#101 20 Feb 2008 04:55 pm |
Buster Sword Guest | ^ Don’t assume dude, I’m not saying Cloud is a match for DBZ.
And actually I said dodging lightning doesn’t mean you are as fast as it, get me? | | | #102 20 Feb 2008 10:50 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 13  Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,664 OFFLINE | Buster Sword wrote:
1.didnt read the word “example”
2.if im a runner yes i can do that in just 10sec.
but you couldnt dodge that in just a sec if that is just a sec.
Why create another example when I already used one.
Are you fucking stupid, you can run the 100m in under 10 seconds? Why aren’t you an athlete then? You don’t know how ludicrus you sound.
Yes, you CAN dodge a 100m runner if he was 10m away, as it would take 1sec to run 10m.
his movement at that time was faster than goku... he can catch bullet which goku at child can do that...
Omfg catching bullets do not equate to being luminal.
Oh and when did I say WW could beat Broly, Itachi, I smell bullshit.
1.dint see the “IF”
2.if he is m/10sec,you can dodge him but if that is m/sec no. ---
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The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,520 OFFLINE | ..I really dont think you know how strong wonder woman is
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So you saying WW can beat Brolly...??? ---

“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | #104 21 Feb 2008 02:12 am |
Invaderzym Guest | Manchester Black wrote:
Sure but you should keep in mind that Mantis is nowhere near Darkseids power.
I’ll keep that in mind if there’s ever a Mantis vs Broly topic
Manchester Black wrote:
No I want to know where you got your proof from.
What are you talking about? I got my proof from watching DBZ. You’re just trolling now
Ussj Vegeta beat the shit out of semi-perfect cell. Semi perfect cell overpowered android 18 with ease. The same android 18 beat the shit out of ssj Vegeta and even broke his arm. The same ssj Vegeta who was stated by Piccolo and himself to be stronger than ssj Goku who was stronger than his namek self cause he trained for 3 years. The same namek self that was stronger than 100% final form Freeza who was stronger than final form Freeza, who was stronger than 3rd form Freeza who was stronger than 2nd form Freeza.
There proof enough for you?
Manchester Black wrote:
They also were fighting Buu at the time among other things so...
Most DBZ movies (except for 9, 13, and possibly 5) can’t be placed in the normal timelines. They are alternate universes where certain events took places differently. Movie 10 is what if Goku killed majin buu when he had the chance. If that happen Videl would know about the dragon balls, Goten would know Goku, Goku would still be dead, as would Vegeta (which would explain why he doesn’t show up to help) and Goten would have gotten a zenkai and some training in with the Z-sword
Manchester Black wrote:
Lets get some solid proof of the amount of time. Darkseid can react in spans of a microsecond so even if it is true it isn’t greater than Darkseid.
Fine, download and watch episode 27 and 28 of Dragon ball. That’s when master rohie blew up the moon. You can count the seconds for yourself. Also that “microseconds away from doom” seems to be in the same category as Goku “training to be faster than lightning” which you called an expression or an exaduration. How about some solid proof of time?
Manchester Black wrote:
Which means I get to use non-canon.So Darkseid gets the antilife equation.
Wow...the antilife equation...what do you think about that Broly?
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/zymemaru/DBZ/BrolyLauging.gif
Manchester Black wrote:
It was.
Well atleast you know now the shadow dragons can destroy the universe
Manchester Black wrote:
The fact that he was flown to the ends of the universe by Superman is enough.
NO IT ISN’T! This is what you’re not telling me. HOW DOES THIS PROVE HOW TOUGH HE IS?
Manchester Black wrote:
Its clear Vegeta could have destroyed earth but Cell destroying the solar system?
It’s in the EXACT same category and Vegeta stating he can blow up the Earth. | | #105 21 Feb 2008 02:25 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 13  Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,664 OFFLINE | @,Invaderzym,joint here.
about roshi,do you have gif animation or any links of this video? ---
__  | | #106 21 Feb 2008 02:31 am |
Invaderzym Guest | seed wrote:
@,Invaderzym,joint here.
about roshi,do you have gif animation or any links of this video?
Watch it here
http://videodragonball.blogspot.com/
or download it here
http://dbz-media.nl/en/main.php?page=specials | | #107 21 Feb 2008 02:45 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 13  Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,664 OFFLINE | Invaderzym wrote:
seed wrote:
@,Invaderzym,joint here.
about roshi,do you have gif animation or any links of this video?
Watch it here
http://videodragonball.blogspot.com/
or download it here
http://dbz-media.nl/en/main.php?page=specials
tnxx.. ---
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The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,520 OFFLINE | Brolly cant win againts WW... Brolly even cant win againts Captain America... since the vote said so... ---

“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | #109 21 Feb 2008 11:37 am |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,615 OFFLINE | Invaderzym wrote:
I’ll keep that in mind if there’s ever a Mantis vs Broly topic
Yes and considering the fact that Mantis isn’t even in Darkseids calibur...
Invaderzym wrote:
What are you talking about? I got my proof from watching DBZ. You’re just trolling now
I’m not trolling I’m just asking for solid proof.Later on Buu who is much stronger destroys earth only 100(10?) times over.
Invaderzym wrote:
Ussj Vegeta beat the shit out of semi-perfect cell. Semi perfect cell overpowered android 18 with ease. The same android 18 beat the shit out of ssj Vegeta and even broke his arm. The same ssj Vegeta who was stated by Piccolo and himself to be stronger than ssj Goku who was stronger than his namek self cause he trained for 3 years. The same namek self that was stronger than 100% final form Freeza who was stronger than final form Freeza, who was stronger than 3rd form Freeza who was stronger than 2nd form Freeza.
There proof enough for you?
It would be accepted if it wasn’t for the thing I mentioned above...
Invaderzym wrote:
Most DBZ movies (except for 9, 13, and possibly 5) can’t be placed in the normal timelines. They are alternate universes where certain events took places differently. Movie 10 is what if Goku killed majin buu when he had the chance. If that happen Videl would know about the dragon balls, Goten would know Goku, Goku would still be dead, as would Vegeta (which would explain why he doesn’t show up to help) and Goten would have gotten a zenkai and some training in with the Z-sword
I forget why this matters again?
Invaderzym wrote:
Fine, download and watch episode 27 and 28 of Dragon ball. That’s when master rohie blew up the moon. You can count the seconds for yourself. Also that “microseconds away from doom” seems to be in the same category as Goku “training to be faster than lightning” which you called an expression or an exaduration. How about some solid proof of time?
The fact that if DS really hadn’t reacted they would have died.Sure thing I’d also like to mention that if we go by anime they take forever to get to places.
Invaderzym wrote:
Wow...the antilife equation...what do you think about that Broly?
[img]
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/zymemaru/DBZ/BrolyLauging.gif[/img]
Right after he laughs he starts to cry when he realizes he has no chance.Here http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t466345.htmlEducate yourself on the Anti-Life Equation.
Invaderzym wrote:
Well atleast you know now the shadow dragons can destroy the universe
Uh no.
Invaderzym wrote:
NO IT ISN’T! This is what you’re not telling me. HOW DOES THIS PROVE HOW TOUGH HE IS?
Superman was pissed off,had been near the sun,and while he was moving him to the ends was constantly wailing on him.
Invaderzym wrote:
It’s in the EXACT same category and Vegeta stating he can blow up the Earth.
Not when guys shown that are much more powerful than him don’t show solar system destroying power. ---
 | | #110 21 Feb 2008 01:12 pm |
Buster Sword Guest | 1.dint see the “IF”
2.if he is m/10sec,you can dodge him but if that is m/sec no.
Anybody can run, the important variable is how fast.
What the hell are you saying? A 100m runner can run 10/second. You’ve used m/s twice now, how does this make sense? | | #111 21 Feb 2008 03:10 pm |
Invaderzym Guest | Manchester Black wrote:
Yes and considering the fact that Mantis isn’t even in Darkseids calibur...
That’s nice, but we’re talking about Darkseid
Manchester Black wrote:
I’m not trolling I’m just asking for solid proof.Later on Buu who is much stronger destroys earth only 100(10?) times over.
It was 10, but as we discussed before even first form Freeza could destroy a planet 10 times over since you need 18k and he had 530,000.
Manchester Black wrote:
It would be accepted if it wasn’t for the thing I mentioned above...
See above
Manchester Black wrote:
I forget why this matters again?
You were trying to tell me Gohan didn’t get stronger via the ways I mentioned cause you didn’t think the placement of the movie allowed it
Manchester Black wrote:
The fact that if DS really hadn’t reacted they would have died.Sure thing I’d also like to mention that if we go by anime they take forever to get to places.
Sure he would have died, but how do I know he reacted in a microsecond. Also what are you talking about taking forever to get to places
Manchester Black wrote:
Right after he laughs he starts to cry when he realizes he has no chance.Here [url]http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t466345.html[/url]Educate yourself on the Anti-Life Equation.
Darkseid would be dead before he got the chance
Manchester Black wrote:
Uh no.
So you didn’t watch DBGT
Manchester Black wrote:
Superman was pissed off,had been near the sun,and while he was moving him to the ends was constantly wailing on him.
Ok so he was taking a beating for a while. That doesn’t show me he can take a blast that can destroy a galaxy
Manchester Black wrote:
Not when guys shown that are much more powerful than him don’t show solar system destroying power.
Buu destroyed the Earth 10times over and that wasn’t even his full power. It didn’t destroy the solar system cause I think the solar system is a little more than 10 times the size of Earth <_< | | #112 21 Feb 2008 03:24 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,615 OFFLINE | Invaderzym wrote:
That’s nice, but we’re talking about Darkseid
The fact that Mantis can blow up a galaxy and shot Darkseid with his galaxy destroying blast yet it didn’t harm DS and he was still weaker than DS doesn’t help?
Invaderzym wrote:
It was 10, but as we discussed before even first form Freeza could destroy a planet 10 times over since you need 18k and he had 530,000.
I believe a different number was stated.
Invaderzym wrote:
You were trying to tell me Gohan didn’t get stronger via the ways I mentioned cause you didn’t think the placement of the movie allowed it
If it takes place in an alternate reality then he didn’t.
Invaderzym wrote:
Sure he would have died, but how do I know he reacted in a microsecond. Also what are you talking about taking forever to get to places
How it took Goten and Trunks forever to get to Vegeta,how it took Goku forever to get to Vegeta and Friezas fight,alot of other things.
Invaderzym wrote:
Darkseid would be dead before he got the chance
Did you even read the thread?
Invaderzym wrote:
So you didn’t watch DBGT
I should have made it clear all I did was go to the episode when they were fighting Omega and skipped around.I basically was going to prove Omega was full powered.
Invaderzym wrote:
Ok so he was taking a beating for a while. That doesn’t show me he can take a blast that can destroy a galaxy
Look above.
Invaderzym wrote:
Buu destroyed the Earth 10times over and that wasn’t even his full power. It didn’t destroy the solar system cause I think the solar system is a little more than 10 times the size of Earth <_<
Prove it wasn’t Buus full power.Buu was a pschyo and if he could have one shotted the solar system it would have happened.
EDIT
Just thought about it.Since were using non-canon this is rape of epic proportions Pre-Crisis Darkseid+Anti-Life Equation+Agony Matrix=dead Brolly. ---
 Last edited 21 Feb 2008 03:29 pm by Manchester Black | | #113 21 Feb 2008 03:45 pm |
Invaderzym Guest | Manchester Black wrote:
The fact that Mantis can blow up a galaxy and shot Darkseid with his galaxy destroying blast yet it didn’t harm DS and he was still weaker than DS doesn’t help?
I’m still waiting for the scan of DS destroying a galaxy. You might want to throw this feat in as well if you want me to believe it
Manchester Black wrote:
I believe a different number was stated.
Whatever, it more more than 10 times 18k, we know tht for sure
Manchester Black wrote:
If it takes place in an alternate reality then he didn’t.
Yes he did. He even stated himself he got stronger
Manchester Black wrote:
How it took Goten and Trunks forever to get to Vegeta,how it took Goku forever to get to Vegeta and Friezas fight,alot of other things.
Goten and Trunks didn’t really take majin buu seriously until they saw Vegeta getting beat down by him. Before that they took their time and even stopped to rest. Also do you run everywhere you go? No cause running takes a lot of energy, same with lightspeed movements. If you’re about to fight a very strong enemy I’d sure like to save as much energy as I can
Manchester Black wrote:
Did you even read the thread?
Some of it, I’ll finish it later
Manchester Black wrote:
I should have made it clear all I did was go to the episode when they were fighting Omega and skipped around.I basically was going to prove Omega was full powered.
Well you should watch it so you know what you’re talking about when there’s a discussion about GT characters
Manchester Black wrote:
Look above.
Look above
Manchester Black wrote:
Prove it wasn’t Buus full power.Buu was a pschyo and if he could have one shotted the solar system it would have happened.
I know it wasn’t his full power cause that would make him weaker than Freeza. Also he may be crazy, but that doesn’t mean he going to blow up planets every time he sees one. If that was the case he could have blown up the supreme kai’s world
Manchester Black wrote:
Just thought about it.Since were using non-canon this is rape of epic proportions Pre-Crisis Darkseid+Anti-Life Equation+Agony Matrix=dead Brolly.
Still waiting for proof he can take a galaxy destroying blast | | #114 21 Feb 2008 04:00 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 8 Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Posts: 2,678 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
hehe true... seed for 'em even broly cant win against WW...
He can’t. The Godwave is no joke. ---
Would you stop thinking logically for a moment and look at things from the real perspective?
Last edited 21 Feb 2008 04:27 pm by Go2movies | | #115 21 Feb 2008 04:14 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,615 OFFLINE | Invaderzym wrote:
I’m still waiting for the scan of DS destroying a galaxy. You might want to throw this feat in as well if you want me to believe it
Ask and you shall recieve. http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ssosv004121rd8mw.jpg
http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ssosv004174cl2df.jpg
This is after Mantis absorbed the full power of Hal Jordans GL ring.Gls are capable of busting galaxies.
Invaderzym wrote:
Yes he did. He even stated himself he got stronger
Even if he did how much stronger?Not near his Mystic Gohan power up I bet.
Invaderzym wrote:
Goten and Trunks didn’t really take majin buu seriously until they saw Vegeta getting beat down by him. Before that they took their time and even stopped to rest. Also do you run everywhere you go? No cause running takes a lot of energy, same with lightspeed movements. If you’re about to fight a very strong enemy I’d sure like to save as much energy as I can
This fails because in the manga they don’t take forever to get places.
Invaderzym wrote:
Some of it, I’ll finish it later
After looking at the first few scans you should realize that with the Anti-Life Equation Darkseid demolishes him.
Invaderzym wrote:
Well you should watch it so you know what you’re talking about when there’s a discussion about GT characters
I don’t even see why were talking about GT.Brolly isn’t in it.
Invaderzym wrote:
I know it wasn’t his full power cause that would make him weaker than Freeza. Also he may be crazy, but that doesn’t mean he going to blow up planets every time he sees one. If that was the case he could have blown up the supreme kai’s world
Oh?Since where using anime what happened right after Buu blew up earth?He teleported to another planet and blew it up.
Invaderzym wrote:
Still waiting for proof he can take a galaxy destroying blast
First look above.Second Pre-Crisis Darkseid slapped around Pre-Crisis Superman.The same Superman who as a baby broke the time barrier,who as a teenager moved a galaxys worth of planets,who flew so fast he left creation,yes that overpowered Superman.Give him the Anti-Life Equation(which was able to turn guys as powerful as the new gods to street bums among other things) and the Agony Matrix ability he had in the cartoon and its rape of epic proportions. ---
 | | #116 21 Feb 2008 04:21 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | 18k= Planet busting power.
Second form Frieza had a power of about 1 million. Now using full power of second form, Frieza can bust about 55 or 56 planets. That was second form Frieza, apperently, Frieza had sucky ki control and probably couldn’t use an attack of this magnitude but mathmatically, yes, he has this kind of power in second form. However....Vegeta’s power was multiplied when he was using that Galic Gun so...This changes the numbers, I say Galic Gun multiplies his power by 2, which would put Vegeta’s power at 36,000 at the time of firing the blast.(I believe that makes sence as if blasts didn’t have a multiplier there would be no point to them.)
So, the new power rating would be, for second form Frieza: About 27 planets. Again since Frieza’s terrible ki control he would probably have to have alot of time to power this up. ---
 | | #117 21 Feb 2008 04:40 pm |
Invaderzym Guest | Manchester Black wrote:
This is after Mantis absorbed the full power of Hal Jordans GL ring.Gls are capable of busting galaxies.
Were was it stated GLs can destroy galaxies. I’m now waiting for proof that DS can destroy a galaxy and that attack he took is capable of destroying a galaxy
Manchester Black wrote:
Even if he did how much stronger?Not near his Mystic Gohan power up I bet.
Well we know zenkai’s can incease a power more than 30 times. Remember when Vegeta went from 450 to over 2 million after one zenkai. I’m not saying he was mystic level but I’m saying he was pretty damn stong
Manchester Black wrote:
This fails because in the manga they don’t take forever to get places.
What are you going on about now?
Manchester Black wrote:
After looking at the first few scans you should realize that with the Anti-Life Equation Darkseid demolishes him.
I will see
Manchester Black wrote:
I don’t even see why were talking about GT.Brolly isn’t in it.
I mean in the future, but whatever
Manchester Black wrote:
Oh?Since where using anime what happened right after Buu blew up earth?He teleported to another planet and blew it up.
...ok?...AND?
Manchester Black wrote:
First look above.Second Pre-Crisis Darkseid slapped around Pre-Crisis Superman.The same Superman who as a baby broke the time barrier,who as a teenager moved a galaxys worth of planets,who flew so fast he left creation,yes that overpowered Superman.Give him the Anti-Life Equation(which was able to turn guys as powerful as the new gods to street bums among other things) and the Agony Matrix ability he had in the cartoon and its rape of epic proportions.
Yeah I’m REALLY gonna need some scans of those | | #118 21 Feb 2008 05:06 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,615 OFFLINE | ---
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Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Question: Was it Darksied with JUST HIS POWER alone? Or did he have devices? ---
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Light-Bringer Rep: 28  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,615 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Question: Was it Darksied with JUST HIS POWER alone? Or did he have devices?
You mean surviving the blast?It was alone. ---
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