Invaderzym wrote:
Ok, let me educate you people on Broly
Let me educate you on Darkseid.
Invaderzym wrote:
Broly destroying an entire galaxy as a super saiyan
Perfect DS can destroy a galaxy and he can kill people in one hit.As a matter of fact
Thats DS destroying a Daxamite.They are as strong as Pre-Crisis Superman
Invaderzym wrote:
Broly getting kicked by ussj Vegeta and not moving an inch
Superman can move planets yet when he punches him he doesn’t move
Invaderzym wrote:
Broly destroying a planet with no effort at all
Darkseids and Supermans fight with them using only their physical blows resulting in the destruction of a planet.Also what do you notice in these scans?
Darkseid is weakened while Superman isn’t yet he still has enough power to take a punch from him and then pwn him.
Invaderzym wrote:
Broly effortlessly dodging Super saiyan Goku and Piccolo’s attacks. Both who are arguably caple of moving lightspeed
First no in DBZ is lightspeed.Second
This is Superman carrying someone while outrunning an explosion at Darkseid.Despite his speed Darkseid disappeared from his sight.
Invaderzym wrote:
Broly getting hit with a pointblank full power kamehameha and smiling after it. Keep in mind you only need 18,000 to destroy a planet. At this point in time Goku’s powerlevel is far beyond 150mill meaning Broly got hit with enough energy to destroy a planet more than 8000 times over
Except powerlevels stopped being giving so you saying its 150 mil is pure speculation.
Invaderzym wrote:
Broly’s body getting blown up from the inside out. He later gets hit by a comet but still survives!
Yes and Darkseid was flown to the end of the universe.Guess what he survived.
Invaderzym wrote:
Remember that all powerful ssj2? This is what Broly think of ssj2
Broly wins this. Any questions?
Here is Yuga Khan, who M’onel (a being who’s confronted Superman, Mordru, Lobo, etc.) said was, by far, the most powerful being he ever encountered, and who was said to be able to end civilizations with an eye blink, plus cut off all New Gods from The Source, easily bested New Genesis' armies, and absorbed the life energy of entire planets to get back up to full power after his release from The Source Wall, in a conversation with Highfather. He is Darkseid’s father. When Highfather states how someone will find him and kill him for his attempts at breaching The Source Wall, before he was trapped, he states that no being in existence, save his own son, has power even remotely approaching his own, and adds that sons can never kill their fathers, implying that Darkseid actually has the raw power neccessary to kill Yuga Khan, if you remove the father/son clause:
If you think SSJ2 is stronger than Yuga Khan you need help.Oh and Darkseid wins.
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Invaderzym wrote:
Did you listen to me? Broly one shotted a galaxy in his second weakest form. At minimum power (in lssj) his power streached across more than two galaxies. He has unlimited energy that grows all the time. He took a kamehameha point blank and didn’t harm him in the least. His attacks go way faster than light
From what I saw(I never watched the hole Brolly movie)we just saw the galaxy go.We didn’t see what form Brolly was in or anything.The power strecthing across two galaxies thing where did you get that?The unlimited power is a no limits fallancy.Its like how Superman gets power from the sun but Darkseid has pwned him before.
Manchester Black wrote:
Perfect DS can destroy a galaxy and he can kill people in one hit.As a matter of fact [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/p6a9d963c9bf1d453cc02e8f39e19024d/f9db7939.jpg[/img]
Thats DS destroying a Daxamite.They are as strong as Pre-Crisis Superman
Proof they’re as strong as pre-crisis? And big deal he destroyed a galaxy. That means he’s just as strong as Rssj Broly which is Super saiyan Broly not at full power
Manchester Black wrote:
Superman can move planets yet when he punches him he doesn’t move
Vegeta can blow up planets but Broly isn’t effected when Vegeta blasts him with his big bang attack.
Manchester Black wrote:
Darkseids and Supermans fight with them using only their physical blows resulting in the destruction of a planet.Also what do you notice in these scans?
Darkseid is weakened while Superman isn’t yet he still has enough power to take a punch from him and then pwn him.
Broly was blown up, hit by a comet, and frozen for 7 years but still pwned ssj2 Gohan
Manchester Black wrote:
First no in DBZ is lightspeed.Second [img]http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Precrisis/supermanlightspeed.jpg[/img]
This is Superman carrying someone while outrunning an explosion at Darkseid.Despite his speed Darkseid disappeared from his sight.
No one in DBZ is light speed? Raditz disagrees with you. He dodged a lightspeed attack.
Manchester Black wrote:
Except powerlevels stopped being giving so you saying its 150 mil is pure speculation.
Only daiz are official. But even if you want to act like a fanboy and say they aren’t you can’t deny this
2nd form Freeza had a powerlevel of 1mill. Goku was stronger than 3rd form Freeza but slightly weaker than final form. So with 2 transformations let’s estimate he has a powerlevel of 3mill (even though that is really low all things considered.) and let’s give Goku 2mill powerlevel. Goku used kaioken 20x against final form Freeza. 20x 2mill = 40mill. Finally Goku goes ssj and is stronger than Freeza’s 100% form so ssj is more than double kaioken times 20, but let’s just say it’s exactly double. Which means ssj Goku, namek saga, who isn’t at 100% has a powelevel of 80mill. Divide that by 18k and foolishly assume Goku is just as strong as he was on namek when he fought Broly, without a doubt Broly go with with enough energy to destroy a planet 44444 time over
Manchester Black wrote:
Yes and Darkseid was flown to the end of the universe.Guess what he survived.
How does flying prove how though you are?
Manchester Black wrote:
Here is Yuga Khan, who M’onel (a being who’s confronted Superman, Mordru, Lobo, etc.) said was, by far, the most powerful being he ever encountered, and who was said to be able to end civilizations with an eye blink, plus cut off all New Gods from The Source, easily bested New Genesis' armies, and absorbed the life energy of entire planets to get back up to full power after his release from The Source Wall, in a conversation with Highfather. He is Darkseid’s father. When Highfather states how someone will find him and kill him for his attempts at breaching The Source Wall, before he was trapped, he states that no being in existence, save his own son, has power even remotely approaching his own, and adds that sons can never kill their fathers, implying that Darkseid actually has the raw power neccessary to kill Yuga Khan, if you remove the father/son clause:
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/p01f2af13c056f5aa084b426e3d20d88e/f9d58829.jpg[/img]
If you think SSJ2 is stronger than Yuga Khan you need help.Oh and Darkseid wins.
Sure it was stated he was stronger and that no being in existence, save his own son, has power even remotely approaching his own, but do you have any proof to back it up? I find it funny you deny everything I say when I say it was “stated” but you go ahead and do it. lol the things fanboys do
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
The south galaxy has been shattered by a super saiyan and brolly do not breath in space and he also move from one galaxy to another in blink of an eyes... actually Kai said now he move to our galaxy...
and then he talk with goku about that...
Actually Broly can survive in space. He is without a doubt in the middle of space
Buster Sword wrote:
Avoiding a lightspeed attack does not mean you move at light speed, and when is that attack lightspeed?, just some proof plox
Uh, what the hell are you talking about? If Raditz could move at light speed how could he dodge the attack? Also I know it was lightspeed cause Piccolo’s energy attack went from the ground to the moon instantly that’s light speed
It’s called a reflex, dodging bullets do not mean you can run as fast as it, same as lightspeed attacks, I’m sure as hell you can dodge a 100m runner EASILY, so does that mean you can run 100m in under 10 seconds? When you say instantly, how instantly?
Buster Sword wrote:
It’s called a reflex, dodging bullets do not mean you can run as fast as it, same as lightspeed attacks, I’m sure as hell you can dodge a 100m runner EASILY, so does that mean you can run 100m in under 10 seconds? When you say instantly, how instantly?
Raditz MOVED out of the way so he can MOVE lightspeed.
Invaderzym wrote:
Proof they’re as strong as pre-crisis? And big deal he destroyed a galaxy. That means he’s just as strong as Rssj Broly which is Super saiyan Broly not at full power
Daxamites are stronger than Kryptonians.Everyone knows that.Also he destroyed the galaxy in one sht and while holding back.Theres also the fact his assistant is able to destroy one so...
Invaderzym wrote:
Vegeta can blow up planets but Broly isn’t effected when Vegeta blasts him with his big bang attack.
Red herring.You said earlier USSJ Vegeta kicked him and he wasn’t affected.When I brought up Supes planet destroying blows you brought up Vegetas blasts.Anyway Supes heat vision can slice a planet in half and it doesn’t hurt DS.
Invaderzym wrote:
Broly was blown up, hit by a comet, and frozen for 7 years but still pwned ssj2 Gohan
Okay and?Gohan hadn’t been training for those seven years and Saiyans get stronger after every fight.Darkseid had just used his power to take out Imperiex and still was able to beat Supes.
Invaderzym wrote:
No one in DBZ is light speed? Raditz disagrees with you. He dodged a lightspeed attack.
Yeah the attack was said to be light speed, in the English dub.No such line was in the japanese manga or anime.
Invaderzym wrote:
Only daiz are official. But even if you want to act like a fanboy and say they aren’t you can’t deny this
No ones acting like a fanboy.If they aren’t canon they aren’t.
Invaderzym wrote:
2nd form Freeza had a powerlevel of 1mill. Goku was stronger than 3rd form Freeza but slightly weaker than final form. So with 2 transformations let’s estimate he has a powerlevel of 3mill (even though that is really low all things considered.) and let’s give Goku 2mill powerlevel. Goku used kaioken 20x against final form Freeza. 20x 2mill = 40mill.
Okay now you just have to prove thats how Kaioken works when he powers up.
Invaderzym wrote:
Finally Goku goes ssj and is stronger than Freeza’s 100% form so ssj is more than double kaioken times 20, but let’s just say it’s exactly double. Which means ssj Goku, namek saga, who isn’t at 100% has a powelevel of 80mill. Divide that by 18k and foolishly assume Goku is just as strong as he was on namek when he fought Broly, without a doubt Broly go with with enough energy to destroy a planet 44444 time over
I lost what you were trying to say about halfway through...
Invaderzym wrote:
How does flying prove how though you are?
Did you miss to the ends of the universe?
Invaderzym wrote:
Sure it was stated he was stronger and that no being in existence, save his own son, has power even remotely approaching his own, but do you have any proof to back it up? I find it funny you deny everything I say when I say it was “stated” but you go ahead and do it. lol the things fanboys do
Yes considering he owned all the New Gods yeah its speculation.The fact that he took over the Source wall which is an aspect of the Presence.Darkseid would have been able to kill him if it wasn’t for the Father/son thing.Also you=fail since all your comments from pure fanboyism.
Invaderzym wrote:
Uh, what the hell are you talking about? If Raditz could move at light speed how could he dodge the attack? Also I know it was lightspeed cause Piccolo’s energy attack went from the ground to the moon instantly that’s light speed
Thanos dodged the Silver Surfer when he was flying at speeds so fast it was lightyears.I guess Thanos can move at lightyear speed.
Manchester Black wrote:
Daxamites are stronger than Kryptonians.Everyone knows that.Also he destroyed the galaxy in one sht and while holding back.Theres also the fact his assistant is able to destroy one so...
Can you show me him destroying the galaxy? Don’t forget Broly was holding back too
Manchester Black wrote:
Red herring.You said earlier USSJ Vegeta kicked him and he wasn’t affected.When I brought up Supes planet destroying blows you brought up Vegetas blasts.Anyway Supes heat vision can slice a planet in half and it doesn’t hurt DS.
Ok so? ussj Vegeta is stronger than ssj Goku who has the power to destroy a planet 1000 times over
Manchester Black wrote:
Okay and?Gohan hadn’t been training for those seven years and Saiyans get stronger after every fight.Darkseid had just used his power to take out Imperiex and still was able to beat Supes.
Not true. Gohan stated himself he got stronger. Givin the placement of the movie he got a zenkai from getting blown away from buu and trained with the Z sword for a decent amount of time
Manchester Black wrote:
Yeah the attack was said to be light speed, in the English dub.No such line was in the japanese manga or anime.
You’re missing the point. The attack blew up the moon instantly. It’s going faster than light.
Manchester Black wrote:
No ones acting like a fanboy.If they aren’t canon they aren’t.
We aren’t talking canon anymore since this is is a non-canon character
Manchester Black wrote:
Okay now you just have to prove thats how Kaioken works when he powers up.
You’re kidding right? King kai stated that. Go watch Goku’s training again.
Manchester Black wrote:
I lost what you were trying to say about halfway through...
Then read again carefully
Manchester Black wrote:
Did you miss to the ends of the universe?
Ok. So? Gotenks flew around the world several times in a few seconds...How does that prove how though someone is
Manchester Black wrote:
Yes considering he owned all the New Gods yeah its speculation.The fact that he took over the Source wall which is an aspect of the Presence.Darkseid would have been able to kill him if it wasn’t for the Father/son thing.Also you=fail since all your comments from pure fanboyism.
It’s not fanboyism. I’m trying to prove a point. The author as to say somethings since they can’t come up with feats at the moment to PROVE it. Superman prime took a blast that could destroy the universe, but did the blast destroy the universe? Do you get what I’m saying?
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