Broly vs Darkseid

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2.yes i know you can dodge him if his speed is 100m/10sec but if that is 100m/sec,no.

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Second form Freeza, I said he was stronger than THIRD form Freeza



The manga says different



I don’t consider a single blast to the face pwning. King kai is still a god, also think what you want, Supreme kai and kabito kai could beat superman. Finally he may have been weak but he was still Broly’s father and Broly killed him anyway



It was the size of his hand. It was pretty big. Villains lose a lot of their power when they go to hell. If they didn’t it wouldn’t have taken cell, Freeza, his father, and the ginyu force to over power two guys who pre sayian saga Goku beat. And he still got beat up by a normal human



If they struggled with it Piccolo wouldn’t have been able to lift it with one hand. Not that it matters or anything. Use that low end feat if you want (even though it’s wrong) struggling to lift a bus > getting beat up by a normal human



The fact that his power was able to move the Earth means if he wanted to he could put all his energy into his physical strength and move the planet, or he could move the planet with his ki.

And before you ask for proof example 1 can be seen in movie 6, meta cooler when Piccolo, Gohan and Krillin couldn’t punch through the Robots then Piccolo told them to put all their energy into their punches and then they were able to cut through the robots no problem

Example 2 can been seein in movie 7 super 13 when Trunks was able to lift and throw giant icebergs with his ki

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@Invaderzym,lol roshi pulvorized the moon and the moon was disapeared even roshi can push that using his power.

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hey, so has majin buu



Stop saying Goku like that. It was base Goku. ssj Goku was able to lift it was ease, and don’t forget his 3 other forms.



Wait, how do you compare a powered down ssj Goku whos asleep to Broly?

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it is stupid to say base goku cant lift 40 tons.

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It’s been debated that it was 400 tons cause the planet he was on was said to have 10x normal gravity. So 40tons there = 400 to us

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i know that.

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That is my whole point, you can dodge someone who can run faster than you, that doesn’t mean you can run faster than them.

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because he is not /sec but if that is 10m/sec yes.

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I need proof before I accept this.

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who own that land Supreme Kai,right?

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Yes, But I don’t believe it was ever stated to have abnormal gravity, King Kai’s planet did but we don’t know about Sepreme Kai’s.

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lol the kai’s has 10xg then this supreme kai has only have 1x g?lol....

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Actually King Kai’s had 20x but all I need is proof. I’m not sayin I don’t agree with you but Black is going to require proof.

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as far as i know its stated but i dont know what since is that,maybe you have to search about the video’s.

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Well if Sepreme Kai’s planet is 20x g then well, 40 tons wieghts thing there is = 800 tons to us.

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if that is.

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Yes. That is an if.

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Actually I dont know what you are on about here now.

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Just making sure.


The manga SHOWS him moving fast.Not instantly.


http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa690929jpgorig0zf.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa690920jpgorig8sk.jpg
Good enough?


How do we have a debate going on with Superman vs Goku and its been made clear the two are equals yet Supreme Kai who is nowhere near Goku can beat Superman!Supreme Kai is pathetic and has no feats that put him near Superman at all.


So basically if I kill my dad and he is weak I get props?Thats not how it works.Darkseid could have killed Yuga had it not been for that clause.


It didn’t take all of them.They were messing around.Also since you like to use the scan so much I would like to know the circumstances to that incident because there was once a story where Supes was depowered.If its from that story your argument fails.


Same as above.You probably just saw the scan and was like “Let me use this against Supes"you probably don’t even know the circumstances of the comic.


And you base this off what?DBZ is known for its powerful energy attacks and speed but not its physical strength.


Thats punching not the same as them using it to lift something.


Was it levitating?If so thats also not physical strength in He-mans calibur.