Xemnas vs Darth Vader

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This is not a popularity contest folks. I thought this was a great match because well, they are both the 'dark side' and both use lightsabers. Well Xemnas uses Ariel Blades but they are close enough.

I guess this is a matter of The Force vs Nothingness

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which version of vader? pre suit or suit?

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Suit

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show me a vid of xemnas

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it seems like he has the favor here in the power and speed. but if it was pre suit, i would have to say vader.

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Okay we’ll go with pre suit since we are going by the strongest version of Xemnas. I saw it’s going to be close, But since Vader has the force it might tip things in his favor.

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he also has the force grip which could come in handy. and the jedi and sith can slow time and space so xemnas would be at a disadvantage

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That is true, but if Xemnas pulls out the Twilight laser (That big bunch of lasers that he uses near the end) it might be an equalizer. But since force powers can only be resisted by those who have the force, Vader has the biggest advantage here.

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i am surprised no one else is here to debate.

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i think Xemnas would win... his little twilight rays and those light bullets he shoots... that would pwn any vader...

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yes but the force would just force it right back at xemnas as soon as he attacked him. don’t count vader out just yet. and no, i am not counting xemnas out yet.

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I don’t know, Vader does have the force, which Xemnas doesn’t have. Meaning he can’t resist force powers, However, you are right, Those powers are the equalizer for it.

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but they are made of nothing... the force moves objects and stuff.. but can it protect against a big lot of nothing?

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But could Vader concentrate on all those lasers at once? I see him deflecting some with his lightsaber while avoiding some and yet forcing the lasers back. But the lasers being sent back can probably be controled by Xemnas so. Yeah, Vader still has good chances of getting by Xemnas’s best attack. Of course if we use armor Xemnas, He has every Orginizations members power and he throws buildings and homing lasers at you. I think Xemnas might be a bit broken as he doesn’t display such feats i his Twilight Form(the one in the vid)

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you underestimate the power of the force my young padawan

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and you underestimate the power of nothing...

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I know what nothing is. Look up Nihilism

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no you...

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Well they are made from nothingness. Don’t know how Force would fair against it, but I know Xemnas couldn’t resist the the force as he must have the force to resist it. Also doesn’t Vader have force drain? He could drain the...something out of Xemnas. Don’t know what that would be, that force power may have no affect as he is a nobody and doesn’t have a heart. Hmm...