Kakarrot wrote:
Brolly is weaker than perfect Cell, and Darkseid is strong as Superman, Darkseid will win, althoug Brolly does increase in power as the fights go longer; Gohan SSJ2 is superior than Brolly according with the timeline of the movie.
Broly is NOT weaker than perfect Cell. He is actually much stronger. It took Goku,Gohan, Trunks,Vegetas, AND Piccolo’s energies for him to have enough power to wound Broly and only because he hit him in his weak point and his ONLY weakpoint.
By Movie ten Broly is stronger as he takes on SSJ2 Gohan, yes he is SSJ2 because afterall super saiyans are nothing to him and SSJ Gohan is defently not stronger than SSJ Goku, Teen self, Trunks, Vegeta and piccolo. So yes, Gohan was SSJ2 by that time, unless your telling me Broly got weaker from a near death expirence.
Invaderzym wrote:
Did you listen to me? Broly one shotted a galaxy in his second weakest form. At minimum power (in lssj) his power streached across more than two galaxies. He has unlimited energy that grows all the time. He took a kamehameha point blank and didn’t harm him in the least. His attacks go way faster than light
From what I saw(I never watched the hole Brolly movie)we just saw the galaxy go.We didn’t see what form Brolly was in or anything.The power strecthing across two galaxies thing where did you get that?The unlimited power is a no limits fallancy.Its like how Superman gets power from the sun but Darkseid has pwned him before.
Invaderzym wrote:
Did you listen to me? Broly one shotted a galaxy in his second weakest form. At minimum power (in lssj) his power streached across more than two galaxies. He has unlimited energy that grows all the time. He took a kamehameha point blank and didn’t harm him in the least. His attacks go way faster than light
From what I saw(I never watched the hole Brolly movie)we just saw the galaxy go.We didn’t see what form Brolly was in or anything.The power strecthing across two galaxies thing where did you get that?The unlimited power is a no limits fallancy.Its like how Superman gets power from the sun but Darkseid has pwned him before.
Broly indeed had to have been at most in a restricted ssj because in LSSJ he would be uncontrolable, and we only saw him go RSSJ when he was mad about Goku, so he may indeed have only been in base form. But I say he was in RSSJ but thats my oppinion. He could not have been full powered however.
Manchester Black wrote:
From what I saw(I never watched the hole Brolly movie)we just saw the galaxy go.We didn’t see what form Brolly was in or anything.The power strecthing across two galaxies thing where did you get that?The unlimited power is a no limits fallancy.Its like how Superman gets power from the sun but Darkseid has pwned him before.
It says “The south galaxy has been destroyed by a super saiyan” We know he didn’t go lssj for the first time until half way in the movie. The only other option is his base form which would actually HELP my argument. As for the two galaxies. Broly was in one of the last planets in the south galaxy... or former south galaxy. Piccolo stated he felt his power all the way from the north galaxy. So it stretches across two galaxies. Keep in mind his power was at minimum when Piccolo felt it.
And the difference between Broly and superman is superman needs the sun AND his power stops growing after a time. Take superman away from a yellow sun and he will eventually lose all his powers.
Broly on the otherhand gets his power from himself. Put him anywhere you want and he will still have his power. Also his power continues to grow all the time.
Manchester Black wrote:
From what I saw(I never watched the hole Brolly movie)we just saw the galaxy go.We didn’t see what form Brolly was in or anything.The power strecthing across two galaxies thing where did you get that?The unlimited power is a no limits fallancy.Its like how Superman gets power from the sun but Darkseid has pwned him before.
It says “The south galaxy has been destroyed by a super saiyan” We know he didn’t go lssj for the first time until half way in the movie. The only other option is his base form which would actually HELP my argument. As for the two galaxies. Broly was in one of the last planets in the south galaxy... or former south galaxy. Piccolo stated he felt his power all the way from the north galaxy. So it stretches across two galaxies. Keep in mind his power was at minimum when Piccolo felt it.
And the difference between Broly and superman is superman needs the sun AND his power stops growing after a time. Take superman away from a yellow sun and he will eventually lose all his powers.
Broly on the otherhand gets his power from himself. Put him anywhere you want and he will still have his power. Also his power continues to grow all the time.
And no upper limit has been showed, like the Hulk. Which he is basically DBZs answer for the Hulk.
Invaderzym wrote:
It says “The south galaxy has been destroyed by a super saiyan” We know he didn’t go lssj for the first time until half way in the movie. The only other option is his base form which would actually HELP my argument. As for the two galaxies. Broly was in one of the last planets in the south galaxy... or former south galaxy. Piccolo stated he felt his power all the way from the north galaxy. So it stretches across two galaxies. Keep in mind his power was at minimum when Piccolo felt it.
Thats good and all but what people fail to realize is you can feel a persons power all you want how does it help them?They could feel Gokus power in other world but couldn’t feel Buus and we saw how that fight was going.
Invaderzym wrote:
And the difference between Broly and superman is superman needs the sun AND his power stops growing after a time. Take superman away from a yellow sun and he will eventually lose all his powers.
Simply not true.Supes power does not stop growing after time.Have you seen what Supes is capable of after a sundip for only an hour?
Invaderzym wrote:
Broly on the otherhand gets his power from himself. Put him anywhere you want and he will still have his power. Also his power continues to grow all the time.
It will stop growing when he fights DS since his atoms are going to get scattered across the universe.
Manchester Black wrote:
Thats good and all but what people fail to realize is you can feel a persons power all you want how does it help them?They could feel Gokus power in other world but couldn’t feel Buus and we saw how that fight was going.
Wait what? ssj3 Goku was stronger than buu
Manchester Black wrote:
[Simply not true.Supes power does not stop growing after time.Have you seen what Supes is capable of after a sundip for only an hour?
Whatever. My point still stands if you take him away from a yellow sun he will eventually lose his powers
Manchester Black wrote:
It will stop growing when he fights DS since his atoms are going to get scattered across the universe.
Manchester Black wrote:
Thats good and all but what people fail to realize is you can feel a persons power all you want how does it help them?They could feel Gokus power in other world but couldn’t feel Buus and we saw how that fight was going.
Wait what? ssj3 Goku was stronger than buu
That must be why it was an even fight and Goku said “I’ll need to go all out if I’ll even have a chance” Yeah...he must be stronger since he will have a chance when going all out.
Manchester Black wrote:
[Simply not true.Supes power does not stop growing after time.Have you seen what Supes is capable of after a sundip for only an hour?
Whatever. My point still stands if you take him away from a yellow sun he will eventually lose his powers
Eventually...
Manchester Black wrote:
It will stop growing when he fights DS since his atoms are going to get scattered across the universe.
Invaderzym wrote:
Wait what? ssj3 Goku was stronger than buu
SSJ3 was weaker than Super Buu.No one could said anything about feeling Super Buus energy yet he was stronger.
Invaderzym wrote:
Whatever. My point still stands if you take him away from a yellow sun he will eventually lose his powers
Also not true.Supes has reserves and he manages the way he uses his power.
Invaderzym wrote:
To bad that won’t happen since DS will be dead
More like Brolly punches DS and DS is wondering why this guy is attacking him.Then when Brolly charges a ki blast he is hit with the omega effect and dies.
Kakarrot wrote:
Brolly is weaker than perfect Cell, and Darkseid is strong as Superman, Darkseid will win, althoug Brolly does increase in power as the fights go longer; Gohan SSJ2 is superior than Brolly according with the timeline of the movie.
Broly is NOT weaker than perfect Cell. He is actually much stronger. It took Goku,Gohan, Trunks,Vegetas, AND Piccolo’s energies for him to have enough power to wound Broly and only because he hit him in his weak point and his ONLY weakpoint.
By Movie ten Broly is stronger as he takes on SSJ2 Gohan, yes he is SSJ2 because afterall super saiyans are nothing to him and SSJ Gohan is defently not stronger than SSJ Goku, Teen self, Trunks, Vegeta and piccolo. So yes, Gohan was SSJ2 by that time, unless your telling me Broly got weaker from a near death expirence.
The SSJ Vegeta trunks and Goku and Gohan in the movie are the weakest SSJ version of then, in the next movie he battle Gohan teenage who never goes SSJ 2 and is weaker that when he fought Cell.
There is a reason, Brolly movies were made before Toriyama put Goku and Gohan, Trunks and Vegeta in the room of spirit and time.
For that my conclusionis that SSJ 2 is superior to brolly, but one is canon and the other dont fit in the canon historyline.
Kakarrot wrote:
Brolly is weaker than perfect Cell, and Darkseid is strong as Superman, Darkseid will win, althoug Brolly does increase in power as the fights go longer; Gohan SSJ2 is superior than Brolly according with the timeline of the movie.
Broly is NOT weaker than perfect Cell. He is actually much stronger. It took Goku,Gohan, Trunks,Vegetas, AND Piccolo’s energies for him to have enough power to wound Broly and only because he hit him in his weak point and his ONLY weakpoint.
By Movie ten Broly is stronger as he takes on SSJ2 Gohan, yes he is SSJ2 because afterall super saiyans are nothing to him and SSJ Gohan is defently not stronger than SSJ Goku, Teen self, Trunks, Vegeta and piccolo. So yes, Gohan was SSJ2 by that time, unless your telling me Broly got weaker from a near death expirence.
The SSJ Vegeta trunks and Goku and Gohan in the movie are the weakest SSJ version of then, in the next movie he battle Gohan teenage who never goes SSJ 2 and is weaker that when he fought Cell.
There is a reason, Brolly movies were made before Toriyama put Goku and Gohan, Trunks and Vegeta in the room of spirit and time.
For that my conclusionis that SSJ 2 is superior to brolly, but one is canon and the other dont fit in the canon historyline.
Dude it obviously is AFTER Time chamber, Gohan becomes SSJ then remember? It is actually between the ten days before Cell games, with the plot hole being Goku and Gohan not being SSJs. Trunks and Vegeta were in USSJ too, at least Trunks was. IT has loopholes obviously.
Darkseid is stronger than Superman a guy who moves planets,he has no problem with being who go ftl,he can take blows from Superman and is more durable than him,his omega effect one shotted a galaxy and is a one hit kill on all except for Superman and Wonderwoman.Darkseid wins.
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Broly destroying an entire galaxy as a super saiyan
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Broly getting kicked by ussj Vegeta and not moving an inch
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Broly destroying a planet with no effort at all
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Broly effortlessly dodging Super saiyan Goku and Piccolo’s attacks. Both who are arguably caple of moving lightspeed
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Broly getting hit with a pointblank full power kamehameha and smiling after it. Keep in mind you only need 18,000 to destroy a planet. At this point in time Goku’s powerlevel is far beyond 150mill meaning Broly got hit with enough energy to destroy a planet more than 8000 times over
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Broly’s body getting blown up from the inside out. He later gets hit by a comet but still survives!
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Remember that all powerful ssj2? This is what Broly think of ssj2
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The south galaxy has been shattered by a super saiyan and brolly do not breath in space and he also move from one galaxy to another in blink of an eyes... actually Kai said now he move to our galaxy...
and then he talk with goku about that...
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Invaderzym wrote:
Ok, let me educate you people on Broly
Broly destroying an entire galaxy as a super saiyan
Broly getting kicked by ussj Vegeta and not moving an inch
Broly destroying a planet with no effort at all
Broly effortlessly dodging Super saiyan Goku and Piccolo’s attacks. Both who are arguably caple of moving lightspeed
Broly getting hit with a pointblank full power kamehameha and smiling after it. Keep in mind you only need 18,000 to destroy a planet. At this point in time Goku’s powerlevel is far beyond 150mill meaning Broly got hit with enough energy to destroy a planet more than 8000 times over
Broly’s body getting blown up from the inside out. He later gets hit by a comet but still survives!
Remember that all powerful ssj2? This is what Broly think of ssj2