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08 Feb 2008 12:18 pm
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I received an email recently from a drafting firm in India. They’re looking for outsourcing work and feed off the American economy for extremely competitive prices. We’re talking peanuts to the dollar here. Here’s a snapshop of the email I received.



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Here’s the question; do I jump on the bandwagon and become the middle guy taking a 25% + profit and contribute to the problem or do I hold my ground and keep value and quality in our work?
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08 Feb 2008 12:24 pm
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Oh dear that is a problem.....
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08 Feb 2008 12:26 pm
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I think this should have been in the ON-topic section.
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08 Feb 2008 12:32 pm
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Done.
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08 Feb 2008 12:35 pm
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Idk man, thats all up to you. We could sit here and tell you not to/ to do it all day long but in the end its still your choice. I dont think were going to sway your mind on this at all, seeing as most of the people here are very young and know nothing about business. But me personally.... I dont see why it would be a bad idea as long as they are doing quality work.. I mean, your a “coming up” business and you need all the help you can get. Im gunna be in this same spot in a shy 2 years, cuz im going into business also...
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08 Feb 2008 12:37 pm
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Hijacc wrote: Oh dear that is a problem.....


It really is. I’m not just talking about my trade, but all trades in the industry. It takes value out of what our skills are worth and we can’t compete dollar for dollar and make a living.

Take derdev for example, he’s going to college for computer science and code engineering. By the time he gets out there in the real world, all that education will get him a job barley paying a regular wage while he’ll be stuck paying off his college loan. The value of what he’s worth in his trade won’t be much when compared to the guys in India doing the same thing for next to nothing. Be extremely cautious for which field and career path you choose.
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08 Feb 2008 01:47 pm
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Xtrm Liability wrote:
Hijacc wrote: Oh dear that is a problem.....


It really is. I’m not just talking about my trade, but all trades in the industry. It takes value out of what our skills are worth and we can’t compete dollar for dollar and make a living.

Take derdev for example, he’s going to college for computer science and code engineering. By the time he gets out there in the real world, all that education will get him a job barley paying a regular wage while he’ll be stuck paying off his college loan. The value of what he’s worth in his trade won’t be much when compared to the guys in India doing the same thing for next to nothing. Be extremely cautious for which field and career path you choose.
Couple things.

1. Average salary for a computer science degree starting is $75,000

2. My school is acredited as one of the best Computer Science schools in the country.

3. It’s far less risky than say starting my own business which has a 1 in 10 chance of succeeding.

4. I have no student loans as my parents are funding my entire education.

5. I’m actually planning on going into the video gaming industry, so my competition is more from Japan than India.

6. Suck it XTRM.
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08 Feb 2008 03:04 pm
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derdev on jobs wrote:
Xtrm Liability wrote:
Hijacc wrote: Oh dear that is a problem.....


It really is. I’m not just talking about my trade, but all trades in the industry. It takes value out of what our skills are worth and we can’t compete dollar for dollar and make a living.

Take derdev for example, he’s going to college for computer science and code engineering. By the time he gets out there in the real world, all that education will get him a job barley paying a regular wage while he’ll be stuck paying off his college loan. The value of what he’s worth in his trade won’t be much when compared to the guys in India doing the same thing for next to nothing. Be extremely cautious for which field and career path you choose.
Couple things.

1. Average salary for a computer science degree starting is $75,000

2. My school is acredited as one of the best Computer Science schools in the country.

3. It’s far less risky than say starting my own business which has a 1 in 10 chance of succeeding.

4. I have no student loans as my parents are funding my entire education.

5. I’m actually planning on going into the video gaming industry, so my competition is more from Japan than India.

6. Suck it XTRM.



The video game industry? I know a game developer personally and the average salary for game coder in the U.S. is about $30,000 annually if you’re good. I just bid a job for $30,000 and have a schedule of 6 weeks to complete it (probably get it done in 4 weeks). Also, competing with China could actually be worse than India. Soo naive, just wait until you get out there in the real world, my friend.
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08 Feb 2008 03:51 pm
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Xtrm Liability wrote:
derdev on jobs wrote:
Xtrm Liability wrote:
Hijacc wrote: Oh dear that is a problem.....


It really is. I’m not just talking about my trade, but all trades in the industry. It takes value out of what our skills are worth and we can’t compete dollar for dollar and make a living.

Take derdev for example, he’s going to college for computer science and code engineering. By the time he gets out there in the real world, all that education will get him a job barley paying a regular wage while he’ll be stuck paying off his college loan. The value of what he’s worth in his trade won’t be much when compared to the guys in India doing the same thing for next to nothing. Be extremely cautious for which field and career path you choose.
Couple things.

1. Average salary for a computer science degree starting is $75,000

2. My school is acredited as one of the best Computer Science schools in the country.

3. It’s far less risky than say starting my own business which has a 1 in 10 chance of succeeding.

4. I have no student loans as my parents are funding my entire education.

5. I’m actually planning on going into the video gaming industry, so my competition is more from Japan than India.

6. Suck it XTRM.



The video game industry? I know a game developer personally and the average salary for game coder in the U.S. is about $30,000 annually if you’re good. I just bid a job for $30,000 and have a schedule of 6 weeks to complete it (probably get it done in 4 weeks). Also, competing with China could actually be worse than India. Soo naive, just wait until you get out there in the real world, my friend.
Didn’t say the average video gaming salary. I ment average software developement salary, with a high end of $127,000 a year and a low of $45,000 a year.

I understand that it could be worse, again I said Japan, not China. Are you glasses broken?
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09 Feb 2008 07:42 am
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Im from India and what can i say ... but 'LOL'


but no srsly, its the currency difference and also the cost of living gap ... its gonna be like this for a while at least now



amongst other news one of my friend’s outsourcing firm lost out to one in “Lithuania”

so its gonna keep happening until the lowest of rungs like somlia et al reach the european-american level of salaries..


and India isnt all that bad and definitely not as bad as the CHINESE !
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10 Feb 2008 08:09 pm
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HOAX...
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12 Feb 2008 09:10 pm
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lol wut?
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13 Feb 2008 09:43 am
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Forsaken Corpse wrote: lol wut?


ah hes an incoherent slut .. dont mind him ... heh
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