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11 Feb 2008 11:40 am
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Wow that was awesome.
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11 Feb 2008 11:42 am
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Thanks. That was my third attempt at making a good trailer. The first two were kinda bad.
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11 Feb 2008 11:47 am
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Your welcome.Ofcourse for the most part nearly everyone thinks Sephiroth wins without even knowing a thing about Kuja.
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11 Feb 2008 11:48 am
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Manchester Black wrote: Your welcome.Ofcourse for the most part nearly everyone thinks Sephiroth wins without even knowing a thing about Kuja.

Yeah, pretty much. Someone commented on one trailer and said Sephiroth would make Kuja look like dogshit. I basically gave him a little FF9 history lesson.

According to the rpg dueling leugue, Kuja beat Sephiroth.
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11 Feb 2008 11:50 am
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He should.As a matter of fact while Sephiroth is the most popular FF villain he isn’t the strongest.Kuja and Kefka would beat him.
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11 Feb 2008 11:51 am
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LOL all this talking about Kuja has got me playing FFIX again.
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11 Feb 2008 11:53 am
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Manchester Black wrote: He should.As a matter of fact while Sephiroth is the most popular FF villain he isn’t the strongest.Kuja and Kefka would beat him.

Yeah, with their world destroying magic and all. To my knowledge, Ex Death deserves some credit too. He was awsome.

Kefka: was the first to succeed in destroying the world and become a god
Kuja: Is the 2nd to destroy a planet and the first to actually kill the party.

I vote they make a CGI FF6 or 9 movie next. Seeing those characters in CGI would be awsome. But who could voice Kefka and Kuja?
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11 Feb 2008 12:00 pm
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Manchester Black wrote: LOL all this talking about Kuja has got me playing FFIX again.

I thought 9 was one of the best in the series.
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11 Feb 2008 12:00 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Yeah, with their world destroying magic and all. To my knowledge, Ex Death deserves some credit too. He was awsome.

I never really got into FFV so I wouldn’t know.I started to play it but never finished it.

ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Kefka: was the first to succeed in destroying the world and become a god
Kuja: Is the 2nd to destroy a planet and the first to actually kill the party.

And on top of that Kefka started out as a weak secondary villain who made his way to be final boss through intelligence and craftiness.

ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
I vote they make a CGI FF6 or 9 movie next. Seeing those characters in CGI would be awsome. But who could voice Kefka and Kuja?

That would be wonderful.Finding voices would be hard though lol.Maybe they could get a woman to voice Kuja.
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11 Feb 2008 12:01 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
I thought 9 was one of the best in the series.

It really is good and doesn’t get as much respect as it should.
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Manchester Black wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Yeah, with their world destroying magic and all. To my knowledge, Ex Death deserves some credit too. He was awsome.

I never really got into FFV so I wouldn’t know.I started to play it but never finished it.

Well from what I hear, Ex Death is debateable the most powerful FF villian. I mean he does have a one hit kill move.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Kefka: was the first to succeed in destroying the world and become a god
Kuja: Is the 2nd to destroy a planet and the first to actually kill the party.

And on top of that Kefka started out as a weak secondary villain who made his way to be final boss through intelligence and craftiness.

Yes, and thats why Kefka is awsome. Anybody who can outsmart an entire empire and then conquer the world deserves respect. Did you notice the similarity in the scenes between Kefka killing off the king and Kuja killing Garland?
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
I vote they make a CGI FF6 or 9 movie next. Seeing those characters in CGI would be awsome. But who could voice Kefka and Kuja?

That would be wonderful.Finding voices would be hard though lol.Maybe they could get a woman to voice Kuja.

As long as he doesn’t sound like some preppy cheerleader it should be alright.

But yes 9 deserves more credit. People don’t like it I guess because it broke away from the sci-fi thing 7 and 8 had going. But 9 was special because it brought back the old school FF gamer’s memories.

I can tell you which FF game is the next 7. It’s 10. It seems FF10 is growing in popularity...And the creator even said FF10 and 7 are in the same universe, 10 is just like...a prequel.---

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[Quote] #32
17 Mar 2008 03:49 am
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Sephiroth can solo both Cloud and Zidane, Kuja probably can too
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17 Mar 2008 11:51 am
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For all you people who lack knowledge of Sephiroths power and claim Kuja > Sephiroth read this:

AC Sephiroth infected the lifestream, and took over, he had control over it.. lifestream = power source to EVERYTHING on the planet, meaning he can do ANYTHING he wants, EVERYTHING is made up of lifestream, materia, living beings, etc.. Sephiroth CREATED the 3 Silver Haired Men, and used Jenova’s voice to guide them his true speed and power have not yet been scene, but concidering Loz is just a weak remnant of Sephiroth and how fast his speed is, you can guess at how fast Sephiroth truely is, basically AC Sephrioth has the power to do anything he wants, like he said, “He will change the planet into his own vessel and soar the cosmos” meaning he is capable of transforming the entire planet into his own personal ship and raid other planets.

AC Sephiroth is 100% Jenova, he became the new Jenova, he has ALL of her powers, including Super speed, 100% over all J-cells, intageability, super strength, etc

Sephiroth also has extreme willpower/telekinisis, capable of bringing down the to of buildings with a thought, in FFVII he held back Holy with his willpower throughout the game, Holy is so powerful that it is capable of destroying the planet, Sephiroth held that and contained it throughout the FFVII game, imagine what he can do to physical bodies.

Anyway Sephiroths true powers are still to be seen, he has never been shown to exert himself at all, the creators have stated a few times that Sephiroth is the most powerful character in the FFVII world, meaning more powerful then Chaos (who is capable of quaking the planet in a blow),Omega Weiss, and even the goddess Minerva herself

Yes Kuja destroyed the SURFACE of Terra, thats not a big feat considering the protagonists of the game weren’t on the planet, if it was Sephiroth on Terra, he would’ve transformed the entire planet into his ship, and raided other planets, infecting them, and he would’ve became unstoppable.

Sephiroth would either speedblitz Kuja

TK him frozen (his TK is powerful enough to hold back Holy which is capable of destroying the planet) then cut him to shreds

Use the lifestream and disinegrate him
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18 Mar 2008 12:40 pm
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^ They are more evenly match. Cloud and Zidane Die badly.

He should.As a matter of fact while Sephiroth is the most popular FF villain he isn’t the strongest.Kuja and Kefka would beat him.

Well I’d say Kuja and 'Roth are on the same power level, but Kefka would probably win, it’s just Sephiroth’s intangibility lol.
Oh and Ex Death and Ultimecia would rape Sephiroth.
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18 Mar 2008 12:46 pm
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I guess Kuja lol
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18 Mar 2008 01:55 pm
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Sephirot wrote: For all you people who lack knowledge of Sephiroths power and claim Kuja > Sephiroth read this:

AC Sephiroth infected the lifestream, and took over, he had control over it.. lifestream = power source to EVERYTHING on the planet, meaning he can do ANYTHING he wants

Oh he WANTED to die by Cloud’s omni slash huh?

EVERYTHING is made up of lifestream, materia, living beings, etc..

WRONG. Thats just FF7 logic. Not FF9. You fail.

Sephiroth CREATED the 3 Silver Haired Men, and used Jenova’s voice to guide them his true speed and power have not yet been scene

Yeah he was just fucking around so Cloud could whoop his ass.

but concidering Loz is just a weak remnant of Sephiroth and how fast his speed is, you can guess at how fast Sephiroth truely is, basically AC Sephrioth has the power to do anything he wants

Nope. Sorry. Just because he has part of a lifesteam doesn’t do shit for him. Sorry buddy. But again if he could do whatever he wanted then he could have made one trillion of him each with one trillion times as much stats as Cloud. If he can do ANYTHING. Which he can’t.

, like he said, “He will change the planet into his own vessel and soar the cosmos” meaning he is capable of transforming the entire planet into his own personal ship and raid other planets.
Wow...Big deal. Kuja can travel to different diminsions WITHOUT a space ship.


AC Sephiroth is 100% Jenova, he became the new Jenova, he has ALL of her powers, including Super speed, 100% over all J-cells, intageability, super strength, etc

OH so he had all those powers but was a dumbass and didn’t use them...Kuja outsmarts his own creator and the party a few times. He’s going to have a ball with Sephiroth.


Sephiroth also has extreme willpower/telekinisis, capable of bringing down the to of buildings with a thought, in FFVII he held back Holy with his willpower throughout the game, Holy is so powerful that it is capable of destroying the planet, Sephiroth held that and contained it throughout the FFVII game, imagine what he can do to physical bodies.

Kuja’s willpower is very strong. Also Holy just is something that can stop meteor. Meteor damages te planet after a week. Kuja could cause meteors level of destruction in 1 minute easily. Sephiroth ain’t got shit on Kuja.

Anyway Sephiroths true powers are still to be seen, he has never been shown to exert himself at all, the creators have stated a few times that Sephiroth is the most powerful character in the FFVII world, meaning more powerful then Chaos (who is capable of quaking the planet in a blow),Omega Weiss, and even the goddess Minerva herself

Wrong again. Sephiroth WAS exerting himself. He is just not bound by human physics, he doesn’t tire.

Yes Kuja destroyed the SURFACE of Terra, thats not a big feat considering the protagonists of the game weren’t on the planet, if it was Sephiroth on Terra, he would’ve transformed the entire planet into his ship, and raided other planets, infecting them, and he would’ve became unstoppable.

Kuja did more than Sephiroth ever did. Also your forgetting destroying the surface IS destroying the planet. Not every planet destroying attack is DBZ like. Also Sephiroth wouldn’t be able to control Terra because it is not bound by lifestream physics. Wow. Your whole argument has been fail.


Sephiroth would either speedblitz Kuja

Speedblitz him and then activate his Trance, and then Ultima kills Sephiroth.

TK him frozen (his TK is powerful enough to hold back Holy which is capable of destroying the planet) then cut him to shreds

Again, What makes you think Sephiroth can even do that to Kuja? Trance Kuja destroys planets in under a minute. Sephiroth has to wait a week. Kuja would kill Sephiroth before he got the chance anyway, Kuja is way smarter. Sephiroth doesn’t fight like that anyway, and if he gets to do that, then Kuja gets his insta kill Ultima.

Use the lifestream and disinegrate him


Again, the lifestream wouldn’t work. You fail.
Last edited 18 Mar 2008 01:58 pm by The Judicater
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18 Mar 2008 02:17 pm
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I love Sephrioth, but one thing I hate is the balls about Sephiroth playing with Cloud, like Cloud is some pussy. Sephiroth didn’t use other abilities because of his arrogance, that’s why he’s vulnerable to defeat by a lot of people weaker than him (not saying Kuja is weaker).
But all out Sephiroth I still think it can go either way.
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Buster Sword wrote: I love Sephrioth, but one thing I hate is the balls about Sephiroth playing with Cloud, like Cloud is some pussy. Sephiroth didn’t use other abilities because of his arrogance, that’s why he’s vulnerable to defeat by a lot of people weaker than him (not saying Kuja is weaker).
But all out Sephiroth I still think it can go either way.

It all depends on if the lifestream affects Kuja and Zidane. I mean different logic in the games so it’s hard to tell.
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20 Mar 2008 04:33 pm
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It all depends on if the lifestream affects Kuja and Zidane. I mean different logic in the games so it’s hard to tell.

If a portion of it can disintegrate Meteor, it sure as hell can harm Kuja

Remember that Sephiroths willpower TK was able to stop Holys movement for months, Holy has enough destruction to destroy everything on the planet, Kujas Ultima could be stopped just as Holy was.

I can’t think of anything Kuja can do to protect himself against Sephiroths TK
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21 Mar 2008 12:45 pm
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@ Chibi, I think it would be best to allow both of their powers, as technically Kuja would need materia to summon.
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