Mystic Gohan vs Goku Super Saiyan 4

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Majin Buu as in Kid buu who was weaker than Evil Buu that Gohan beat and everyone in GT was depowered SSJ2 Goku moved a mountain as SSJ2 in Z and than he struggles to left a building in SSJ4 so that feat and you’re assuming that Rildo is stronger than Majin Buu.

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Majin Buu as in Kid buu who was weaker than Evil Buu that Gohan beat and everyone in GT was depowered SSJ2 Goku moved a mountain as SSJ2 in Z and than he struggles to left a building in SSJ4 so that feat and you’re assuming that Rildo is stronger than Majin Buu. I know that Majin Buu is weaker than Super Buu, but he is not that much weaker, Super Buu is only around 1.5 times stronger than Kid Buu at max. I am not assuming anything about General Rildo, Goku is the one that says it, and since he is the only one that has fought both kid buu and rildo, and seems to be one of the best in the series at determining powerlevels and hidden power, even better than piccolo as shown in the cell games. First Goku said Rildo was stronger than kid buu. later while fighting Rildo he said that rildo was stronger than he expected, meaning that he was quite a bit stronger than kid buu. So Goku is atleast 30 times stronger than Kid buu as a SSJ4 already stated, based on Bebi Vegeta transformation estimates. There are only two ways to link powerlevels between the two series, the statement made about Rildo and Majin buu, and by assuming that Majuub is equal to or greater than super buu. I prefer the one with more concrete evidence. And don’t use strength references, we all know that if one thing is certain, DBZ, DBGT are very inconsistent when it comes to physical strength feats. So SSJ4 Goku is 30 times stronger than majin buu, making him also about 30 times stronger than his DBZ SSJ3 form. Mystic Gohan is also stronger than SSJ3 Goku, but not that much. 5-6 times max. So you have a SSJ4 Goku who is probably close to 5-6 times stronger than Mystic Gohan based on the only linking evidence between the series. Goku’s comparison is the only evidence we have on the subject, and why would you not take Goku’s word on it????

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Mystic Gohan pwns

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Gohan Loses, and he loses real bad,hopeful his dad will show him some mercy.

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Majuub equaled to Majinbuu? Proof? Also show when Goku states that Rildo is stronger and yes everyone in GT same depowered.

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DBGT Episode 19, just after Rildo arrives, goku states that he is stronger than Majin Buu. http://gt.watchdragonball.net/episode_19.html start it with the timer around 17:20. Then at 1:45 watch as General Rildo Powers up, Goku says, Not, good thats more than he expected. Saying that he is stronger than what he originally expected, which was already stronger than majin buu. This should be enough proof.

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As for the Majuub equal to superbuu, Like I said this one is less sure. What we do know is that Superbuu = Kid Buu + Fat Buu. Uub is the reincarnation of kid buu. Goku’s goal was to make Uub as strong as kid buu to be able fight him again. After their ten years of training, goku said uub had far exceeded his expectations, meaing that he had far surpassed kid buu, which makes sense seeing as how he one shots rildo who has already stated to be above kid buu. So you have the same Mr. Buu added onto a beeing who his much stronger than kid buu. YOu will then have a being stronger than Super Buu. Seeing as how much stronger Uub is than kid buu. Majuub would be anywhere from 4-5 times stronger than superbuu, most likely stronger than Buu Gotenks absorbed. This is easily determined by looking at the following. Metal Rildo is about 2 times majin buu power = ssj1 Goku. Form 1 Bebi Vegeta is about 1.5 times SSJ3 Kid Goku Power, seeing as he took goku’s punch easily. So that means that Form 1 Bebi Vegeta is somewhere close to 10-15 times Majin Buu’s power, taking into account Goku’s transformation from ssj1 to SSJ2, and SSJ2 to SSJ3. Then Bebi Vegeta Transforms 2 more times so Form 3 bebi Vegeta is most likely 20-30 times stronger than Majin Buu, Majuub is weaker than this Bebi Vegeta but not by that much. Gotenks Buu is no where near 20-30 times stronger than Majin Buu, probably 6 times stronger Max. So you can do the math. Even if you think I am exagerating my numbers in my power increases, even if you cut them in half. Majuub would still be about 1.5 times the power of Gotenks absorbed buu.

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I guess nobody wants to argue with my proofs. you know what that means. I AM THE SMARTEST MAN A LIVE!!!!

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lol

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lol

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no-one wants to argue cause there is nothing to argue about. besides your posts are to long and i cant be bothered about them but it goes along the lines of " i am a goku fan boy!?"

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The Daizenshu are not “non-canon” because they were supervised by Toriyama, and some parts were even written by him. In the preface of each books he even says how he likes them.

A minority of fans started nitpicking about Power levels just because the Daizenshû contradicted their own fan-made power level lists. Also, early mistranslations of these PL lists from the Daizenshû had widely circulated in forums, etc, and when some fans started to know what were the real numbers, correctly translated, they just didn’t accept that what they believed previously was shattered, so they started hate campains against the Daizenshu.

Fan wikis shouldn’t be trusted for these kind of emotional things.
Because the truth is, the Power Levels from the Daizenshû are perfectly coherent with the story. Of course, there is always one or two mistakes (as there are in the original manga) but it doesn’t change the final result. Some fans, out of spite, will always claim that just because of a few (debatable) mistakes, everything in these books is to be discarted. Of course, some things ARE debatable, as always. But not everything. Fans are always extreme in their reactions (don’t forget that “fan” comes from “fanatic”.

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Uub had nothing on Kid Buu and could barely break the lookout witch correct me if im wrong Super Buu minced in about 10 seconds,

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About that Daizenshuu, it’s only considered canon by the fans. They might have been supervised by AT, but they were not created by him. He had some supervision over GT, but no real control.

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ssj4 goku would own mystic gohan make it a fair fight how about mystic gohan vs janemba or mystic gohan vs someone around his power level and asdasd your a retard you dont count sayain levels that way.listen to omniblast he is the smartest one here except me he knows a good bunch of dbz and gt his answers are right.

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There’s really no one around his power level, besides possibly Gotenks at SSJ3 anyway. Other than that, any other fused character would put hurting on Gohan, seriously. Gohan might be able to win, but at a very slim chance. SSJ4 is the most power version of the SSJ, not matter how watered down it may be.

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LOL...papamidnite, its interesting stuff, but where did u get this info? just curious coz I dont remember it. i vote for SSj4 i watched very few GT but I remember Goku beating Freiza N Cell EASILY on his base form and they claimed to be much stronger than they were before. SSJ4 should be the strongest form. I heard somebody saying here too that Broly has unlimited energy and his bracelets, necklace and stuff keeps his power from going out of control is that true?

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lol wanker SSJ1 gotenks was stronger than ssj3Goku ssj3Gotenks would destory ssj4 Goku.

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That is pretty funny, thinking that Gotenks would be stronger than SSJ4 Goku. SSJ3 Gotenks was just barely above Super Buu. Lets just say for argument sake that Super Buu is at best 2-3 times stronger than Kid Buu, SSJ4 Goku is still at the very very least 40 times stronger than kid buu, it is probably closer to 50-60 times stronger, I have already shown this through the Rildo battle. This would put goku somewhere around 15 times 15-20 times stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks, at least, and about 10 times stronger than Mystic Gohan. You just come in and make a blank statement with out giving any proof. The Rildo battle as I said before is the only way to compare power levels between the two series, and if you don’t believe Goku that Rildo was stronger than Majin Buu, then we should be having this conversation, because if you don’t believe Goku just because he was GT, that means you are biased against DBGT, and we all know that Biased opinions are not worth anything.

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Kid Goku was alot weaker than DBZ SSJ3 Goku as he could not beat General Lock and only wen’t SSJ to fight him...I belive what Trunks said was true Goku gave him WAY to much credit as Majuub corrected his mistake in one blast