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28 Feb 2008 04:38 pm
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NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
Protagonist301 wrote: Those are just facts not feats and they even said it is suggested he can go light speed doesn’t mean its true plus you even said it was flawed.


I think I know what I wrote. duh.

Then why say it cause you pretty much proving that he can’t go light speed.

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If he can travel light speed than its no point in using IT which is light speed. If Raditz had light speed why it took him a good while to get to Roshi’s island to meet Goku? Plus who saids Raditz can go light speed?

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Protagonist301 wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
Protagonist301 wrote: Those are just facts not feats and they even said it is suggested he can go light speed doesn’t mean its true plus you even said it was flawed.


I think I know what I wrote. duh.

Then why say it cause you pretty much proving that he can’t go light speed.


I did not prove that he can go to light speed. It is said that it has not been proven. That does not mean that he cannot.

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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: IN DB it is implied that Goku knocked ChiChi out of the ring with just the wind from his blow and the announcer didn’t even see it happen, and Goku says “Maybe I went to hard” implying that he is probably even stronger than that.
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/214/chapter.15942/page.8/
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/214/chapter.15942/page.9/
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/214/chapter.15942/page.10/

OK but how does that proves he moves light speed? Faster than sound yeah but light no.

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28 Feb 2008 04:41 pm
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Ki allow the user to go faster than other with less Ki, in a same battle, the speed of fight change as the ki raise, in the Case of the Z senchi, of Goku, he could be fighting over sound speed and suddenly, ZOOM, he just send a kick at light speed, to later comeback to a lower speed, at the end of manga Goku ki will allow him to go over light speed.



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Visitor XD wrote: Ki allow the user to go faster than other with less Ki, in a same battle, the speed of fight change as the ki raise, in the Case of the Z senchi, of Goku, he could be fighting over sound speed and suddenly, ZOOM, he just send a kick at light speed, to later comeback to a lower speed, at the end of manga Goku ki will allow him to go over light speed.



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Hope that fixed it

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OK 1 it doesn’t show. 2 ki does not make a person go stronger but the person makes the ki stronger. Think of ki like a muscle. If you work it out the more you can do.

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No I’m wrong about ki being like a muscle. Actually the more you exercise the body more energy you have in you body to use. So like I said before ki doesn’t make the body stronger but the person.

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28 Feb 2008 07:41 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Okay, no the solar system busting Cell could have done was not BS. In fact I gave reasons why it could be true. Okay, Saiyan saga Vegeta had the capability of blowing up a planet correct?

I wouldn’t see why Cell couldn’t bust a Solar system. It makes perfectly good sence.


Yeah...but buu only blow up a planet with an energy ball that two guys that were stronger then cell couldn’t deflect. Sounds like BP to me.

Yeah but lets not forget something. Buu just wanted to nuke the planet, it wasn’t like he was trying to blow more than that up. He apperently likes to blow things up one at a time. Also, the properties of a vanishing ball are different than a kemehameha, for instance the vanishing ball will just nuke one place(Earth in that case) while, Kamehameha can be used to strike more than just one place.

Cell could have either been
A: planning on shooting it into the sun
B: Had enough power to destroy 10 planets(Which is reasonable as he was really strong and it took him awhile to charge up.) If he spread that energy out enough to destroy every planet 1x over he could very well bust a solar system.

Let’s not forget, Kid buu hardly charged up for it and like I said, the properties for destruction are different.


Do you know the size of the Sun?

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SunBuster wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Okay, no the solar system busting Cell could have done was not BS. In fact I gave reasons why it could be true. Okay, Saiyan saga Vegeta had the capability of blowing up a planet correct?

I wouldn’t see why Cell couldn’t bust a Solar system. It makes perfectly good sence.


Yeah...but buu only blow up a planet with an energy ball that two guys that were stronger then cell couldn’t deflect. Sounds like BP to me.

Yeah but lets not forget something. Buu just wanted to nuke the planet, it wasn’t like he was trying to blow more than that up. He apperently likes to blow things up one at a time. Also, the properties of a vanishing ball are different than a kemehameha, for instance the vanishing ball will just nuke one place(Earth in that case) while, Kamehameha can be used to strike more than just one place.

Cell could have either been
A: planning on shooting it into the sun
B: Had enough power to destroy 10 planets(Which is reasonable as he was really strong and it took him awhile to charge up.) If he spread that energy out enough to destroy every planet 1x over he could very well bust a solar system.

Let’s not forget, Kid buu hardly charged up for it and like I said, the properties for destruction are different.


Do you know the size of the Sun?

I really don’t care. I don’t get why it is so hard to believe they could do it.

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To destroy the sun you need less power than to destroy the Earth.

And Strengh and speed increase as Ki is higher, it works like a burst, a Zoom like Visitor said, enough to attack or to dodge.

Here is Toriyama writing about how a Kai o ken increase the STRENGHT.


“Vegeta strenght far surpassed gokus expectations! not even DOUBLING HIS STRENGHT through the kai o ken was enough to stop the saiyan.. Now what will he do.."

Speed






SSJ1 = more than Double X20 Kai o ken in the Freeza Saga.

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Here is a science page, a planet like earth produce more power than our sun, raw power and the center power, Earth explosion is stronger than a supernova from our sun, and to destroy the earth is require more power than to destroy our sun

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-11/1004909251.As.r.html

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Kakarrot wrote: Here is a science page, a planet like earth produce more power than our sun, raw power and the center power, Earth explosion is stronger than a supernova from our sun, and to destroy the earth is require more power than to destroy our sun

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-11/1004909251.As.r.html


i’ll check it out now.

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You would need a massive bomb to destroy something like the sun. Something from Star Trek or Star Wars maybe, or a very powerful attack to do the job.

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NihilusRavager7780 wrote: You would need a massive bomb to destroy something like the sun. Something from Star Trek or Star Wars maybe, or a very powerful attack to do the job.

You would need more than that to destroy a planet like earth, but yeah. Goku could destroy the sun by the saiyan saga it seems.

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Kakarrot wrote: Here is a science page, a planet like earth produce more power than our sun, raw power and the center power, Earth explosion is stronger than a supernova from our sun, and to destroy the earth is require more power than to destroy our sun

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-11/1004909251.As.r.html

...no where does it say there that you need more energy to destroy our planet than the sun...in fact the sun requires the most raw energy for the explosion

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To destroy the Earth you need more, because the composition of solid Rock is harder to destroy than Gas and the elements that the sun have

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Kakarrot wrote: To destroy the Earth you need more, because the composition of solid Rock is harder to destroy than Gas and the elements that the sun have

... yo udidnt read that right at all, not to mention you really have no idea the size difference between earth and the sun

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28 Feb 2008 08:29 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote: You would need a massive bomb to destroy something like the sun. Something from Star Trek or Star Wars maybe, or a very powerful attack to do the job.

You would need more than that to destroy a planet like earth, but yeah. Goku could destroy the sun by the saiyan saga it seems.


Then that kamehameha would have turned Vegeta into ash with no problem.

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28 Feb 2008 08:30 pm
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Trackz wrote:
Kakarrot wrote: To destroy the Earth you need more, because the composition of solid Rock is harder to destroy than Gas and the elements that the sun have

... yo udidnt read that right at all, not to mention you really have no idea the size difference between earth and the sun


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