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[Quote] #81
23 Feb 2008 09:20 pm
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NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi


Yes, he can make them explode. But they would also have to come in contact with Luke.

not really, the clone dont have to be touched if itachi wanted them to explode.
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23 Feb 2008 09:22 pm
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SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi


Yes, he can make them explode. But they would also have to come in contact with Luke.

not really, the clone dont have to be touched if itachi wanted them to explode.


What I was saying was that they would have to come in contact with Luke to have any effect on him.
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23 Feb 2008 09:22 pm
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Red_Calibur9 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi

As I said, Sharigan will not affect the force and just because Itachi can see what Luke is going to do does not mean he can react to it, I believe a few ninja’s proved this didn’t they?

you didnt answer the question, how come grevius killed all those jedis if nothing can beat the force but the force? and which ninjas are you reffering to?

When was it said that only the Force can beat the Force? Stormtroopers killed plenty of Jedi.

In a novel if I remember right. Yeah they did, but when those jedi used force push or something on them they went back didn’t they?
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23 Feb 2008 09:24 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi

As I said, Sharigan will not affect the force and just because Itachi can see what Luke is going to do does not mean he can react to it, I believe a few ninja’s proved this didn’t they?

you didnt answer the question, how come grevius killed all those jedis if nothing can beat the force but the force? and which ninjas are you reffering to?

When was it said that only the Force can beat the Force? Stormtroopers killed plenty of Jedi.

In a novel if I remember right. Yeah they did, but when those jedi used force push or something on them they went back didn’t they?


Yup. The clones, stormtroopers, and the Yuuzhan Vong have killed Jedi. Even some droids.
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23 Feb 2008 09:25 pm
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SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi

As I said, Sharigan will not affect the force and just because Itachi can see what Luke is going to do does not mean he can react to it, I believe a few ninja’s proved this didn’t they?

you didnt answer the question, how come grevius killed all those jedis if nothing can beat the force but the force? and which ninjas are you reffering to?

It is possible that the jedi he fought had a weak force. If someone used forcepush on him it would work. I’m not saying those who use the force must be beaten by someone who uses the force. I’m saying to stop the force from affecting you, you must too, have the force.
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[Quote] #86
23 Feb 2008 09:29 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi

As I said, Sharigan will not affect the force and just because Itachi can see what Luke is going to do does not mean he can react to it, I believe a few ninja’s proved this didn’t they?

you didnt answer the question, how come grevius killed all those jedis if nothing can beat the force but the force? and which ninjas are you reffering to?

It is possible that the jedi he fought had a weak force. If someone used forcepush on him it would work. I’m not saying those who use the force must be beaten by someone who uses the force. I’m saying to stop the force from affecting you, you must too, have the force.

not true. a lightning force can be blocked by a saber. and even force users can be pushed back. so, having the force in a battle is just an advantage, doesnt mean youre immune to evry attack.
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23 Feb 2008 09:29 pm
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SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi

As I said, Sharigan will not affect the force and just because Itachi can see what Luke is going to do does not mean he can react to it, I believe a few ninja’s proved this didn’t they?

you didnt answer the question, how come grevius killed all those jedis if nothing can beat the force but the force? and which ninjas are you reffering to?

It is possible that the jedi he fought had a weak force. If someone used forcepush on him it would work. I’m not saying those who use the force must be beaten by someone who uses the force. I’m saying to stop the force from affecting you, you must too, have the force.

not true. a lightning force can be blocked by a saber. and even force users can be pushed back. so, having the force in a battle is just an advantage, doesnt mean youre immune to evry attack.


Yes, but Itachi has no lightsaber.
[Quote] #88
23 Feb 2008 09:30 pm
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NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi


Yes, he can make them explode. But they would also have to come in contact with Luke.

not really, the clone dont have to be touched if itachi wanted them to explode.


What I was saying was that they would have to come in contact with Luke to have any effect on him.

contact=/=range
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23 Feb 2008 09:31 pm
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SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi

As I said, Sharigan will not affect the force and just because Itachi can see what Luke is going to do does not mean he can react to it, I believe a few ninja’s proved this didn’t they?

you didnt answer the question, how come grevius killed all those jedis if nothing can beat the force but the force? and which ninjas are you reffering to?

It is possible that the jedi he fought had a weak force. If someone used forcepush on him it would work. I’m not saying those who use the force must be beaten by someone who uses the force. I’m saying to stop the force from affecting you, you must too, have the force.

not true. a lightning force can be blocked by a saber. and even force users can be pushed back. so, having the force in a battle is just an advantage, doesnt mean youre immune to evry attack.

And what does it take to activate that lightsaber? Also yes force users do get pushed back, but it’s either because A. They are not expecting it or B. Have a weaker force than the other and therefor can’t resist it.
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23 Feb 2008 09:32 pm
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SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi


Yes, he can make them explode. But they would also have to come in contact with Luke.

not really, the clone dont have to be touched if itachi wanted them to explode.


What I was saying was that they would have to come in contact with Luke to have any effect on him.

contact=/=range


huh
[Quote] #91
23 Feb 2008 09:32 pm
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NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi

As I said, Sharigan will not affect the force and just because Itachi can see what Luke is going to do does not mean he can react to it, I believe a few ninja’s proved this didn’t they?

you didnt answer the question, how come grevius killed all those jedis if nothing can beat the force but the force? and which ninjas are you reffering to?

It is possible that the jedi he fought had a weak force. If someone used forcepush on him it would work. I’m not saying those who use the force must be beaten by someone who uses the force. I’m saying to stop the force from affecting you, you must too, have the force.

not true. a lightning force can be blocked by a saber. and even force users can be pushed back. so, having the force in a battle is just an advantage, doesnt mean youre immune to evry attack.


Yes, but Itachi has no lightsaber.

true true. but the point is the force is not needed to counter a force. any other attack will do.
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23 Feb 2008 09:34 pm
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SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi

As I said, Sharigan will not affect the force and just because Itachi can see what Luke is going to do does not mean he can react to it, I believe a few ninja’s proved this didn’t they?

you didnt answer the question, how come grevius killed all those jedis if nothing can beat the force but the force? and which ninjas are you reffering to?

It is possible that the jedi he fought had a weak force. If someone used forcepush on him it would work. I’m not saying those who use the force must be beaten by someone who uses the force. I’m saying to stop the force from affecting you, you must too, have the force.

not true. a lightning force can be blocked by a saber. and even force users can be pushed back. so, having the force in a battle is just an advantage, doesnt mean youre immune to evry attack.


Yes, but Itachi has no lightsaber.

true true. but the point is the force is not needed to counter a force. any other attack will do.

I explained this.
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23 Feb 2008 09:34 pm
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SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi

As I said, Sharigan will not affect the force and just because Itachi can see what Luke is going to do does not mean he can react to it, I believe a few ninja’s proved this didn’t they?

you didnt answer the question, how come grevius killed all those jedis if nothing can beat the force but the force? and which ninjas are you reffering to?

It is possible that the jedi he fought had a weak force. If someone used forcepush on him it would work. I’m not saying those who use the force must be beaten by someone who uses the force. I’m saying to stop the force from affecting you, you must too, have the force.

not true. a lightning force can be blocked by a saber. and even force users can be pushed back. so, having the force in a battle is just an advantage, doesnt mean youre immune to evry attack.


Yes, but Itachi has no lightsaber.

true true. but the point is the force is not needed to counter a force. any other attack will do.


What? Sharingan. Shadow Clones? Ameratsu?
[Quote] #94
23 Feb 2008 09:41 pm
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NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi

As I said, Sharigan will not affect the force and just because Itachi can see what Luke is going to do does not mean he can react to it, I believe a few ninja’s proved this didn’t they?

you didnt answer the question, how come grevius killed all those jedis if nothing can beat the force but the force? and which ninjas are you reffering to?

It is possible that the jedi he fought had a weak force. If someone used forcepush on him it would work. I’m not saying those who use the force must be beaten by someone who uses the force. I’m saying to stop the force from affecting you, you must too, have the force.

not true. a lightning force can be blocked by a saber. and even force users can be pushed back. so, having the force in a battle is just an advantage, doesnt mean youre immune to evry attack.


Yes, but Itachi has no lightsaber.

true true. but the point is the force is not needed to counter a force. any other attack will do.


What? Sharingan. Shadow Clones? Ameratsu?

well, yeah i guess. because if the force can only counter itself, then the jedis can breathe in space, because the vacuum in space is not the force so the force can protect them. or no blaster in the universe can kill a jedi because the the force will protect them. see my point?
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23 Feb 2008 09:42 pm
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SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi

As I said, Sharigan will not affect the force and just because Itachi can see what Luke is going to do does not mean he can react to it, I believe a few ninja’s proved this didn’t they?

you didnt answer the question, how come grevius killed all those jedis if nothing can beat the force but the force? and which ninjas are you reffering to?

It is possible that the jedi he fought had a weak force. If someone used forcepush on him it would work. I’m not saying those who use the force must be beaten by someone who uses the force. I’m saying to stop the force from affecting you, you must too, have the force.

not true. a lightning force can be blocked by a saber. and even force users can be pushed back. so, having the force in a battle is just an advantage, doesnt mean youre immune to evry attack.


Yes, but Itachi has no lightsaber.

true true. but the point is the force is not needed to counter a force. any other attack will do.


What? Sharingan. Shadow Clones? Ameratsu?

well, yeah i guess. because if the force can only counter itself, then the jedis can breathe in space, because the vacuum in space is not the force so the force can protect them. or no blaster in the universe can kill a jedi because the the force will protect them. see my point?

I see your point but I think that the force might be limited to the willpower of the forceuser.
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23 Feb 2008 09:43 pm
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NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi


Yes, he can make them explode. But they would also have to come in contact with Luke.

not really, the clone dont have to be touched if itachi wanted them to explode.


What I was saying was that they would have to come in contact with Luke to have any effect on him.

contact=/=range


huh

in order for the clone to explode, itachi must make it explode. doesnt matter if the targets in contact with it. just as long as the target is within the blast radius of the clone. get it?
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23 Feb 2008 09:46 pm
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SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi


Yes, he can make them explode. But they would also have to come in contact with Luke.

not really, the clone dont have to be touched if itachi wanted them to explode.


What I was saying was that they would have to come in contact with Luke to have any effect on him.

contact=/=range


huh

in order for the clone to explode, itachi must make it explode. doesnt matter if the targets in contact with it. just as long as the target is within the blast radius of the clone. get it?



That is what I meant before you used the contact=/=range bit.
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23 Feb 2008 09:47 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi

As I said, Sharigan will not affect the force and just because Itachi can see what Luke is going to do does not mean he can react to it, I believe a few ninja’s proved this didn’t they?

you didnt answer the question, how come grevius killed all those jedis if nothing can beat the force but the force? and which ninjas are you reffering to?

It is possible that the jedi he fought had a weak force. If someone used forcepush on him it would work. I’m not saying those who use the force must be beaten by someone who uses the force. I’m saying to stop the force from affecting you, you must too, have the force.

not true. a lightning force can be blocked by a saber. and even force users can be pushed back. so, having the force in a battle is just an advantage, doesnt mean youre immune to evry attack.


Yes, but Itachi has no lightsaber.

true true. but the point is the force is not needed to counter a force. any other attack will do.


What? Sharingan. Shadow Clones? Ameratsu?

well, yeah i guess. because if the force can only counter itself, then the jedis can breathe in space, because the vacuum in space is not the force so the force can protect them. or no blaster in the universe can kill a jedi because the the force will protect them. see my point?

I see your point but I think that the force might be limited to the willpower of the forceuser.

thats true. not all force user has the same force potential and ablity.

oh and i just found this:

The principles of the Force resonate with those of some real world religions, including the Shinto religion of Japan, Buddhism, and certain Celtic druidic concepts. The Force also bears a close similarity to the Chinese notion of qigong, or “chi”

so basically, the force is the alternate reality of chakra. chakra is another term for chi.
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23 Feb 2008 09:50 pm
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SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi

As I said, Sharigan will not affect the force and just because Itachi can see what Luke is going to do does not mean he can react to it, I believe a few ninja’s proved this didn’t they?

you didnt answer the question, how come grevius killed all those jedis if nothing can beat the force but the force? and which ninjas are you reffering to?

It is possible that the jedi he fought had a weak force. If someone used forcepush on him it would work. I’m not saying those who use the force must be beaten by someone who uses the force. I’m saying to stop the force from affecting you, you must too, have the force.

not true. a lightning force can be blocked by a saber. and even force users can be pushed back. so, having the force in a battle is just an advantage, doesnt mean youre immune to evry attack.


Yes, but Itachi has no lightsaber.

true true. but the point is the force is not needed to counter a force. any other attack will do.


What? Sharingan. Shadow Clones? Ameratsu?

well, yeah i guess. because if the force can only counter itself, then the jedis can breathe in space, because the vacuum in space is not the force so the force can protect them. or no blaster in the universe can kill a jedi because the the force will protect them. see my point?

I see your point but I think that the force might be limited to the willpower of the forceuser.

thats true. not all force user has the same force potential and ablity.

oh and i just found this:

The principles of the Force resonate with those of some real world religions, including the Shinto religion of Japan, Buddhism, and certain Celtic druidic concepts. The Force also bears a close similarity to the Chinese notion of qigong, or “chi”

so basically, the force is the alternate reality of chakra. chakra is another term for chi.

Now this makes the fight more intersting.
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23 Feb 2008 09:51 pm
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NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote: how do you know luke will be immune to the sharingan when he use the speed force? no one is immune to the sharingan. cept for an even stronger sharingan.

and just like the creator of this thread said, uhmmm, psycojr pointed out, maybe luke was just fighting itachis clones. itachi always use techniques from the start of the fight right?

man i cant believe im kinda supporting itachi. gotta get some rest. but still luke wins


If he was fighting clones, the force speed gives him time to look for the real Itachi while destroying the clones

itachi can make those clones explode. and with the help of the sharingan, he can, predict luke actions, and see him moving as if in slow motion.

kinda like the flash and zoom. the flash can move fast, but zoom, can make his opponent move in slow motion. the flash as luke and zoom as itachi


Yes, he can make them explode. But they would also have to come in contact with Luke.

not really, the clone dont have to be touched if itachi wanted them to explode.


What I was saying was that they would have to come in contact with Luke to have any effect on him.

contact=/=range


huh

in order for the clone to explode, itachi must make it explode. doesnt matter if the targets in contact with it. just as long as the target is within the blast radius of the clone. get it?



That is what I meant before you used the contact=/=range bit.

contact=the act or state of touching;

so, contact=/=range(of the blast)
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