| 30 Jun 2008 04:52 pm |
papamidnite420 Guest | thats y gohan got the mystic training and goku didnt cuz the ysaid gohan gave them the best chance to win......and super buu would pawn kid buu in a sec he’s the strongest buu by far. kid buu was his true form thats how he started out but super buu beats his ass everytime
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| 30 Jun 2008 09:31 pm |
omniblast Guest | werarwar wrote:
omniblast wrote:
Cell got beat up by Pikkon in DBZ not GT, it was right after he was killed by Gohan, and was mainly because he did not powerup because he did not expect pikkon to be so strong. Funny that everyone talks about how strong Mystic Gohan is yet he got his ass handed to him by Gotenks Aborbed Buu, So I guess gotenks absorded buu was as strong as a SSJ7. And Gohan absorbed buu must have been like a SSJ8 right? So how come gotenks absorbed buu did not kill goku when he kicked if he was the equivalent of 4 ssj levels above him. if he was that much stronger, he would have had a one hit kill on goku like Gohan did with the Cell Jrs. So I guess goku was either lying or he was just really dumb in DBGT, cause he flat out said Rildo was stronger than Majin Buu, there is no evidence in all of GT to show that Goku’s powerlevel decreased, and not being able to sustain SSJ3 does not count, this was not due to lack of powerlevel, he just couldn’t sustain SSJ3 with such a small body. He had to get use to a new body, also the reason why he couldn’t due instant transmission, which also is obviously not due to lack of powerlevel. And what is up with nobody trains in hell, I guess Cell and frieza just woke up one day know their new technique, yeah that makes a lot of sense. Gohan only had the most potential at that point in time, they did not know the power that could be unlocked by growing back their tail. If Mystic Gohan was stronger than SSJ4 goku, why didn’t the kais retrain gohan to be able to fight omega shenron, probably because omega shenron would have kicked mystic gohan’s ass into next tuesday. The kais even said omega shenron was the strongest opponent they had ever faced, including gohan absorbed buu that means.
broly kicked videl but she did not die but he was much stronger than her its about how much force you put into the blows
Ok, but Gotenks absorbed buu, was pissed because Goku hit him with a distructo disk and cut his tentacle thing off . He was trying to kill Goku and was hitting him at full power.
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| 30 Jun 2008 09:41 pm |
omniblast Guest | U R A FUCKING NOOB 4 READING THIS wrote:
Dude wtf Majuub even told babi he perposefully let him win that power struggle as he wasnt so rediculousely untrained he could be beat by his own ability lol, Babi was stronger than Goku ssj4 untill Gohan Goten and trunk’s gave him their power and Babi was 10 time’s his preiviouse strenth witch prove’s your theroy wrong as Gohan trunk’s and Goten wernt stronger than Vegeta alone nevermind ten of him and babi being amplified by blutz wave’s.
So babi’s power was nowere near were you estimate it to be mate, he might have been close to superbuu’s strenth tho (Golden Oozaru Vegeta/Babi Mr Buu/Grey Buu) because Mr Buu can match an SSJ3 and Grey Buu can pwn Mr Buu, so both could beat Vegeta and Babi pal Majuub let form 3 win is all, so he could beat him from within (but the blutz wave’s obviously made him alot stronger).
General Lock was one shot killed by Majuub dude end of he was fuck all to kid Buu
The post is still about Mystic Gohan and SSJ4 Goku, and Majuub is roughly equal to Super Buu, And SSJ4 Goku has a greater power difference with Majuub than Mystic Gohan does with superbuu. And Majuub was a good match with Form 3 Bebi Vegeta. But if Majuub thought he could have won, he would have just beat Bebi Vegeta without resorting to the tactics he did. He knew that Bebi Vegeta had a slight edge over him and that is why he let himself be eaten. Golden Ozaru Bebi Vegeta was much stronger than Super Buu. Actually he was stronger than any Buu, except for probably Vegitto Absorbed buu.
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| 02 Jul 2008 06:10 pm |
papamidnite420 Guest | imma use ur logic gohan = ssj2, mystic training = ssj3 without transforming which = the power of a ssj5-6 if transforming into a ssj.....which they said he couldn’t do for this reason which means if he changes him and ssj4 goku die, but otha than that he loses just cuz he cant change
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| 03 Jul 2008 02:36 am |
omniblast Guest | Actually Mystic Gohan is a lot stronger than a SSJ 3. But this forum is Mystic Gohan vs SSJ4, so maybe if Gohan could transform he would be able to win, and even then I am not sure, because a SSJ4 in GT would be like a SSJ6 in DBZ, the same reason that SSJ1 Goku is as strong as SSJ3. And that is in his kid form. I actually came to the conclusion that Goku did lose a lot of power turning into a kid. But it still is like this Adult Goku GT >>>> Kid Goku GT>>>>> Adult Goku DBZ. SO even though he is not as strong as Adult Goku GT he is much stronger than Adult Goku DBZ. My logic is this: Kid Goku was weaker in his SSJ3 form against Bebi Vegeta than Uub, when he was able to hit blow for with Uub in his base form when he was an Adult in GT. But Goku was fight with a person who was stronger than kid buu in his SSJ1 stage, and remember that rildo was quite a bit stronger than kid buu, because goku said that rildo became stronger than he originally had thought. Even with this and the fact that being on Rildo’s home planet gave him an advantage, goku was still able to hang in there for a long time. So Goku wins this battle, Gohan can’t transform so he can’t win, he may have tons of potential but his body can’t handle the intense power, on the other hand Goku’s body is capable of handling this type of power.
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| 03 Jul 2008 09:11 am |
werwer Guest | Darth Nihilus wrote:
This battle was pretty much over when it began. SSJ4 Goku is stronger than Mystic Gohan.
ur so ignorant and stop blocking all the threads since u dont know anything about dbz
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| 03 Jul 2008 12:45 pm |
18 days left. Splee? Rep: 74  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 27,760 OFFLINE | werwer wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
This battle was pretty much over when it began. SSJ4 Goku is stronger than Mystic Gohan.
ur so ignorant and stop blocking all the threads since u dont know anything about dbz
Hahaha
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| 04 Jul 2008 06:08 am |
Regular Rep: 11 Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 295 OFFLINE | It is the way of the ignorant one to use his little power to influance were word’s cannot
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| 04 Jul 2008 06:09 am |
Regular Rep: 14Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 228 OFFLINE | who would win?
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| 04 Jul 2008 06:30 am |
Regular Rep: 11Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 295 OFFLINE | Mystic Gohan Saiyan Hybrid’s are > Pure blood’s and Goku even state’s in the Cell Saga Gohan had a potential he could never dream of haveing, plus the fact Mystic envoked Gohan’s full potential that of a half breed Saiyan and Goku no matter how hard he train’s cannot surpass His son’s potential power as Goku’s potential will alway’s be less...you see what im saying?
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| 04 Jul 2008 07:13 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 14 Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,412 OFFLINE | So true man, Gohan even has the Creator’s backing on that one although douse that extend to GT i dunno
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| 04 Jul 2008 08:02 am |
Regular Rep: 11Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 295 OFFLINE | Nahh it dousent only Zverse bro, Akira only said that during the time of Z and had no real connection with GT were the creator’s obviously wanted for Goku to be supream.
It’s kinda like Katase from FFVII he said Seph is the strongest existence in VII pre Doc correct?, so it just dousent extend past that period due to the time lapse between the UO and DoC and the fact their different saga’s completely.
In DBZ Freiza was stated to be the strongest being in the Universe (Cooler Buu Brolly Cell Kid Buu all surpass him) and Katase he really diden’t have much to do with the creation of DoC so it’s not likely his statement can be held as cannon anymore you get me kid?
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| 04 Jul 2008 09:51 am |
asdasd Guest | no matter how u look at at mystic gohan is either on the same level as ssj4 or higher ...for example ....
super buu gotenks = ssj6,being equal to two ssj3’s
and mystic gohan is as strong as super buu gotenks...
super buu ssj3strong+mystic gohan ssj6 strong is equal to someone ssj9 strong meaning super vegitto is way above ssj9 strong meaning he is more powerfull than ssj4gogeta
or if we were to say super buu gotenks =ssj4strong,we all know super buu gotenks is way above ssj3 because u cant merge two people who are ssj3 strong and expect them to be still on the same level as ssj3 they should be higher...
so mystic gohan we all know mystic gohan is on the same level....
super buu ssj3 strong + mystic gohan ssj4 strong is equal to ssj7 strong
super buu gohan is ssj7 strong
and super vegitto is already stronger than super buu gohan meaning his way above ssj7 strong
ssj4goku+ssj4vegeta=ssj8 strong
omega shenron is above ssj4 so his like ssj5 strong or ssj6 strong
anyway u look at it super vegitto is more fpowerfull than GT gogeta
and mystic gohan is above ssj4 or on the same level never lower
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| 05 Jul 2008 03:45 pm |
omniblast Guest | Your logic is so flawed it isn’t even funny. SSJ levels do not work like that. Gohan during the cell games could have destroyed, goku, trunks vegita and piccolo all at the same time. Does that mean that he is as strong as a SSJ4? no! Just because Super Buu Gotenks could take out two SSJ3 doesn’t mean he was any where near the strength of a SSJ6. In dbz you can be 50% stronger than two opponents and still destroy them both at the same time. The jump between SSJ3 and SSJ6 if it existed would be exponential. You can’t just add SSJ levels together like you are doing because it doesn’t work that way. SuperBuu Gotenks absorbed is only at max about 5 times stronger than than a SSJ3, while the SSJ4 multiplier makes it about 20 times stronger than a SSJ3. That is why SSJ4 goku, could defeat an Ozaru Bebi Vegeta an opponent around 25-30 times stronger than kid buu, because he was 25-30 times stronger than General Rildo who was said to be stronger than kid buu. The same kid buu who had SSJ3 Goku at a stalemate. Omega Shenron is much stronger than any form of buu, hence why the Kais said he was the strongest opponent they had ever faced. Lastly Veggito was made with a stronger fusion, but he can’t make up the power difference between SSJ1 and SSJ4. Gogeta SSJ4 would need about 1 minute to defeat him.
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| 09 Jul 2008 10:32 am |
dbz man 32334 Guest | gt goku would own mystic gohan at a ssj4 gt ssj3 would own
gt ssj2 = mystic gohan
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| 09 Jul 2008 10:37 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 22 Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,952 OFFLINE | i say gohan would win
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| 09 Jul 2008 10:38 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 22Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,952 OFFLINE | wait i changed my mine goku supersaiyan 4
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| 09 Jul 2008 01:12 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 42 Joined: 02 Apr 2008 Posts: 1,895 OFFLINE | dbz man 32334 wrote:
gt goku would own mystic gohan at a ssj4 gt ssj3 would own
gt ssj2 = mystic gohan
Wrong moron.
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| 10 Jul 2008 10:06 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 14Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,412 OFFLINE | Mystic Gohan’s got this
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| 10 Jul 2008 09:43 pm |
omniblast Guest | Mystic Gohan at best is 4 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku from DBZ. SSJ4 Goku would be more than 20 times stronger than SSJ3 DBZ goku. I still continue to say that fact that General Rildo was stronger than Majin Buu is the key to compare these two. That puts SSJ1 Goku above Majin Buu level. That would put SSJ2 Goku GT at Super Buu Level and SSJ3 Goku GT more or less between Mystic Gohan and Gotenks Buu. So unless the SSJ multipliers don’t exist at all in GT, we can see that SSJ4 goku is quite a bit stronger than Mystic Gohan.
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