#141 29 Feb 2008 07:10 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 13  Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,664 OFFLINE | Kakarrot wrote:
You are not using logic, Roshi Will problably will destroy the Earth Too, His blast will reach the core of the planet if he fire from the moon, but Vegeta blast will do it with ease, and desintegrate more . You see the beams are not bombs, they erode and create friction, the attacks that are like bombs are like the Kid Buu or Freeza dead Ball, with Ki they can create diferent attacks of any kind, but the Kamehame ha and the Galic Gun are straight beams, that erode anything in their path, they go straigth, what roshi did with all his ki, Vegeta can do many times over, The attack that have more ki will defeat the person with less Ki, Roshi will not affect Vegeta, Because Vegeta Ki is higher and that make him more durable, Vegeta wont need the Galic gun to Desintegrate Roshi, His power is far higher, The ki of Roshi is not enough to make him durable to even resit King Piccolo, The Earth and the moon are matter and do not use Ki to protect themself, because they are not a living creature that control Ki.
Goku and Vegeta SSJ have the power to destroy the earth without hitting the core, but to do that they have to create a ki ball that create a explosion, A kamehame ha, and a Galic Gun will pierce any planet and eventually destroy it, they can do anything with Ki. the kamehame ha will desintegrate more durable characters that have hire ki, Like Gohan SSJ2 to Cell(Goku SSJ1 only blow his head bbecause have less ki than Cell) the power is gigantic, but it works diferently than Death Ball From Freeza for example.
Next time, give me an argument, instead of a question and dont insult, that is a weak way to debate.
hitting the core cant pulvorize the planet.
oh ki doesn’t have heat?
ki own nuke
buu’s ki ball is different to freeza its far more powerfull than freeza.
as far as i know ki is bomb but its different to nuke
goku can minimize the explosion.
the more power the more can maximize the explosion (dbz).
also you mean ssj goku can bust planet but the base form cant?
then used your brain
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Shadow Goku336 Guest | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
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Post Crisis Superman vs Goku
Begin.
...is this another joke-topic, or does Goku get Kryptonite? | | #143 29 Feb 2008 10:15 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 9 Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 1,343 OFFLINE | seed wrote:
Kakarrot wrote:
You are not using logic, Roshi Will problably will destroy the Earth Too, His blast will reach the core of the planet if he fire from the moon, but Vegeta blast will do it with ease, and desintegrate more . You see the beams are not bombs, they erode and create friction, the attacks that are like bombs are like the Kid Buu or Freeza dead Ball, with Ki they can create diferent attacks of any kind, but the Kamehame ha and the Galic Gun are straight beams, that erode anything in their path, they go straigth, what roshi did with all his ki, Vegeta can do many times over, The attack that have more ki will defeat the person with less Ki, Roshi will not affect Vegeta, Because Vegeta Ki is higher and that make him more durable, Vegeta wont need the Galic gun to Desintegrate Roshi, His power is far higher, The ki of Roshi is not enough to make him durable to even resit King Piccolo, The Earth and the moon are matter and do not use Ki to protect themself, because they are not a living creature that control Ki.
Goku and Vegeta SSJ have the power to destroy the earth without hitting the core, but to do that they have to create a ki ball that release a explosion, A kamehame ha, and a Galic Gun will pierce any planet and eventually destroy it, they can do anything with Ki. the kamehame ha will desintegrate more durable characters that have hire ki, Like Gohan SSJ2 to Cell(Goku SSJ1 only blow his head bbecause have less ki than Cell) the power is gigantic, but it works diferently than Death Ball From Freeza for example.
Next time, give me an argument, instead of a question and dont insult, that is a weak way to debate.
hitting the core cant pulvorize the planet.
oh ki doesn’t have heat?
ki own nuke
buu’s ki ball is different to freeza its far more powerfull than freeza.
as far as i know ki is bomb but its different to nuke
goku can minimize the explosion.
the more power the more can maximize the explosion (dbz).
also you mean ssj goku can bust planet but the base form cant?
then used your brain
I said even if Roshi hit the core he could destroy the planet(By reaching the core and create a change reaction), Goku normal form could too, but a SSj1 Goku could do it with a diferent attack( he dont need to hit the core, his attack has enough power),to do that, Goku will have to compress the ki in a ball attack like the kid buu did, in that respect i believe no Z Warrior could do that until they reach the power of the Freeza Saga (first form Freeza power) and then the complete Cell and Buu Saga, mostly piccolo and the Saiyans, i dont think the humans can concentrade enough ki to do it( I mean an attack that destroy the planet without hitting the core and create a chain reaction, but all the Z warriors humans could damage the core and destroy it), I think only Piccolo and the Saiyans can and have the ki to create such attack(a ki ball that release a explosion), The humans perhaps could too, only if they have reach Frieza power (his weakest form) or surpass that power they could, That is my opinion. (I believe Tien in the end of the manga probably reach Freeza power, or surpass it, but there is no proof)
Ki work diferent than nuke, but have a greater power than nuke, if ki have heat then why when Goku use it against Freeza in the water the water didnt boil? Ki has more power than heat, when is release, but is not a heat attack like Superman heat vission for example, it works diferent, ki is more mistical and destructive than mere heat. the spirit Bomb for example is a all powerful mistical power, is not radiation or heat.
I know Kid Buu has more power than Freeza, i never said otherwise, i said that ki can be form and controled in diferent ways, and a kamehameha is a beam that go straight and erode(disintegrate) that is diferent than the Kid buu attack (A SSJ will be able to destroy in similar way the earth, but his ki ball will release less power force than compare with the Kid Buu, but Goku SSJ 3 will have a equal than the casual attack from the Kid Buu, and A full Power SSJ3 will have a lot more)
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 9Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 1,343 OFFLINE | Shadow Goku336 wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
Post Crisis Superman vs Goku
Begin.
...is this another joke-topic, or does Goku get Kryptonite?
Give us a reason why you think is a joke.
| | #145 29 Feb 2008 06:34 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105 Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 OFFLINE | Shadow Goku336 wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
Post Crisis Superman vs Goku
Begin.
...is this another joke-topic, or does Goku get Kryptonite?
Do you have a problem with me or something? If you do just say it now. | | #146 29 Feb 2008 06:52 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 21 Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 2,031 OFFLINE | Stop fight we all know that supermen will get his ass kick. ---
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 13Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,664 OFFLINE | Kakarrot wrote:
seed wrote:
Kakarrot wrote:
You are not using logic, Roshi Will problably will destroy the Earth Too, His blast will reach the core of the planet if he fire from the moon, but Vegeta blast will do it with ease, and desintegrate more . You see the beams are not bombs, they erode and create friction, the attacks that are like bombs are like the Kid Buu or Freeza dead Ball, with Ki they can create diferent attacks of any kind, but the Kamehame ha and the Galic Gun are straight beams, that erode anything in their path, they go straigth, what roshi did with all his ki, Vegeta can do many times over, The attack that have more ki will defeat the person with less Ki, Roshi will not affect Vegeta, Because Vegeta Ki is higher and that make him more durable, Vegeta wont need the Galic gun to Desintegrate Roshi, His power is far higher, The ki of Roshi is not enough to make him durable to even resit King Piccolo, The Earth and the moon are matter and do not use Ki to protect themself, because they are not a living creature that control Ki.
Goku and Vegeta SSJ have the power to destroy the earth without hitting the core, but to do that they have to create a ki ball that release a explosion, A kamehame ha, and a Galic Gun will pierce any planet and eventually destroy it, they can do anything with Ki. the kamehame ha will desintegrate more durable characters that have hire ki, Like Gohan SSJ2 to Cell(Goku SSJ1 only blow his head bbecause have less ki than Cell) the power is gigantic, but it works diferently than Death Ball From Freeza for example.
Next time, give me an argument, instead of a question and dont insult, that is a weak way to debate.
hitting the core cant pulvorize the planet.
oh ki doesn’t have heat?
ki own nuke
buu’s ki ball is different to freeza its far more powerfull than freeza.
as far as i know ki is bomb but its different to nuke
goku can minimize the explosion.
the more power the more can maximize the explosion (dbz).
also you mean ssj goku can bust planet but the base form cant?
then used your brain
I said even if Roshi hit the core he could destroy the planet(By reaching the core and create a change reaction), Goku normal form could too, but a SSj1 Goku could do it with a diferent attack( he dont need to hit the core, his attack has enough power),to do that, Goku will have to compress the ki in a ball attack like the kid buu did, in that respect i believe no Z Warrior could do that until they reach the power of the Freeza Saga (first form Freeza power) and then the complete Cell and Buu Saga, mostly piccolo and the Saiyans, i dont think the humans can concentrade enough ki to do it( I mean an attack that destroy the planet without hitting the core and create a chain reaction, but all the Z warriors humans could damage the core and destroy it), I think only Piccolo and the Saiyans can and have the ki to create such attack(a ki ball that release a explosion), The humans perhaps could too, only if they have reach Frieza power (his weakest form) or surpass that power they could, That is my opinion. (I believe Tien in the end of the manga probably reach Freeza power, or surpass it, but there is no proof)
Ki work diferent than nuke, but have a greater power than nuke, if ki have heat then why when Goku use it against Freeza in the water the water didnt boil? Ki has more power than heat, when is release, but is not a heat attack like Superman heat vission for example, it works diferent, ki is more mistical and destructive than mere heat. the spirit Bomb for example is a all powerful mistical power, is not radiation or heat.
I know Kid Buu has more power than Freeza, i never said otherwise, i said that ki can be form and controled in diferent ways, and a kamehameha is a beam that go straight and erode(disintegrate) that is diferent than the Kid buu attack (A SSJ will be able to destroy in similar way the earth, but his ki ball will release less power force than compare with the Kid Buu, but Goku SSJ 3 will have a equal than the casual attack from the Kid Buu, and A full Power SSJ3 will have a lot more)
i respect your statement.
but one thing,goku base form for you cant pulvorize earth?
the base form (raditz saga)can only destroy the planet if he destroy or hit the core?
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Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 OFFLINE | bump | | #149 29 Feb 2008 11:27 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 13Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,664 OFFLINE | @buster,wow creating the thread for fanboys?
post that here. ---
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The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50 Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,508 OFFLINE | I said even if Roshi hit the core he could destroy the planet(By reaching the core and create a change reaction), Goku normal form could too, but a SSj1 Goku could do it with a diferent attack( he dont need to hit the core, his attack has enough power),to do that, Goku will have to compress the ki in a ball attack like the kid buu did, in that respect i believe no Z Warrior could do that until they reach the power of the Freeza Saga (first form Freeza power) and then the complete Cell and Buu Saga, mostly piccolo and the Saiyans, i dont think the humans can concentrade enough ki to do it( I mean an attack that destroy the planet without hitting the core and create a chain reaction, but all the Z warriors humans could damage the core and destroy it), I think only Piccolo and the Saiyans can and have the ki to create such attack(a ki ball that release a explosion), The humans perhaps could too, only if they have reach Frieza power (his weakest form) or surpass that power they could, That is my opinion. (I believe Tien in the end of the manga probably reach Freeza power, or surpass it, but there is no proof)
Ki work diferent than nuke, but have a greater power than nuke, if ki have heat then why when Goku use it against Freeza in the water the water didnt boil? Ki has more power than heat, when is release, but is not a heat attack like Superman heat vission for example, it works diferent, ki is more mistical and destructive than mere heat. the spirit Bomb for example is a all powerful mistical power, is not radiation or heat.
I know Kid Buu has more power than Freeza, i never said otherwise, i said that ki can be form and controled in diferent ways, and a kamehameha is a beam that go straight and erode(disintegrate) that is diferent than the Kid buu attack (A SSJ will be able to destroy in similar way the earth, but his ki ball will release less power force than compare with the Kid Buu, but Goku SSJ 3 will have a equal than the casual attack from the Kid Buu, and A full Power SSJ3 will have a lot more)
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True... Not Just Roshi... King Picollo can do that too... ---
 
“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | #151 29 Feb 2008 11:42 pm |
guest 91 Guest | well since most superman and all forms of superman are not the original(superman himself is original but not the superman since the 1940’s)so you cannot really use them so superman can only accutaly in reality of it all jump over a tall building run faster than a speeding bullet and stronger than a settem engine goku wins no sweat since all but gt of him is origanal.
all the other crap that superman dose is the wrighters of DC putting superman against someone he would not be able to beat so they just increase his strength and powers to get them seleves out of a binde b/c thats the only way they can get sm to kill most of his enemies b/c they screwed up. | | #152 29 Feb 2008 11:44 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,508 OFFLINE | True guest.. helll even Kakashi can beat 1930 superman... ---
“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | #153 01 Mar 2008 12:04 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 13Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,664 OFFLINE | ...p ---
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The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,508 OFFLINE | 
Slow like 1930’s superman... Sasuke with Kirin can blast that superman underwear...
“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | #155 01 Mar 2008 12:09 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 13Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,664 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Slow like 1930’s superman... Sasuke with Kirin can blast that superman underwear...
canon
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The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,508 OFFLINE | TRUE...!!! ---
“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | #157 01 Mar 2008 05:27 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 9Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 1,343 OFFLINE | seed wrote:
Kakarrot wrote:
seed wrote:
Kakarrot wrote:
You are not using logic, Roshi Will problably will destroy the Earth Too, His blast will reach the core of the planet if he fire from the moon, but Vegeta blast will do it with ease, and desintegrate more . You see the beams are not bombs, they erode and create friction, the attacks that are like bombs are like the Kid Buu or Freeza dead Ball, with Ki they can create diferent attacks of any kind, but the Kamehame ha and the Galic Gun are straight beams, that erode anything in their path, they go straigth, what roshi did with all his ki, Vegeta can do many times over, The attack that have more ki will defeat the person with less Ki, Roshi will not affect Vegeta, Because Vegeta Ki is higher and that make him more durable, Vegeta wont need the Galic gun to Desintegrate Roshi, His power is far higher, The ki of Roshi is not enough to make him durable to even resit King Piccolo, The Earth and the moon are matter and do not use Ki to protect themself, because they are not a living creature that control Ki.
Goku and Vegeta SSJ have the power to destroy the earth without hitting the core, but to do that they have to create a ki ball that release a explosion, A kamehame ha, and a Galic Gun will pierce any planet and eventually destroy it, they can do anything with Ki. the kamehame ha will desintegrate more durable characters that have hire ki, Like Gohan SSJ2 to Cell(Goku SSJ1 only blow his head bbecause have less ki than Cell) the power is gigantic, but it works diferently than Death Ball From Freeza for example.
Next time, give me an argument, instead of a question and dont insult, that is a weak way to debate.
hitting the core cant pulvorize the planet.
oh ki doesn’t have heat?
ki own nuke
buu’s ki ball is different to freeza its far more powerfull than freeza.
as far as i know ki is bomb but its different to nuke
goku can minimize the explosion.
the more power the more can maximize the explosion (dbz).
also you mean ssj goku can bust planet but the base form cant?
then used your brain
I said even if Roshi hit the core he could destroy the planet(By reaching the core and create a change reaction), Goku normal form could too, but a SSj1 Goku could do it with a diferent attack( he dont need to hit the core, his attack has enough power),to do that, Goku will have to compress the ki in a ball attack like the kid buu did, in that respect i believe no Z Warrior could do that until they reach the power of the Freeza Saga (first form Freeza power) and then the complete Cell and Buu Saga, mostly piccolo and the Saiyans, i dont think the humans can concentrade enough ki to do it( I mean an attack that destroy the planet without hitting the core and create a chain reaction, but all the Z warriors humans could damage the core and destroy it), I think only Piccolo and the Saiyans can and have the ki to create such attack(a ki ball that release a explosion), The humans perhaps could too, only if they have reach Frieza power (his weakest form) or surpass that power they could, That is my opinion. (I believe Tien in the end of the manga probably reach Freeza power, or surpass it, but there is no proof)
Ki work diferent than nuke, but have a greater power than nuke, if ki have heat then why when Goku use it against Freeza in the water the water didnt boil? Ki has more power than heat, when is release, but is not a heat attack like Superman heat vission for example, it works diferent, ki is more mistical and destructive than mere heat. the spirit Bomb for example is a all powerful mistical power, is not radiation or heat.
I know Kid Buu has more power than Freeza, i never said otherwise, i said that ki can be form and controled in diferent ways, and a kamehameha is a beam that go straight and erode(disintegrate) that is diferent than the Kid buu attack (A SSJ will be able to destroy in similar way the earth, but his ki ball will release less power force than compare with the Kid Buu, but Goku SSJ 3 will have a equal than the casual attack from the Kid Buu, and A full Power SSJ3 will have a lot more)
i respect your statement.
but one thing,goku base form for you cant pulvorize earth?
the base form (raditz saga)can only destroy the planet if he destroy or hit the core?
In my opinion, yes, for me the Freeza saga introduce planet buster, before all of them can just by hitting the core of planets.
But my opinion is not a fact, if you have prove that Goku in the Beggining of DBZ can destroy the planet without hitting the core, and your prove is good, i can change my mind, or debate your opinion.
Last edited 01 Mar 2008 05:28 am by Kakarrot | | #158 01 Mar 2008 05:40 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,508 OFFLINE | But they refuse to understand that SSJ3 can do more than just planet buster... ---
“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | #159 01 Mar 2008 05:59 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 9Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 1,343 OFFLINE | From Freeza destroy a planet is easy
Cell, the power is greater
From Buu, Cell is an insect
Goku SSJ3 has energy that reach dimensions across the DB Universe and shake the planet Earth with 5,972,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons
or Six Sextillion Tons.
can do a lot lot lot more than destroy a planet. IMO ---
Last edited 01 Mar 2008 06:10 am by Kakarrot | | #160 01 Mar 2008 06:29 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 13Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,664 OFFLINE | Kakarrot wrote:
seed wrote:
Kakarrot wrote:
seed wrote:
Kakarrot wrote:
You are not using logic, Roshi Will problably will destroy the Earth Too, His blast will reach the core of the planet if he fire from the moon, but Vegeta blast will do it with ease, and desintegrate more . You see the beams are not bombs, they erode and create friction, the attacks that are like bombs are like the Kid Buu or Freeza dead Ball, with Ki they can create diferent attacks of any kind, but the Kamehame ha and the Galic Gun are straight beams, that erode anything in their path, they go straigth, what roshi did with all his ki, Vegeta can do many times over, The attack that have more ki will defeat the person with less Ki, Roshi will not affect Vegeta, Because Vegeta Ki is higher and that make him more durable, Vegeta wont need the Galic gun to Desintegrate Roshi, His power is far higher, The ki of Roshi is not enough to make him durable to even resit King Piccolo, The Earth and the moon are matter and do not use Ki to protect themself, because they are not a living creature that control Ki.
Goku and Vegeta SSJ have the power to destroy the earth without hitting the core, but to do that they have to create a ki ball that release a explosion, A kamehame ha, and a Galic Gun will pierce any planet and eventually destroy it, they can do anything with Ki. the kamehame ha will desintegrate more durable characters that have hire ki, Like Gohan SSJ2 to Cell(Goku SSJ1 only blow his head bbecause have less ki than Cell) the power is gigantic, but it works diferently than Death Ball From Freeza for example.
Next time, give me an argument, instead of a question and dont insult, that is a weak way to debate.
hitting the core cant pulvorize the planet.
oh ki doesn’t have heat?
ki own nuke
buu’s ki ball is different to freeza its far more powerfull than freeza.
as far as i know ki is bomb but its different to nuke
goku can minimize the explosion.
the more power the more can maximize the explosion (dbz).
also you mean ssj goku can bust planet but the base form cant?
then used your brain
I said even if Roshi hit the core he could destroy the planet(By reaching the core and create a change reaction), Goku normal form could too, but a SSj1 Goku could do it with a diferent attack( he dont need to hit the core, his attack has enough power),to do that, Goku will have to compress the ki in a ball attack like the kid buu did, in that respect i believe no Z Warrior could do that until they reach the power of the Freeza Saga (first form Freeza power) and then the complete Cell and Buu Saga, mostly piccolo and the Saiyans, i dont think the humans can concentrade enough ki to do it( I mean an attack that destroy the planet without hitting the core and create a chain reaction, but all the Z warriors humans could damage the core and destroy it), I think only Piccolo and the Saiyans can and have the ki to create such attack(a ki ball that release a explosion), The humans perhaps could too, only if they have reach Frieza power (his weakest form) or surpass that power they could, That is my opinion. (I believe Tien in the end of the manga probably reach Freeza power, or surpass it, but there is no proof)
Ki work diferent than nuke, but have a greater power than nuke, if ki have heat then why when Goku use it against Freeza in the water the water didnt boil? Ki has more power than heat, when is release, but is not a heat attack like Superman heat vission for example, it works diferent, ki is more mistical and destructive than mere heat. the spirit Bomb for example is a all powerful mistical power, is not radiation or heat.
I know Kid Buu has more power than Freeza, i never said otherwise, i said that ki can be form and controled in diferent ways, and a kamehameha is a beam that go straight and erode(disintegrate) that is diferent than the Kid buu attack (A SSJ will be able to destroy in similar way the earth, but his ki ball will release less power force than compare with the Kid Buu, but Goku SSJ 3 will have a equal than the casual attack from the Kid Buu, and A full Power SSJ3 will have a lot more)
i respect your statement.
but one thing,goku base form for you cant pulvorize earth?
the base form (raditz saga)can only destroy the planet if he destroy or hit the core?
In my opinion, yes, for me the Freeza saga introduce planet buster, before all of them can just by hitting the core of planets.
But my opinion is not a fact, if you have prove that Goku in the Beggining of DBZ can destroy the planet without hitting the core, and your prove is good, i can change my mind, or debate your opinion.
well in my opinion goku kamehameha can bust earth
without hitting the core
139 is equal to moon and moon has 10,000circumference
and earth has 40,000 circumperence
kamehameha 924 power = 66400 circumference.
if they destroy the core means the explosion is not their power its planet power.
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