| 08 Apr 2008 07:39 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 12  Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,664 OFFLINE | Kyle Knight wrote:
Not alway’s just it’s hard to say what is valid and what is not lol Omniblast was saying how thing’s work throughout Z Gt yet GT hasnt alway’s been to reliable
what do you think gt is not a sequell which is toie introduced the new tranformation ssj4 then he is equal to ssj2?wow..ssj4 is equal to ssj2.
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| 08 Apr 2008 07:53 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17 Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,614 OFFLINE | I think SSJ4 isnt even the same as SSJ1,2,3 it’s more like a Super Saiyan Oozaru to me
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| 08 Apr 2008 08:00 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 12Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,664 OFFLINE | Kyle Knight wrote:
I think SSJ4 isnt even the same as SSJ1,2,3 it’s more like a Super Saiyan Oozaru to me
goku base form says he is stronger the ever.
because he can only used 10x kkamehameha?
and in dbz is more powerfull than that but it never shown.
lol ssj4 is the same as ssj forms that’s why they called ssj4 because ssj4 is the next step of ssj3.
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| 08 Apr 2008 08:06 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,614 OFFLINE | No SSJ can be attained by rage pain of loss and so forth forced evolution, SSJ4 you need your tail to go Oozaru then gain control to become SSJ4 with much training involved so basicaly a Super Saiyan Oozaru.
And yes 10 fold Kamehameha is impressive and i agree SSJ4 was stronger than SSJ3 lol, but so was Mystic Gohan
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| 08 Apr 2008 08:14 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 12Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,664 OFFLINE | Kyle Knight wrote:
No SSJ can be attained by rage pain of loss and so forth forced evolution, SSJ4 you need your tail to go Oozaru then gain control to become SSJ4 with much training involved so basicaly a Super Saiyan Oozaru.
And yes 10 fold Kamehameha is impressive and i agree SSJ4 was stronger than SSJ3 lol, but so was Mystic Gohan
ssj4 is the combination of monkey and ssj,and it shown here in the saga that monkey can turn ssj.
i don’t know if that is impressive because in the dbz era goku can multiply his kamehameha.
the mystic gohan is weak compaired to the gt because in gt goku shown the ssj4 and you know that every year he get stronger,BUT if mystic gohan can transform into it maybe he is equal to ssj3.
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| 08 Apr 2008 10:12 am |
guest91 Guest | Its clear that ssj4 is stronger since mystic gohan was not that mutch stronger then ssj3. Think about it gohan in mystic form was beat quickly by buu with ssj3 fuzed goten and trunks now mystic is stronger then ssj3 then why is it when buu absourbed gohan to become his strongest form a ssj2 goku and vagita held out forever even was able to take him out and im not talking about fuzed goku and vagita either.
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| 08 Apr 2008 10:15 am |
ALL HAIL 98SUPRA Rep: 57 Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 11,931 OFFLINE | SSJ4 pwns, this is not fair
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| 08 Apr 2008 10:16 am |
Regular Rep: 14Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 267 OFFLINE | Mystic Gohan wins because of the fact that SSJ4 Goku never existed.
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| 08 Apr 2008 10:19 am |
ALL HAIL 98SUPRA Rep: 57Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 11,931 OFFLINE | Ky wrote:
Mystic Gohan wins because of the fact that SSJ4 Goku never existed.
WHAT
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| 08 Apr 2008 10:25 am |
Regular Rep: 14Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 267 OFFLINE | Yes. You DO realize that Dragon Ball GT was NOT written by Akira Toriyama (the creator), right? And that includes SSJ4? It was all basically a filler series. Not part of the real Dragon Ball storyline.
That’s why I never take into consideration characters like Omega Shenron, SSJ4 whatever, Brolly and so on. They never existed. Plus they’re inconsistent as hell.
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| 08 Apr 2008 10:27 am |
ALL HAIL 98SUPRA Rep: 57Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 11,931 OFFLINE | Broly in in DBZ
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| 08 Apr 2008 10:27 am |
guest91 Guest | Ky wrote:
Yes. You DO realize that Dragon Ball GT was NOT written by Akira Toriyama (the creator), right? And that includes SSJ4? It was all basically a filler series. Not part of the real Dragon Ball storyline.
That’s why I never take into consideration characters like Omega Shenron, SSJ4 whatever, Brolly and so on. They never existed. Plus they’re inconsistent as hell.
yeah but that is not what this form is about its about ssj4 gt goku vs Dbz mistic gohan its just like comparing 2 characters in different cartoons
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| 08 Apr 2008 10:29 am |
Regular Rep: 14Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 267 OFFLINE | No, he isn’t. All of the movies, except the one with Bardock are not a part of the Dragon Ball Z storyline. So, Cooler, Brolly, Jamemba and all them are crap. Never written by the original creator.
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| 08 Apr 2008 10:29 am |
ALL HAIL 98SUPRA Rep: 57Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 11,931 OFFLINE | Akira’s nephew did GT, with his permition.
Dnt belive me, Google it
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| 08 Apr 2008 10:35 am |
guest91 Guest | Ky wrote:
No, he isn’t. All of the movies, except the one with Bardock are not a part of the Dragon Ball Z storyline. So, Cooler, Brolly, Jamemba and all them are crap. Never written by the original creator.
well if were going to say that then all most every version of superman exp the one in the 30’s cannot be used in debated b/c its not the original or written by original creator that means no sup prime, pre crises, post and so on
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| 08 Apr 2008 10:38 am |
Regular Rep: 14Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 267 OFFLINE | Doesn’t matter. It’s not a part of the official DB storyline. I go by the original content, the manga.
And link source where it says his nephew took over.
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| 08 Apr 2008 10:39 am |
ALL HAIL 98SUPRA Rep: 57Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 11,931 OFFLINE | Ky wrote:
No, he isn’t. All of the movies, except the one with Bardock are not a part of the Dragon Ball Z storyline. So, Cooler, Brolly, Jamemba and all them are crap. Never written by the original creator.
Who gives, It has the title DBZ so shuv it
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| 08 Apr 2008 10:50 am |
Regular Rep: 14Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 267 OFFLINE | Okay, that’s fine. If somebody created a fanfic where a character was SSJ 100, guess you’d accept that, too. It has the title of DBZ, after all, right?
In all honesty, if it’s DBZ VS GT/movie character, I’m going to root for the original works over the other. If it’s GT/movie over someone else (say, Naruto), then obviously I’d choose GT.
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| 08 Apr 2008 10:51 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 29 Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,873 OFFLINE | Supposedly movies are not canonical.
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| 08 Apr 2008 11:44 am |
omniblast Guest | You still need to prove to me that Mystic Gohan was 10 times stronger than form 3 Bebi, if you can’t that means that SSJ4 Goku is stronger, since he was able to beat him. Not to add that like I said before. The goku who fought omega shenron was stronger than the one who fought against Bebi. Mystic Gohan at his best is only a couple times stronger than Bebi Form three who is roughly equal to super Buu. Goku SSJ4 is 10 times stronger than Bebi or super Buu. Another Proof is that Goku stated that Rildo was stronger than Majin Buu. Even if Trunks said he was giving him too much credit, no one in DBZ had a better talent of judging power than Goku did. I believe Goku over trunks anyday. So if Rildo who Goku could defeat in SSJ1 was stronger, or atleast as strong as Majin Buu, Mystic Gohan at his best was about 5 times as strong as Majin Buu. On the other hand SSJ1 GT Goku was already stronger than Majin Buu, lets say by 1.3 times. His SSJ4 Power Up multiplied his power by atleast 10-15 times judging on the Bebi fight. So now he is between 13-20 times stronger than majin buu. So about 2.5-4 times stronger than Mystic Gohan. This is my third proof I have given that SSJ4 Goku is stronger than Mystic Gohan, these are facts. Live wit it.
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