavily injure him
Yeah. Because Gannon is just going to let them hit him. He could just knock it out of their hands and make a barrier so the swords are not reachable and then Link and Gannon just beat the hell out of them.
..wow so what is stopping black knight from telporting out or knocking the master hand out of link s hand...things like that dont happen in the game so why would they happen in this fight
Actually in OOT it did, and the barrier would prevent anything from going outside it and Link could easily retrieve it. Also why could Zelda use her magic to make it teleport back in the barrier, because she couldn’t.
...and what would zelda have done xcept get hit and again ganondrof has ever hit a weapon away from someone like not to mention ike and black knights weapon prform ranged attacks whcic hare just as strong as their physical ones they would never get close enough
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| | | 08 Feb 2008 10:58 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ganondorf however posses no such blessed weapons making him useless against black knight
Ganon is a sorcerer dude, one of the highest caliber as well. I’m sure he could do something, even if it’s just a simple paralysis spell while Link goes Oni and cuts some heads off.
ganondorf has never preformed a paralysis spell in game....oni link might be able to match ike
He’s a master sorcerer, that comes from Nintendo. He’s capable of teleportation, transformation, and immortality. Paralysis shouldn’t be a problem. And even if you don’t believe that, he’s probably done it in the old cartoon.
thats the thing you cant use feats not preformed in the canon, one of the rules of such a debate or Icould say ike could just summon yune and turn everyone to stone
The Cartoons were made in association with Nintendo of America, it’s pretty cannon.
adaptations to different forms of mdia arent canon, same way dc cartoon series arent canon t othe comics
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| | | 08 Feb 2008 10:58 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 21 Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 2,031 OFFLINE | The Black Knight can’t be harm he can get hit by Earthquake,Lava,Metter it dose not matter it will do no harm also his wonds can heal by it sulf. ---
 | | | 08 Feb 2008 11:00 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Trackz wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
BlacakaNigh95 wrote:
Beside Link got hit by a Hawk in it did damage to him.
Trackz:Think alot.
If you let the Hawk hit you sure. But I’m sure if you let the weakest enimies in the game hit Ike, they will kill him eventually so....
no because weak attacks dont hurt ike they could all gang up on him and their weapons would do absolutely no damage...if you’d play the game you’d no this
And if you knew anything about Zelda you would know the only weapon that can ultimatly beat Gannon is the master sword. He just has to be stunned, with light spells. Also to point out the Biggoron Sword is stronger than Master Sword and no matter how many times you hit Gannondorf with it, he won’t be beaten until you use the master sword so....
biggorron sword doesn’t equal a blessed weapon while ragnell and alondite are, theyd be able to injure ganondorf, not seal him away but heavily injure him
Yeah. Because Gannon is just going to let them hit him. He could just knock it out of their hands and make a barrier so the swords are not reachable and then Link and Gannon just beat the hell out of them.
..wow so what is stopping black knight from telporting out or knocking the master hand out of link s hand...things like that dont happen in the game so why would they happen in this fight
Actually in OOT it did, and the barrier would prevent anything from going outside it and Link could easily retrieve it. Also why could Zelda use her magic to make it teleport back in the barrier, because she couldn’t.
...and what would zelda have done xcept get hit and again ganondrof has ever hit a weapon away from someone like not to mention ike and black knights weapon prform ranged attacks whcic hare just as strong as their physical ones they would never get close enough
Well you still havn’t provided any proof that they could down Gannon. Even the Master Sword couldn’t keep him down forever. Also Gannon could technically possess someone if he wanted to and thats bad for Ike and Black Knight
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