#21 30 Apr 2008 02:32 pm |
eoghan Guest | 1indainfinite wrote:
Does anybody know why we need life? In a solar system wise way.
we dont need life, life needs us. if we cease to exist, so then does life itself. see theory of relativity. | |
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#22 30 Apr 2008 02:34 pm |
Wannabe Rep: 0 Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 18 OFFLINE | see Theory of whogivesashit | |
#23 30 Apr 2008 03:27 pm |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 55  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,014 OFFLINE | Anything that has a metabolism is alive, thats why virus are not conceded to be alive. --- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | |
#24 30 Apr 2008 03:42 pm |
petrofsky nli Guest | 1indainfinite wrote:
Does anybody know why we need life? In a solar system wise way.
We don’t need life. Life was created by a bunch of random scientific reactions and created things like us. | |
#25 14 May 2008 01:58 am |
FigurinItOutWhereverItGoes Guest | Yo! 1inDaInfinite! Wassup bro? Yours truly (or is it IT Truly?) googled “are we really alive”, and lo and behold, here I be.
Didn’t think I’d find anything — anyone — of like mind. Apparently I did. Would you happen to know what philosophy Ph D’s have to say on the subject? I ask because, as my arrival here suggests, “it’s all been done before." Maybe better by people who have nothing better to do than think about this stuff. So, if you know, could you share with me the academic back-story on this whole business — this, shall we say, somewhat modest interpretation of the human condition?
I tell my students (I’m a math teacher by $$) when the opportunity arises, that not only do I believe we descended from monkeys, we ARE monkeys! Baddest monkeys on da planet. Cool. That’s not a bad situation to be in. You wanna be a chimp? Not me bro. But it gets so much worse, if you pursue the truth wherever it leads. The truth is, if you think it through, We-ain’t-even-fucking-alive. We just think we are. Complex combinations of molecules runnin' amok. That’s what we appear to be.
Anyone...please put me in my place! I want to go back to believing that everything is cool. That God loves me and that I’m going to heaven or something similar. At least convince me that I am alive and not a bunch of molecules that have been tricked into thinking they’re alive so they will procreate — and continue their legacy.
I’m full of shit? Fine. Where am I getting it wrong?
Let there be truth...wherever it leads. Whadda ya think, fellow 1’s?
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#26 14 May 2008 02:03 am |
FigurinItOutWhereverItGoes Guest | Yo! 1inDaInfinite! Wassup bro? Yours truly (or is it IT Truly?) googled “are we really alive”, and lo and behold, here I be.
Didn’t think I’d find anything — anyone — of like mind. Apparently I did. Would you happen to know what philosophy Ph D’s have to say on the subject? I ask because, as my arrival here suggests, “it’s all been done before." Maybe better by people who have nothing better to do than think about this stuff. So, if you know, could you share with me the academic back-story on this whole business — this, shall we say, somewhat modest interpretation of the human condition?
I tell my students (I’m a math teacher by $$) when the opportunity arises, that not only do I believe we descended from monkeys, we ARE monkeys! Baddest monkeys on da planet. Cool. That’s not a bad situation to be in. You wanna be a chimp? Not me bro. But it gets so much worse, if you pursue the truth wherever it leads. The truth is, if you think it through, We-ain’t-even-fucking-alive. We just think we are. Complex combinations of molecules runnin' amok. That’s what we appear to be.
Anyone...please put me in my place! I want to go back to believing that everything is cool. That God loves me and that I’m going to heaven or something similar. At least convince me that I am alive and not a bunch of molecules that have been tricked into thinking they’re alive so they will procreate — and continue their legacy.
I’m full of shit? Fine. Where am I getting it wrong?
Let there be truth...wherever it leads. Whadda ya think, fellow 1’s?
daBash | |
#27 14 May 2008 08:02 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,508 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
Anything that has a metabolism is alive, thats why virus are not conceded to be alive.
How tell the cells to protect them self againts other cells like T-Cells...??? they dont have brains afteall...??? ---

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#28 14 May 2008 08:03 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 23  Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 1,685 OFFLINE | Einstein described it perfectly --- I’ve been banned 69 times over all my accounts.
I’ve been perma banned 36 times over all of my accounts. | |
#29 14 May 2008 08:05 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31  Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,253 OFFLINE | We are alive, but there is a sense that we are not. We are made of atoms which are not living things. These atoms build chemicals, and they interact and react with each other which creates effects. These differect reactions all come together to make a breathing, thinking organism. In other words, we kinda are not living, just building blocks put together in strange ways. We are one huge chemical reaction. ---
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#30 14 May 2008 08:07 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,508 OFFLINE | Hmmm... from where atoms is...??? and the sun also a big chemicals reactions... ---

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#31 14 May 2008 08:08 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31  Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,253 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Hmmm... from where atoms is...??? and the sun also a big chemicals reactions...
Atoms have been around since the beginning of the universe. The sun, yes, is a big chemical reaction as well. ---
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#32 14 May 2008 08:11 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,508 OFFLINE | so the universe suddenly exist...???
from nothingness...??? ---

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#33 14 May 2008 08:13 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31  Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,253 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
so the universe suddenly exist...???
from nothingness...???
So how did God come into existance? It can be reversed like that. That is the biggest scientific/religious question in the world. ---
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#34 14 May 2008 08:14 pm |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 69  Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 32,780 OFFLINE | petrofsky wrote:
We are alive, but there is a sense that we are not. We are made of atoms which are not living things. These atoms build chemicals, and they interact and react with each other which creates effects. These differect reactions all come together to make a breathing, thinking organism. In other words, we kinda are not living, just building blocks put together in strange ways. We are one huge chemical reaction.
That’s how kickass we all are. | |
#35 14 May 2008 08:20 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,508 OFFLINE | petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
so the universe suddenly exist...???
from nothingness...???
So how did God come into existance? It can be reversed like that. That is the biggest scientific/religious question in the world.
GOD EXIST EVEN BEFORE EVERYTHING EXIST... ---

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#36 14 May 2008 08:21 pm |
In the infinite Rep: 40  Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 10,811 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
so the universe suddenly exist...???
from nothingness...???
So how did God come into existance? It can be reversed like that. That is the biggest scientific/religious question in the world.
GOD EXIST EVEN BEFORE EVERYTHING EXIST...
SO HE EXISTED BEFORE HIMSELF?
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#37 14 May 2008 08:22 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31  Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,253 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
so the universe suddenly exist...???
from nothingness...???
So how did God come into existance? It can be reversed like that. That is the biggest scientific/religious question in the world.
GOD EXIST EVEN BEFORE EVERYTHING EXIST...
That is not possible. If he existed and created everything, then time had to exist before him, then that leads to the question what made time? It is a real confusing question especially when it is a debate between religion and science. It is not possible for something to be around forever. Even if god did exist and created the world, there was no way for him to be the first thing in existance because:
1.) Where would he fit without any form of space?
2.) He would be frozen because time has not come into existance yet ---
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#38 14 May 2008 08:24 pm |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 69  Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 32,780 OFFLINE | petrofsky, no offense, but you’re not seeing the big picture here.
SURELY if there is a being powerful enough to create an entire universe, then what’s not to say he can live before time as well? | |
#39 14 May 2008 08:24 pm |
In the infinite Rep: 40  Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 10,811 OFFLINE | petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
so the universe suddenly exist...???
from nothingness...???
So how did God come into existance? It can be reversed like that. That is the biggest scientific/religious question in the world.
GOD EXIST EVEN BEFORE EVERYTHING EXIST...
That is not possible. If he existed and created everything, then time had to exist before him, then that leads to the question what made time? It is a real confusing question especially when it is a debate between religion and science. It is not possible for something to be around forever. Even if god did exist and created the world, there was no way for him to be the first thing in existance because:
1.) Where would he fit without any form of space?
2.) He would be frozen because time has not come into existance yet
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#40 14 May 2008 08:25 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31  Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,253 OFFLINE | NEREVAR117 wrote:
petrofsky, no offense, but you’re not seeing the big picture here.
SURELY if there is a being powerful enough to create an entire universe, then what’s not to say he can live before time as well?
It is just not possible. No matter how powerful something is, it cannot function without time. That is a fact. ---
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